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Loader tires ( 03:54:42 SatMar 11 2017 )

Got a question for those out there with wheel loaders.
I have to get new tires for my Cat 966C.
The tire guys want to sell me radials, suppose to last longer and get better traction.
I've never used radials on a loader, always bias. In a remote mining operation with rough terrain and lots of rock the radials worry me.
Anyone have experience using radials on a loader ?
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Re: Loader tires ( 14:35:45 SatMar 11 2017 )

Dick,

I was once told; "You can't mine on rubber!" :confused:

Living in Arizona, I see lots of big rubber tires heading out to some of the largest copper mines in the world.

Mining in Alaska, I'm running rubber on my "Tonka Toys". This past season I replaced all four tires on my Bobcat S185. I bought original equipment "Bobcat" tires and asked for the "Heavy Duty" version. This is one area where COST isn't an issue! I had the tires mounted on NEW wheels and flown out to Takotna. The only problem was - they used rubber valve stems! So, I ordered steel stubby valve stems and plan to put them on in a couple of months when I get back up there. Nice to have a mounted set of used tires and wheels too! Bobcat also sells "Bead protectors" too. I have had a couple of instances where the beads break.

Working in remote areas, in the Arizona desert, I spend extra bucks for high bias sidewalls on my Jeep too. I have only on one occasion had a sidewall taken out by a rock.

Having been a Gold Prospector and Miner, I don't have ANY experience with radials! :smile:

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Re: Loader tires ( 05:46:25 SunMar 12 2017 )

Great question!!!! I have a Case 580 SM that the rear tires are wearing out and I am unsure of what I should do in regards to tire/ tread design. ideas? FYI mine are radials
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Re: Loader tires ( 18:45:22 MonMar 13 2017 )

If I was just using the loader for moving tailings I wouldn't be so worried about radials. But the loader gets used for so many different things and running through the cut when its on a sharp schist bedrock seems like just asking for trouble on radials.
Tire guys assure me radials are no more prone to sidewall damage than bias, not sure I buy the argument.
Main benefits they tell me are longer tread life and better traction so less likely to spin.
Dang L4 or L5 radials are expensive too !
Don't know but I have to decide soon.



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Re: Loader tires ( 19:41:06 MonMar 13 2017 )

Dick,

Radials are designed to roll under on side-ways forces. This exposes the thinner side-walls to sharp rocks.

Landscaping on a Golf course - no problem! If you're mining, Heavy-duty - High Bias is cheap insurance.

The problem in mining is that many of the sharp rocks are in mud holes. The worst-case scenario is a cut tire in a mud hole. The tire goes flat instantly. It breaks the bead and the machine leans over on the side.

You have an excavator. So, that makes life easy. For those that have to jack up a machine in a mud hole and place support timbers underneath - it's a problem! :smile:

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Re: Loader tires ( 00:23:56 TueMar 14 2017 )

Dick,
I ran radials on my 933 for a couple of years but I was loading straight sand. Tried to use it to help repile burned brush in fresh-cut timber and had flats everywhere. Sigh, had to go back to my old 955 tracked loader with worn out undercarriage. No flats on it though.

  
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Re: Loader tires ( 02:55:39 TueMar 14 2017 )

Glenn...
Had to laugh.... I got a flat on the 966 last Fall when I was finishing up. Had to go back to the old 955 too. Boy was I grumpy. Them rubber tire loaders are sure faster and more comfortable !

Guess I'll stick with the devil I know and get good bias tires again.



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Re: Loader tires ( 03:42:08 TueMar 14 2017 )

Every non radial tire on the place (farm tractors, skidder, and loaders) are now running foam-filled tires. Was a bit pricey to start, but no more down time due to flats. Even one with a deer antler stuck thru the sidewall.

  
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Re: Loader tires ( 06:36:21 FriMar 17 2017 )

Dick, I've put a lot of radial tires on equipment mostly for the better hiway tread design and they run better at higher speeds, that being said they all were for city streets, I'd stick with bias tires for a mining operation.

  
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Re: Loader tires ( 17:38:29 FriMar 17 2017 )

Dan...
Appreciate that input.

Hope the season goes well for you and the floater stays floating :smile:



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Re: Loader tires ( 06:03:08 MonMar 20 2017 )

Thanks Dick, I am anxious to get started and have a full season running the new wash plant, I hope you have a safe good season also !

  
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Re: Loader tires ( 16:01:05 MonMar 20 2017 )

Dan,

I recently watched a fascinating youtube video on the "floater" - in the Fortymile.

Are they one and the same? :confused:

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Re: Loader tires ( 17:29:03 MonMar 20 2017 )

Same basic design, mine is bigger and don't rock when it is fed

  

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