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kringle_mining
15:59:33 Thu
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Bidders Remorse? High Bid Going to Coty for $800

Doubtful about the remores heh heh

Here are pictures of a recently Auction purchased portion of a wash plant below. It however did not come with asembly and operating instructions. We were wondering if any miner out there in google land has worked with this set up before or knows the company that makes/markets it.

Hello Alan Coty



Picture of ladder, deck (front)



Sprocket/tension assembly
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kringle_mining
16:06:59 Thu
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Alan will be on the forum to ask or answer any questions.






This view is from on top of the gangway
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MarshallAk
18:11:22 Fri
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I don't know anything about that machine, but I'd hazard a guess and say it's worth WAAAAAAAAYYYYY more than $800. Buyer got a bargain, IMO. If it was me, I'd put wheels and a trailer hitch on it...

Marshall

  
charlene91
19:19:11 Fri
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ALLEN I SAW SOMETHING LIKE IT ONE DAY AT TIM MACKAYS I THINK THE MAKER WAS LOVE OR DOVE CHECK IT OUT CHARLENE



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My trommel gets the rocks so clean,
And breaks up all the clay;
It works and works - so lean and mean -
Works all the live long day.

So if you want no rocks or clay
To ever slow you down,
Just use a trommel every day
And watch 'er go to town!

What is that yellow in my swirls?
Could all of that be gold?
O, trommel, trommel... I'm your girl,
Together we'll grow old.


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kringle_mining
19:56:06 Fri
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Thanks Charlene for the phone call I will post the link. I just called Allen and got his answering machine. I called you back but your message box picked up and said it was full.

Here is the link Allen. Charlene found it.
Dovemining.com

  
allanwcoty
14:44:45 Sat
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Looks similar but flatter cones on top(Bummer) I have a line on the guy that put it up for auction so if he'll talk to me I'll get some more info. when things slow down. Thanks for the link and suggestions.

  
leonard
20:45:44 Sat
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You can see a cleanup from a large jig operation, about 150 yards an hour, at Commercial operation Northern Alaska There wasn't a sluicebox on the whole site. The file size is 56 meg.

After the video of the cleanup, there is a slide show of still pictures showing the complete operation. The primary jig was about 7 feet in diameter and fed into 2 small jigs. I have video somewhere of the operation but can't find the tape right now.

Leonard
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allanwcoty
03:03:36 Sun
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Thanks fot the info. guys. Downloading the video now. No speakers on my system, should I use someone elses. Found time to clean the hutches and it'll await cooler weather for indoor time.

  
aumbre
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Depending on the setup, it could be three rougher cells feeding a finishing cell or the tailings from the top three could feed a scavenger cell. Probably set up for a finisher and high grade concentrates but nowhere near clean gold.
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leonard
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In my video there was 1 roughing cell that was about 7 feet in diameter and 2 finishing cells that were maybe 18" accross. To do a cleanup, all he did was re-run the output of the finishing cells through one of them and then pan it out as shown in the video. The cons he started with were the results of about a 10 hour run at 125-150 yards an hour. It took less then 30 minutes to do the cleanup and he cleaned up every day at the end of the shift
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kringle_mining
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So 200 yd^3 /125 yds per hour = .16 of an hour of washing
That would take a pretty big shovel to feed it.

  
leonard
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This operation was fed with a large shovel into a big trommel and the output of the trommel ran into a slurry pump which fed the jig. The goal with the shovel was to feed a bucketfull of material into the trommel every 100 seconds continually.














Leonard
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leonard
18:01:04 Sun
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A few more pictures.





  
kringle_mining
18:11:34 Sun
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So Leonard what is the mesh on the trommel and what pumps the slurry to the jig?

  
leonard
18:28:31 Sun
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If I remember correctly, the bars on the trommel were 3/8ths inch apart. Supposedly, the gold there was all small. The slots on the main jig was only 1/8th inch wide by a couple of inches long. There is a picture of that above. The base material on the jig was casserite.

I have more pictures of trommel showing the bars. The slurry from the trommel went into a slurry pump and was pumped to the jig. I have pictures of all of it but not at home. I'll post some more tomorrow. I took in the area of 250 pictures of the operation.
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leonard
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That one may have been for sale at a government auction last year. It belonged to Tobie Larson. You might remember he was famous a year or so ago for producing 2 kinds of Alaska Gold. He actually fabricated the plant himself in Fairbanks. I was fortunate to be able to spend about 5 days watching and filming his placer gold operation. I didn't know a thing about his "other" golden operation.
Leonard

  
kringle_mining
19:13:15 Sun
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Ah yes , the bimodel secondary gold recovery from the adit with the bright lights heh heh. No doubt an oregonian flavor but yet for medicinal purposes only?

Alan was talking about using the garnets from the pay gravel as base material. Some of the garnets are thumb digit in size. The plant should be able to produce its own garnets. Two of the Coty claims should contain enough emory sands to finger file a metroplis of cuticles of men gone metro.

  
leonard
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Tobie said he was buying the cassiterite, I've been calling it out wrong, from somewhere in the Manley area. I had to look it up to see what it was but it had a specific gravity around 6.8 - 7.1.

What I would have been interested in seeing was the cleanup of the top of the roughing jig. Anything larger than 1/8" would still be sitting on top with the casserite. I didn't see anything visually but would be surprised if there wasn't a few pices up there. I didn't ask him about the final cleanup of the top for the year. It looked like he may have been recovering about 15 ounces a 10 hour day from it though. He had 2 people working for him. One running the trommel feed shovel and 1 running the equipment keeping material where the trommel feed could get it plus moving the tailings off of the trommel

He seemed to be a very hospitable guy as I ate at his house several times. He had a very nice wife. I was probably within 100 yards of his real money making operation and never had a clue.
Leonard

  
Manicminer
01:05:54 Mon
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Quote: leonard at 19:42:30 Sun Oct 10 2010


What I would have been interested in seeing was the cleanup of the top of the roughing jig. Anything larger than 1/8" would still be sitting on top with the casserite. I didn't see anything visually but would be surprised if there wasn't a few pices up there.


If you look closely at the pic where you have cleared the material to see the slots underneath, there's a piece of gold sitting on the plate near the bottom of the cleared area.

  
leonard
13:53:43 Mon
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Quote: kringle_mining at 18:11:34 Sun Oct 10 2010

So Leonard what is the mesh on the trommel and what pumps the slurry to the jig?


Here's a closer picture of the trommel.



Here's the slurry pump on the left. The motor drives it. It's getting a new set of bearings.



This is a closeup of what looks like gold to me on the roughing jog. The other pieces looked like rocks to me but this looks like a small piece of gold. The slots are about 1/8th inch in width.



Leonard

  
allanwcoty
17:44:26 Wed
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Thanks for the pictures and the links. I cleaned all the jig shot out and the whole unit. Sieved to minus 8 mesh and panned a scoop and was shocked to have about 100 colors in the pan, although very very small. I had to put it under the microscope to prove to myself that it was gold.

  
leonard
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At Tobies, the super fine stuff went through the system.

This hose is the outflow of the finishing jigs. The hole dug there is the panning sample I took.



This is the gold I got out of that sample. It was tough panning as the non-gold was almost flour sized black sand. All of the gold was about flour consistency also.




Leonard
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kringle_mining
17:04:22 Thu
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Sellers Remorse/ Panning the gold left in the jig

I went over to Allan's house yesterday upon an invite.
It appears that he is trying to break even on the cost of that jig. Apparently the last cleanup was left in the machine.
This is is the 1st pan of about 10 gallons of conc. Allan is getting ready to process.



It would be neat if the auctioneer actually paid Allan to haul this gold jig away:smile: That would require Allan to pan just a little over a 1/2 an ohzee..
OR by the time Bernake is done printing this weeks billion dollar bailout, Alan might be able to break even at 3 pennyweights:confused:

Leonard I believe Allan said this was Livengood dust as well.
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allanwcoty
03:30:10 Fri
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Leonard, it could be that this gold came from the tailings as I just bunched everything together when I pulled it out of the Jig. Funny thing is it seemed to clean up really easy?? I saved all the tailings in case I was super sloppy and it isn't that easy to seperate. Pictures forthcoming when I can find my camera.

  
allanwcoty
02:24:51 Sat
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First recovery of 10 Gal. of material netted 1/3 oz. Au. Can't wait to buy another piece of recovery equip.!!

  
kringle_mining
05:35:55 Sat
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Here is the 1/3 oz. picture. Is that about $400 bucks worth?

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allanwcoty
21:12:58 Mon
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Thanks for uploading the photo's!

  
catford
04:02:15 Mon
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the pictures are impressive.and i think this topic deservs a inensive discussion.and people should develop a reasonale attitude towards it. and it will be helpful. and i think i will think twice to avoid a hasty and wrong decision.


  
baub
12:49:09 Mon
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Amazing! This could spawn another TV show. I am so jealous.
Lol.

b

  
dredger
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Hey catford,

:welcome:

Along what lines were you thinking.??

dredger.

  

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