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nog49er
01:49:06 Mon
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lookin for lease in SE alaska

Hello All,

Got shut down by Arnold, looking for something to do in perhaps SE Alaska.
Have several dredges from 2" to 10"
10 inch is powered by a subaru 125 hp set up to capture fines from the Trinity river, trinity county Calif.
also have 6' chompin to eat some garvel.
prepard to travel to Alaska now,
still In nothern Calif at the moment but chompin at the bit to get going. should have left last week but hoping to get a prospect set up prior to starting off north.
Havent been able as of yet to find much info for lease options for small 2 or 3 man operation. Found several claims for sale but they were in the hundrdes of acres if not thousands for thousands
just looking for placer dredge ground to work on small scale at the moment.
looking to be in SE alaska at frist, hoping to be able to get some winter work in now if at all possible.
any info would be very much apperciated.

thanks you in advance,

Nog49er

  
nog49er
03:58:47 Mon
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Thanks Geowizard

Steam sauna wow!

I dident see any reference to dredging on that link, it was $1000 a month.I look again thanks

We are actually looking for more of the private held claims for perhaps a percentage deal?
not sure of the types of lease deals up north. some around here most all go by percentage. I personly know a guy that lease bogus claims for a weekly rate knowing damn well they are bogus claims. so it seems safer with the length of travel and all if we could get a percentage deal some where. we are hard core dredgers and plan on really getting at it. we were hoping to Find something in the panhandle SE Alaska, little warmer maybe stay thawed and get some possible winter work in. Dont know if there geographcal a cut off for warmer ares and possiblly be able to winter dredge. Anrold really screwed us up just got all the bugs worked out of this 10' dredge and shut down. We even consider beach or shallow ocean as we have acces to a friend with a boat.
Arnold really put the screws to the miners around here. funny thing F7G permit, it really has no application to the private miner and his inharent right to mine. we refused the FS plan of operation on those grounds. no application. its application is for mining gravel for crushing for road base. the mortoriom dose not even list gold mining, thats cause it cant, just like the plan of operation cant, no application.

Any how just looking for some decent ground to dredge for a percentage,

Anyone, Thanks and sorry for getting carried away there.
Hans and Nog

  
nog49er
04:20:24 Mon
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Thanks Geowizard

Steam sauna wow!

I dident see any reference to dredging on that link, it was $1000 a month.Ill look again thanks

We are actually looking for more of the private held claims for perhaps a percentage deal?
not sure of the types of lease deals up north. some around here,most all went by percentage.
we are hard core dredgers, well maybe until our tail feathers hit those fridged alaskan water. that could change everything, but plan on really getting at it. we were hoping to Find something in the panhandle SE Alaska, little warmer maybe stay thawed and get some possible winter work in. Dont know if there geographcal a cut off for warmer areas and possibly be able to winter dredge.
Anrold really screwed us up just got all the bugs worked out of this 10' dredge and shut down. We even consider beach or shallow ocean as we have access to a friend with a boat.
Arnold really put the screws to the miners around here. funny thing Calif F&G permit, it really has no application to the private miner and his inharent right to mine. we refused the FS plan of operation on those grounds. no application. its application is for mining gravel for crushing for road base.
the moratoriom dose not even list gold mining, thats cause it cant, just like the plan of operation cant, no application.

any comment welcome, something we havent considered, possble to dredge further inland in winter?
any place online for the small time miner to find some ground. wouldent mind dredging for a corporation for percentage ether if thats the deal.


Any how just looking for some decent ground to dredge for a percentage have motorhome, dredge, weak mind, bad back, will travel, Anyone,


Thanks and sorry for getting carried away there.
Hans and Nog

  
nog49er
17:48:43 Mon
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thanks again Geowizard

We know that this probably is not a good idea to leave so late in the season. However the limited info we seem to come up with here and the time and cost to just hang out here is not paying, so we thought if we could at least get some work in but mainly get down to researching potential areas and contacts for next season as you suggest is the goal.


we had been on the interactive map I think usgs and noticed that SE seemed to have alot of closed areas. although that mapping service has confused us some.
we were thinking of porcupine creek area near Juneau as a potential. of course as you state access is always a concern. we were hoping to find some contacts for any of the following SE areas
Juneau district
Admiralty district
Chichagof district
Hyder district
ketchikan district
kupreanof district
peterburg district
yakutat district

we were hoping weather wise in the SE we could still get some work done.

Could you give me an idea of the appox area for offshore ice dredging? as I assumed that would be further up north. dose it ice up in the ketchikan area? is there potential to ice dredge lease through those huge coporate holdings for a small outfit? Actually met a fellow who was on discovery channel ice dredging he just happened to stop by the claim we were on here in Calif. showed some nice photos, he sayed yhough that some yr. he only got 11 days in because of weather. And that is not out of the question ice dredging.

We were hoping to get up north get some work in while we do some better research.
we have potential for a boat thats already in alaska and know a lady friend that has a airplane
we also have a couple of metal detectors to play with.

Are there any other web sites you could suggest for research, contact info or possible sites that post looking for outfits. Im guessing that Alaskas remoteness is the reason were not finding much real time info for potential prospects.

oh the lure of that yellow stuff

thanks for looking
Nog49er

  
nog49er
18:36:56 Mon
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geowizard

very well sayed.

Thank you for your time and info

  
Jay321
20:49:20 Mon
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So what you are saying and others are agreeing to is that any claim offered for sale in Alaska is played out or not economically fit to turn a profit with or someone would be mining it. Same goes for a leese. Wow that is very discouraging. Most would like to think otherwise and would love to come to Alaska and make our millions, But thanks to guys like you all that keep us grounded to what is real. We can still have hope and I bet there are still a few claims that are worth while and could be worked for a profit though it might take a few years to get it going at a profit. Jay

  
Walt_Anchorage
00:14:10 Tue
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I'm not aware of many paying placer deposits existing on the pan handle. I know there has been some mining around Wrangel over the years and some small deposits around Juneau that led to discovery of the hard rock mines in the area.

I think it would be a waste of money to try and start something this late in the season without a definite plan and your logistics in place.

As has been said here a big problem with Alaska mining is there are so few roads in the state. By the time you get you and your gear into most parts of Alaska you will have made a sizable investment in airfare. Plus you have the cost of resupply and flying out again in the fall.

Having someone with an airplane as part of your group, while beneficial, doesn't eliminate the outrageous costs. This summer I paid over $7 a gallon for avgas in McGrath and about the same in Galena. Expect to pay $4 to 5 a gallon for auto gas in villages that are not on the road system.

To mine in much of Alaska you need to be in some good paying ground just to break even.



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nog49er
01:59:39 Tue
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Thanks for all the info very much apperciated Geowizard and friends.
Not really begginer miner and most all stated is true for the lower states as well except for the price increases.

We understand the risks and understand nothing is for sure however we are only looking for a foot in the door not to get rich over night by no means. ounce a day hell half ounce a day to start we think could get us going.

Really looking for more reference to avalibilty of potentials to lease and of course its up to us to loose our shirt.

I wonder was alaska hit harder than Calif? because there are plenty of places with good gold to be found here in areas that if you listen to most its all been played out, but we know otherwise. and to boot the mining was shut down for the gold recall of the 30s
the miners had to walk away. it wasent because it was all played out as most think. Yes the old timers hammered it but its been over hundred years too, got to get some redeposit.

and when the crash comes what better place to be than out of this rat race down here????????? ill trade you places right now!!!!!!!!

I also have a stack of reports that talk about the SE gold region they may not be as rich as the interior
but we spent 2 years getting geared up for Arnold to shut us down here in N Calif. we cant wait 2 years to find out they dident do the study down here.
And why wait tell next spring just to do the research we are doing now and the way we look at it it would be better to be closer and get some hands on and interact with people in the SE who may have already been in the interer?

So still considering going, foolish or not. were only loosing money and time sitting here might as well loose our money trying or at least closer for spring.
Plus we keep reading and seeing pictures of these fellows derdging in the winter up there and that gets us jacked' so here we are seeking info. were not the average joe were used to getting by and doing different things to get by if need be.

Thanks for the excellent advice very much appercate it and would love to hear more as there is always something new to consider.

Nog49er

  
nog49er
02:18:33 Tue
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WE also would consider winter dredging in interior Alaska, but we figured SE is closer and not sure just how frozen it gets in the interior. are there places that a guy can get winter dredging in the interior??? thats why we were considering SE to start research and see just whats up find our nich, and then what??? who knows! come weeping home or go to nome dont know?

the dredge gear and a weak mind is what we have to work with so were kinda limited in that way right now.
gotta try something.

nog49er

  
Proveit
20:34:55 Tue
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Just talked to a guy the other day who, about 15 years ago, chain sawed through the ice here in Nome and dredged. Problem was he couldn't move far under water and the whole thing was a bust.

Interior Alaska in the winter can be scary cold - really cold if you stay out it it and work around water, water that will freeze up in seconds. 50 below is very common.

If you have a skill, say truck driving, mechanic, plumber, welder, etc, move to a gold area, get a job, even part-time, and hang out and talk to miners for a year or two. Leave your equiptment in california and bring your clothes in a bag.

I doubt anyone here will tell you where to get an ounce per day, as they would already be there themselves. Good luck...

  
nog49er
21:55:13 Tue
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Thanks again
half to ounce a day we could only hope right?

Is it that dang cold down around Anchorage also on average years in winter? of coures Im sure the potential is there. maybe Im not correct in saying interior alaska? I just figured any where inland from the panhandle anchorage area up would be considered interior. but theres got to be variables of weather, oh just diffrent levels of cold and colder

Found a potential near Palmer, talking to the man, discription says possble winter dredging, getting 1/4 ounce a day, one man operation, I think he said 5' dredge.
Is it that freaking cold around palmer? says its OUT of the Susitna valley. not recive the winds of the valley.
Also found a spot on ebay no less in the willowcreek area, placer claim, I dont beleave he states any estament on value ill check that again.

And again we realize its mining and nothing is for sure.

And thanks for your consideration very much apperciated the information gleened from you boy up north. gave us something to chew on. got any more advice lay it on me PLEASE

thanks, Nog49er


  
Walt_Anchorage
23:35:50 Tue
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Basically the interior is on the north and northwest side of the Alaska range. Anchorage, Palmer and the Kenai are in South Central as is the Mat-Su. They include the Matanuska and Susinita valleys that respectively run generally east of Anchorage out past Palmer and north of Anchorage to the McKinley foothills Southeast is the pan handle from about Cordova south.

If you exclude Southeast, Anchorage is the banana belt of Alaska. Our winters are mild compared to the interior. We usually only get a few days of 10 to 20 below with most of the winter above zero. The Mat-Su temps are similar.

I guess some people dredge in the winter here but coming from California you may not quite understand Alaskan winters. In the dead of winter you only have three to four hours of daylight. The further north you go the less daylight you have. Itís cold and snowy from October to May.

I donít mean to try and discourage you. So many people come to Alaska without a real understanding of what our winter can be like. I hope you know what youíre getting into. If you want to try dredging during the winter I wish you luck. Iíll be inside by the fireplace.



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Jay321
15:12:48 Wed
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There is winter dredging going on at Crow Creek Mine, or used to be. That may be something to consider. I am not sure what they are charging now for fees, however it may still be worth your while. Just a thought. They may have a web site to check out. Is Nate still the care taker?
Jay

  
nog49er
20:01:11 Wed
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Thanks Jay
Crow creek mine AK Has a web site. will look more into it.

I emailed the fellow from Ebay about his Willowcreek claim, Drive your RV to. Asked general questions I would think any one would ask for a potential claim buyer. However He refused to anwser any questions and instead stated something about me must be a democrat????
Questioning my work ethic and stated I couldent make it pay?????????????? WOW the strangest responce I could not have emagined from one selling a claim.

read some good articles on Porcupine creek near Haines, seems it has potential, going to research it some more see if we cant find some contacts in that area.

nog49er

  

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