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Walt_Anchorage
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The makers of Gold Rush on the Discovery Channel asked me to mention this on my radio show and I thought someone on this forum may be interested.

The producers are looking to cast gold miners in a TV show. If you have 2 years previous mining experience, Or have at least 2 years employment operating heavy equipment, Or are a heavy equipment mechanic then email the producers at miners@raw.co.uk. Email your name, contact info, home state, work and gold experience, a recent photo, and why you would be an asset to a gold mining crew.



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dickb
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I think I'll pass on that job offer! :devil:

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geowizard
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It's too bad that there is such "missed opportunity" in the Gold Rush series. The series is actually becoming a "spoof" on mining that portrays miners as idiots.

That's very sad in my opinion. :confused:

Take any of the recent episodes for example. The Dakota Boys discovered "five times" as much gold on Cahoon Pass. They disassembled and lifted two excavators and a wash plant up to the pass by helicopter. Assembled the machines and mined for one week. Then took the cons back down to Dakota Fred for processing. Ran the cons and found NO gold at all.

Todd et al moved a million dollars worth of mining equipment to "the jungles of Guyana". To mine a dump! then the mine owner demands production "or else"!

:confused:

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Walt_Anchorage
22:25:39 Thu
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Gold Rush is not a documentary. It's simply entertainment in a TV show. The miners are amateur actors. Anyone who thinks "reality TV" is real is in for a rude awakening.

Obviously, as you can quote what happened in the last episode, the producers achieved their goal. They got you and a lot of other people to watch the show. It's all about ratings which equate to the price of the ads that bring in the money.

On the other hand I'm positive Duck Dynasty is totally real...



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JOE_S_INDY
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Hey Walt!

Not to shoot the messenger - but -

If they want actors why would they ask miners to become actors?

Probably because they can become more "Fiscally Secure" by paying minimal salaries to non-actors instead of Screen Actors Guild (SAG) members.

It seems there are more and more of these speculation pilots being made - trying to ride in on the shirt tails of the earlier "reality soap operas". Some make it and some are never heard from again.

Walt, we all know you and certainly understand that you are only passing along information that some here might wish to use. Good for you, sir!

Joe







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geowizard
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That's another point.

Why do they need Anglo Americans? Why aren't minority groups represented proportionately?

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LipCa
03:22:06 Fri
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I guess I missed it... where did they ask for Anglo Americans only?

  
geowizard
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So far, they all look like me.

You'd think they could find at least one red-headed Irishman. :confused:

Ethnic diversity is important in television production including commercials. If members of only one group are portrayed as miners, then other groups are not represented as having an equal opportunity to share in what should be the universal theme of getting rich quick mining for gold.

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Walt_Anchorage
21:56:50 Fri
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Diversity? How come thereís not more diversity here? Is this the "white guy" gold forum? Should there be special message that we welcome African descendants or gay and lesbian miners? Everyone that shares our interest is welcome on this forum just as everyone has an equal chance to be on the show.

I don't believe anyone is excluding minorities from Gold Rush. Percentage wise there just aren't that many interested in mining. If you know some you could suggest they apply to be on the show.

And Chuck, you canít tell me that you have never known miners that made bad decisions and did stupid stuff. Öbut then they were not on TV letting the world know that miners can be idiots.



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azkid
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I would do it but na I know a few things about mining maybe only 2 or 3 but that's 2 or 3 more than them hahahaah



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Bonaro
21:18:03 Sat
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Walt nailed it on all sides in his first post.
This is not a dramatic show about gold mining
It is a gold mining themed show about drama

Most importantly it is entertainment. If you made a accurate show about actual mining it would be intensely boring

The negative attitudes about the gold shows are also because of who we are. As miners we see the mistakes and folly and it makes us cringe and curse because any of us could easily do so much better. For the same reason, actually loggers probably cant stand to watch Ax Men.

Sit back, open a cold one and enjoy the show :confused::confused:



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geowizard
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Bonaro,

Welcome to the forum! :welcome:

I pointed out the fact several years ago the Gold Rush Alaska series was all about drama.

So, what's new?

I am addressing the issue of diversity in radio and television. I'm also addressing the issue of "WHY" do all of these miners look like me.:confused:

Walt, don't give me the... "maybe they don't want to be miners" stuff.

If you look around and "wake up" there's an issue with the participation of other ethnic groups in mining.

I was curious about Radio and Television and checked the eeoc.gov website. American Indians/Alaska Natives represent 5 percent of the US population and they hold 0 .1 percent of the jobs in Radio and Television. If you consider that we are all equal and have equal opportunity, then WHY are certain groups under-represented?

The Canadian Government has began an initiative to seek out talent in those groups that are under-represented and provide opportunity for "all" individuals regardless of ethnicity to work in Radio and Television as well as other industries.

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Rod_Seiad
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It's pretty simple.

Can an actor be a miner? No.

Can a miner be an actor? Yes.

Which way is up......which way is down?

I can still be a true miner in heart and mind, but the body is unwilling. I'd be a very good actor.

Miners are in an absolute need of Earthly rewards. Actors seek fame.

So I believe the reality TV producers are hoping to improve their incomes by purchasing miners to salvage their "Charlie Chaplin Mines Alaska" style of entertainment.

Without the drama paystreak running through each telecast, the show would not go on.


  
Walt_Anchorage
02:31:03 Tue
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Chuck,
In this case you donít know what you are talking about. I have been in radio for 50 years I can tell you the FCC devastated radio in the late 70s and early 80s when they pushed minority ownership. They added licenses to the spectrum for minorities and provided them tax incentives and special assessment when applying for licenses to radio and TV stations.
The Supreme Court eventually ruled it illegal to give minorities preference but the damage had been done. With the additional stations that were given to minorities the revenue from advertising was divided so thin that the new stations as well as many existing stations were in financial trouble. To fix the problem they created the FCC changed the rules to allow one owner to have six licenses in a market. With six stations under the same roof an owner could cut the costs and the number of employees. They only needed one receptionist, one copy writer, one engineer, one sales team, etc. The mom and pop outfits couldnít compete with the big radio group and were forced to sell.
So now we have less diversity in radio. Most markets have three or four companies controlling all the content on the radio. To recover their investment the corporations that bought up the stations found that they could save money with automation. They donít need all those people that want weekends and holidays off and expect a pay raise every year. So now there are a lot fewer of us in the business and we are making a lot less money. So screw your diversity!



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geowizard
03:08:59 Tue
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Walt,

So, now, a few white guys own the networks and laid off a lot of people. Because of automation people are paid less and screw my diversity. :confused:

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geowizard
14:37:51 Tue
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One of the greatest radio personalities was probably Wolfman Jack. Radio station XERB could be heard anywhere in the US from Los Angeles to New York.

Another was Casey Kasem.

In my opinion, Walt has a radio voice that is up there with the greatest.

Unfortunately, radio has run its course. In the 1960's home entertainment systems included record players, and reel to reel tape. Reel to reel tape became portable with the Sony Walkman. Eight track tape players entered the automotive market. You could take your tunes with you and play them at your leisure. No commercials.

FM radio was originally, non-commercial. Now, FM is practically continuous commercial ads.

Satellite radio is becoming increasingly popular. That has a lot to do with freedom from FCC regulation.

In Alaska, many of the bush AM/FM stations (APRN) are subsidized and/or completely funded by membership contributions, underwriters, state and federal grants:

http://www.alaskapublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Alaska-Public-Media-2012-Annual-Report.pdf

National Public Radio dominates much of the broadcasting. Bush radio is still used by many residents for relaying messages to the bush.

Television exists in the bush only through satellite systems. Although the systems are paid-subscriber based, there is increasing commercialization of the satellite networks.

DRAMA is the only draw that brings viewers to television. Education and Entertainment are secondary. You can get the news from the internet, but it seems to me that there isn't much interest in the latest news. Much of the "NEWS" is propaganda and I think many listeners and viewers soon recognize propaganda when they hear it or see it.

So, it's all about Drama. :smile:

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Rod_Seiad
17:08:15 Tue
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Yes and in addition to the drama.

Are the TV producers quietly acquiring gold claims? Yes of course.

Trade imaginary drama combined with excellent business decisions for real gold in the ground. It's a natural. Plus, we've witnessed a logistical massing of sponsored equipment, miners and investors.

Help wanted.

I tend to be curious about the drama of gold and how it stirs the minds of people who are focused upon wealth accumulation. Which came first the gold or the drama?

  
hoppingforpay
17:59:36 Tue
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They are asking for a minimum 2 years experience...

4 years experience would be asking for a boss...

The plan must be to keep it a comedy that isn't that funny.

The whole Cahoon thing is a joke. The kid finds gold with a pan and then based on this discovery they heli in excavators and find no gold? Then expert miner Fred sees red mountain and grey mountain and scoots equipment to red mountain side and walla! gold!

Does Cahoon creek have history? I haven"t looked.

Faked discovery and yet another waste of money from team Fred!


  
hoppingforpay
00:35:23 Wed
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Fred team needs to move downstream.

Workings: The lower 0.5 miles of Cahoon Creek were extensively mined by the Cahoon Creek Mining Company from 1908 to 1913 (Hoekzema and others, 1986). A little placer mining was done at the head of Cahoon Creek in the early days of the camp, but apparently with little success (Eakin, 1918 and 1919).
Age: Quaternary.

  
Walt_Anchorage
17:42:46 Wed
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I agree with following the pay streak down stream. I thought the waterfall dig was a mistake to begin with. Turbulence at the base of a waterfall will usually wash gold out of the hole. They found gold downstream from the waterfall so why wouldnít they continue on down? Basic mining 101: follow the pay till it runs out.



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Rod_Seiad
17:45:23 Wed
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Ain't this the truth.

"Faked discovery and yet another waste of money from team Fred!"

You can call me crazy but.......

I swear I have seen the same placer gold being weighed again and again. Recycled placer. The drama of cleaning and weighing to fit the script is getting old. Discovery TV ain't about mining, it's more about stimulating the viewer's dreams. And that could be the best part.

  
Walt_Anchorage
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I was just thinking about how easy it is to criticize others for their mistakes, like the miners on the Gold Rush TV show. But at least they are out there doing it and Iím not. I have been a weekend/vacation miner for over 30 years. I have had the honor to know, spend time with and learn from some real miners. I have prospected in Nome, on the Yukon and through much of Alaska over the years but I havenít had the courage to give up a regular paycheck. I get paid for playing music, telling jokes on the radio and basically goofing off. Thatís hard to give up in exchange for the hard work and uncertainty of mining. To you full time miners who take the finical risks and fight mom nature to pull that yellow metal out of the ground I envy you. Öbut not quite enough to give up my comfy lifestyle.



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hoppingforpay
19:34:28 Thu
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Walt,

I think there new find is on a different creek. What I was pointing out was the young guy went up to the new creek and found some color but they didn't elaborate on how much ground the color came from (important). On this one hole prospect according to the show they heli in 1 and then 2 excavators, and I imagine, a untested wash plant. This test should have been done in exactly the same spot as where the the test pan was taken. If so the bigger bulk test should have recovered gold because the test pan said it was there.

So they either dug a different hole than where they took the test pan or the kid salted his pan because he "knew it was there" just like they knew there"could be a pot full a gold" under the "water fall" that if a waterfall, has not acted as one for eons due to a zillion feet of gravel.

As you can see in the show they seem to be near the headwaters of Cahoon Creek where previous miners did not do well.Pay attention to them! They're usually are right!

I can see them sitting around, aware of the gold mine that is at the mouth of Cahoon and saying the gold had to get there from upstream , there must be nuggets upstream closer to the "source". Don't risk big money on what you think! Prove it.

The report that I found in say..10 seconds,says it's shallow ground with bare bedrock....metal detector come to mind. Suction dredge comes to mind. They came up with excavator! Let's fly an excavator in 2000 lbs at a time, at I presume, 2000 bucks an hour, because it is too hard to dig a hole by hand. It is shallow bedrock in this stretch where the real miners couldn't come up with much. AND it's not that easy to mine shallow ground with equipment because you will tear up a large area really quick requiring that the wash plant and settling pond need to move all the time.

My advice was to go where the other operation was downstream (not the waterfall property) because this would be a better bet because economical gold was found there.Gold is where you find it not where you think it is! Did they leave anything, I don't know. Is it claimed by someone else, probably.

What the Fred team and Todd team did wrong was not prove their ground first. CHEAPLY.

It is kind of good they showed this because there are guys who go at mining the same way. They had a construction business or a rental yard that put some money in their pocket and they go out and live their dream and BLOW IT! Learn to prospect, buy a pan and find out what it is like.It's not easy no matter what equipment you got.

On topic the topic of employment what a deal! No waiting tables while learning to act. Only need 2 years experience at mining/mechanic. Money for nothing chicks for free or

...must have thick skin...willing to accept ridicule!


  
dmort
17:58:45 Sat
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Fred had them move downstream to work the red dirt which he feels is the source of gold in Cahoon.

  
hoppingforpay
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dmort,

Correct, I said that.

In my post above the last one.

How they filmed it does not make sense to me.

This particular team is chasing hope.

They sent the cart (excavator) before the horse (gold find)

But they showed a "gold find" that disappeared when they brought in the cart.

It's confusing because it's sort of real and a TV show.

I was predicting no decent gold in the red stuff too (in reality)

Just saying, since the bedrock is shallow that an overall grade could have been done with lots of small holes dug with hand tools.

Getting into quantities of gold while simultaneously creating a mining show is becoming difficult without Tony!

  
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Which Tony?

Todd''s Tony or Parker's Tony?



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geowizard
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Rod_Seiad
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Good one, Hoppingforpay,

"It's confusing because it's sort of real and a TV show."

I guess that enables each of us to be entertained subjectively. Just remember it's TV.





  
hoppingforpay
01:18:03 Tue
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Gold mining is a high risk game and especially so if one doesn't do all he can to lower the risk. The guys that skip all the "recreational" types of prospecting don't have the fear that it might not be there. They think the tool will make up for it (big hole more gold). The true make or break is the ground. 1000 oz patches of economical ground is very rare, in most cases you'll have to buy that ground from someone who has been around awhile.And I wouldn't take their word on it.

I was thinking the Tony from Dawson. The inner circle of gold mining Dawsonites know where the gold is. They just be giving a little away to watch...

  
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