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dmort
13:59:30 Sun
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Bering Sea Gold[TV Show]

I have watched some episodes recently and I wonder why they are dredging under the ice ? Seems dangerous.Just wait until the ice melts.

  
leonard
22:28:03 Sun
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I was waiting for some of the real miners to answer your question. Winter in Nome doesn't give you a lot of options of things to do other than drink. Also, the weather is so variable in the summer causing a lot of downtime in town. In the winter the corditions are more constant even if they are crappy.

I'm sure you will probably get some far better answers than that.
Leonard

  
dmort
01:18:58 Mon
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Thanks

  
Fleng
18:45:15 Mon
Dec 2 2013

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Underwater sluice

The big surprise on that show is about the Clark outfit using the underwater sluice. It seems like it is pretty touchy and needs to be perfectly level. It also is producing better than other systems. I was watching them do a cleanout and thought that it looked prone to losing concentrate.

  
leonard
21:51:47 Mon
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Looks a lot like a modified bazooka. No matter how good it works, I don't think I could deal with it's inventor/owner.
Leonard

  
MadJack
17:46:10 Tue
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Now come on Leonard, that thing is a brand new invention that can get gold off the bottom without a diver and without even running!
The inventor is so frickin smart he outshines any prospector EVER! I'm just blown away with his well deserved genius, talent, and EGO!
What do NOME-ers know about dredging-gold anyway?


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peluk
01:10:36 Wed
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Constant calm, dependable, weather can be found for long stretches in the winter here in Nome.Being able to see under water or down on the bottom is of prime importance.Winter dredging offers that opportunity.

Last Summer was a loser for many and some went belly up due to weather primarily.

  
dickb
16:46:44 Wed
Dec 4 2013

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Sometimes you have to think outside of the box. To bad the ones that thought of it first don't get credit for it.
Crashing waves and high winds don't affect the diving in winter like they do in summer and you get a second season that is longer than 90 days. Plus, the water temp is not that much colder than diving in the summer.
Dickb
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LipCa
17:17:10 Wed
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Well, it looks like most are finding little if any gold for their efforts....

  
growler
23:51:46 Wed
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The first ice diver I saw was here, He did quite a spread on his efforts, tuning and adjusting as he went. I remember there was a film crew at some point. Tried to search. No find. jim

  
peluk
05:17:38 Thu
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Growler,here's the other side of the coin.The dredger you spoke of has probably been the target of mild rebuke for having passed on so much information.Where previously it had been a local undertaking,now it is no more.Nobody could have imagined how this year round dredging could have caught on as it did.
It is now more expensive due to regulations,insurance,moorage fees just to name a few of the adjustments.As I look at all the changes with an open mind,I can see they had to happen....even the addition of a "dredge cop". As members of the community affected at least in part,we brought our comments to the city and state
before changes came about.They dealt with us evenhandedly just as the founding fathers would have wished but it could no longer be like the old days.I think it would be safe to say that the addition of a lawman eliminated the need for gunfire and a lot of violence.There are those who would dredge right on top of others and there are those that would dredge on another's claims whenever the opportunity arose.

Now it's just a matter of endurance in the face of inclement weather,expensive food, fuel and housing and increased competition for a resource. Believe me if I said there are dredges everywhere in Nome,it wouldn't be too far from the truth.Sometimes as I drive around town and down around the port and view the dredges,I'm wondering if they don't mate.at night.:gonetoofar:

  
dickb
16:28:20 Thu
Dec 5 2013

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Still have to wonder though if more than a few are making any money at it. The show is a joke, but it really costs a lot to play and I haven't seen any claim to be getting rich doing it. Just lots of TV drama!

As far as the Flaming that went on, we lost a lot of good guys because of it. Bad for the forum.
JMHO
Dickb

  
dmort
15:36:20 Fri
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I too am not impressed with the show,except the extreme danger of working under ice.Seems like you would get a better return on investment working dry land and or using a metal detector on the beaches.

  
peluk
16:23:05 Fri
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A metal detector on the beaches is not likely to bring a return.As long as I've been working the beach,I only found one nugget which was about 1/4" in any direction.The beach gold is all small and generally fine and flour gold.A metal detector will work inland and I have seen the results.You just have to make a connection whereby you can metal detect with the permission of the owner.

Working "dry" land can be beach or inland.It takes a while to get on track inland unless you have a friend who knows his/her deposit and has made an agreement with you.
The cost of diesel fuel is $6+ so you have to know what you are doing if you are moving a lot of ground with equipment.

Dickb,I have seen time and time again where fortunes have been lost by people who will not or cannot afford to research ocean dredging before getting into it.I've heard many times from dredgers that 3 years of hit and miss is required before a person can be successful.Weather will wipe out many but the experienced can even endure that feature by having a backup job or one team member providing seed money from a backup job.
It seems to me investing in a dredge and having a crew run it is a good move.Assuming the initial purchase price is something he can absorb,a good crew can make it pay for itself in time.I've seen that happen a few times with people I know.

  
dickb
19:29:11 Fri
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Hi peluk:

I agree with you. I just don't think that most of the folks who come to Nome have a clue as to what their doing.

Most would be just as well off staying at home and burning their dollars to keep warm.

Like you say some come and look at it like a business. do the proper research and have sufficient funds to get over the learning curve, Too many just come to make their fortune and leave broke.

I think the backhoe and barge are the best operation shown so far, but a 10 and a hardworking crew certainly can do well if mother nature and the crew cooperate. You got to stay at it when the weather allows. Mining is hard work no matter which way you do it.

Dickb

  

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