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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 03:52:37 SunFeb 14 2010 )

The hoist line is the one that lifts the bucket. The machine gets it's name from the drag line that pulls the bucket in.
I've never seen a large machine used in a pond until now. I believe the weight is usually too much for the boom to take. I imagine you must use a lot of care when operating like that.
As Aumbre says, the smaller machines are used a lot for cleaning sediment ponds and such where there's no boulders. My boss has 3 of them. The buckets go from 1 1/2 yds. to 3 yds. There's holes in the buckets near the top to drain some of the liquid out and retain the muck. I got to operate one for a couple days. I've never been so busy in my life! lol. There's no power down, just release the brake. Seems like you're always doing 3 things at once. Both hands and at least one of your feet are always moving. I have a lot more respect for my boss now that I've had a shot at operating those. The large machines are easier with their joysticks but it still takes quite a bit of experience to become proficient, I'm sure.
I'll throw in a couple pics this time. First is using a manbasket to assist in maintenance of the mast. I think it got a few cracks that needed to be welded. The main boom length of my crane is 126 ft. Even with the total 186 feet when the jib and extention are on I can only work about halfway up the dragline boom. To work on the tip they have to swing over the highwall or get a bigger crane. We also load the buckets on trucks when they need to be repaired. These empty buckets weigh around 50 tons.





I'm no dragline expert, I just get to be around them occasionally. I put these on here in case some the gang haven't been around what we have here in the U.S. We'll try to keep this thread about your side of the world, I find it fascinating. Excellent pics, Steppe!
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 06:35:11 SunFeb 14 2010 )

Draglines (smaller 1 to 3 yd buckets) used to be very very common in AK and elsewhere. They were best suited to overburden removal but could be and were used underwater even, and for ore moving/stacking.
It takes a real operator to use one for loading dirt onto anything but the side of a hill. I was fortunate enough to get to go on a prospecting adventure with one such man, Elmer Martinson of Nome, AK. (Yes his son is Doug). Elmer got started on 'lines as a logger in the pacific NW of the US in the 30s. He said, and I believed him, that he could take the tri-toothed grapple used for picking up logs, and he could swing it so it opened just right and grabbed the tire of a logging truck, without damaging the truck. That's an operator.
But such are few and far between nowadays, excavators fill most of the roles draglines used to, so few new operators are out there especially for the "smaller' units. And they are one complex beast to run, I hear, I never did anything more than look in the cab at all them levers..
I am pretty sure that the Dragline is still by far the cheapest / fastest overburden stripper on unfrozen ground for a small to medium operation that has some stripping to do. Very efficient machines.
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 21:33:51 SunFeb 28 2010 )

Steppe, Thanks for the thread and all the pictures. I am a huge fan of Bucket-line dredges past and present. Living here in Alaska, I've had the pleasure of being able to visit the old FE Company dredges (and a dragline) of the Fairbanks area. Thanks to online research and Google Earth, Ive got a list now of over 80 dredges around the world, some little more than a derelict hull all the way to the modern day Russian dredges. Thanks for all the information on here and on your website.

  
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 14:52:42 MonMar 1 2010 )

Outnaboutnak - great to hear from a fellow fan of bucket-line dredges! This thread "ain't over until its over" and once I get done with wacky jobs here, then the show goes on. For the moment, way too busy, but the stuff is sat here ready to post.

Looking forward to your posts too!
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 05:03:58 ThuMar 18 2010 )

Bucket Line Dredge Tailings
Russian Federation, Province of Sverdlovsk Oblast

The area near the town of Kachkanar is part of one of the first dredging fields in Russia. The majority of the dredging that occurred here was for platinum.

Just south of the town of Kachkanar along the Isa River is a large area of dredging nearly eight miles long. This picture shows row after row of rectangular dredge tailings. The river flows both along side and in between the rows, leaving many sloughs of open water across the riverbed. Notice the amount of revegetation. These tailings are from an area first dredged before 1910, over 100 years ago. The appearance (color, size, shape) of the vegetation appears to be the same as the surrounding natural forests leading me to believe that this area has equalized the land. It has taken a great amount of time, but natural reclamation has taken place.





This photo, looking between one of the rows of tailings, clearly shows the size of the trees that are growing there, nearly identical to the natural forest in the center background of the picture.



Farther along, you can see evidence of the machines that once worked the valleys.



Near the downstream end of the dredging field, the tailings rapidly disappear into a manmade reservoir of unknown purpose. In the early 1900’s some dredges of the area worked in ponds with dams of up to 40 feet high. This was because of the both the high slope of the valley and it allowed them to dredge the lower benches of the river.



Here is another good example of natural revegetation. This is the Vyya River just north of town. There are several interesting things to note in this picture. First, the dredging area extends in a loop from the left to the right extents of the picture. Second, note the part of the city in the lower left corner. Third, the lower center area is an open pit mine. And last, from that mine, flows two channels of what appears to be overflow. A closer look shows an alluvial fan of sediments and flood type debris spread out into the valley, covering much of the dredge tailings.



A closer look here of the Vyya River dredge tailings, again showing that natural revegetation has taken place on these 100 year old mined areas.



Sources

“Dredging in the Russian Empire”
The Engineering and Mining Journal
November 14, 1914

Aerial Photos from Google Earth

Other Photos from http://www.panoramio.com/

Disclaimer

The above information is taken from aerial photography and the information I can get from area pictures. I have never stepped foot there, nor am I any kind of expert in this field. Please feel free to comment.




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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:42:04 ThuMar 18 2010 )

Side note on that great photo essay, outnabout, is that 1910 dredges were probably steam powered, with fuel being cordwood. That was certainly the case in interior AK then. So the revegetation probably started simultaneously both on the undredged stuff and on the dredged stuff.

  
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 04:28:57 FriMar 19 2010 )

I didn't think about that, and is probably very true. The information I have found shows that they used electric, wood, and peat to power the dredges. It is reasonable to assume they may have possibly used coal as well. The electricity was provided by a steam plant several miles away and burned wood.



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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 17:06:30 MonMar 29 2010 )

Hooray!! Steppegold and Popandsonminer are back. This is good news for all of us. I will return more too.
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 04:31:47 TueNov 16 2010 )




http://ranive.ru/archives/208

56.918701,60.985107 GE Coord.

Heres a great Russian article on one of the many dredges used in the country. You might not be able to read Russian (I cant either) but you can translate it easily with Google Toolbar!

The article states that at one point (1962), they came across a railroad bridge, and instead of moving the dredge around it, they raised the bridge and the moved the dredge underneath, saving months.



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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:32:04 SatNov 20 2010 )

This is a great thread! Between us we've caught a lot of gold dredges across the world, and even managed to demonstrate that leaving Ma Nature to slowly do its work ends up in really nice environments. To use the jargon - low-cost frugal land reclamation maximising natural seral change to produce habitats with a high degree of naturallness - far higher naturallness than evident when sites are reclaimed at vast cost, and far more natural than most farmland. Cool!

I'm just stickin' pins in Goooooogle Earth for Russian and Chinese gold dredges and their crocs and bananas. Huge number, far more than ever was in USA+Canada m'thinks. And many Chinese and Russian dredge fleets are cranking out the gold and will continue to do so for decades to come.

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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:19:41 SunNov 21 2010 )

Phew, I've finished plotting all the placer gold mines, bucket-line dredges, dredge crocs and bananas I can see on Google Earth in Siberia and Asia. And many thanks to everyone who has chipped in with valuable help - and please chip in again if you see something I've missed out. There must be a lot more somewhere... .

Actually this turns out to be a neat quick lesson in how to get the most out of Google Earth. I think everyone knows its possible to preserve GE images as jpgs. (Steppe - you mean Print Screen Save then into MS Paint). Er well that's OK but MUCH QUICKER is to go to the TOP LEFT of the Google Earth screen and use the drop-down:
File>Save>Save Image... ...and then just give the pic a title and put it wherever you want on the 'puter.

Well, this is the rather messy result, the big bucket-line dredges of China, Mongolia, and Siberia; messy due to the confusion of the background:



We can click GE to highlight the coast and national borders, but it still looks messy, and the borders are very difficult to see:


What is needed is a nice plain background. (And you are going to show us Steppe? Ed). Yep and it took me a year to figure it out and 5 minutes to do it... see below!
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:27:54 SunNov 21 2010 )

The trick is to get rid of all that messy Gooeygal-ert splodges of mismashed images.

Just throw a coloured blanket over it.

(Eh, waddya mean? Ed)

Just open MS Paint, its free and on your Gates 'puter. Then choose any colour that takes your fancy, or black. I chose black, and then saved the black images as GIF (to keep it tiny).

Then use ADD dropdown on Google Earth and click 'IMAGE OVERLAY'. That allows you to add any image you like from your computer. Add the GIF, and stretch it as big as you like before saving it. And wow here it is!


  
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:33:24 SunNov 21 2010 )

(Steppe, but er I am lost). Ah, sorry! We can click VIEW on GE and then check 'GRID'....


That's better!

And now we can add stuff and still be able to see it.

For starters, here are the Gold Dredge towns. Yep, the Gold Rush is still in full swing over them thar hills (or Pacific to be specific...).

Hmmmm, the writing is a bit fuzzy, and that seems to be normal when saving a GE image. If anyone knows the cure, then please post.


  
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:40:10 SunNov 21 2010 )

Adding a bit more...
...the clusters of small bucket-line dredges are shown by smaller orange anchors:


And now here is the grand result - with non-dredge placer gold mine added as bright yellow dots, and the crocodiles/bananas of the dredges added as blue dots.


What do you think, guys and gals?

And if anyone can dream up a nice logo for a dredge rather than an anchor then please post!

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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 07:16:09 MonNov 22 2010 )

Steppe, thanks for posting that. Heres what my GE map looks like.



Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Hard to tell, but there are 60 pins stuck in there, representing dredges and dredging. All but only a half dozen are dredges visible on GE. I am constantly amazed at the size and scale of the dredging done in this area of the world.

Some dredges are working with each other.




Some show perfectly how "crocodiles and bananas" are formed.




Some are simply abandoned where they last worked.




Others are no more than a rusted hull, left abandoned.






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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 17:00:42 MonNov 22 2010 )

Outnaboutnak - greetings. Wow, you've been busy. You've got more dredges than I ever knew.

As you've probably noticed, we've both plotted a couple of huge bucket-line dredges that are special, both being DIAMOND DREDGES. Once internet lets me, I'll post some info on them. In effect they are dredging diamonds from kimberlite pipes.

Here is the Mirny Diamond Mine in the Mirny Kimberlite Pipe in the Sakha Republic of the Russian Federation. The open pit is 525m deep, and the 2nd deepest open pit in the world after Bingham Copper Mine. The Mirny open pit was abandoned in 2004 in favour of underground mining.


And here are Outnaboutnak's - pair of diamond dredges (anchor symbols) with their crocs (lilac dots) leaving a trail of 'evidence' from the Minry Kimpberlite Pipe...


This seems to show that alluvial/placer diamonds can travel 20km from the source kimberlite pipe and still be worth dredging. However, there are several other known kimberlite pipes also pinpointed on the map, so there may be some sideward contribution of diamonds. Of course there may be yet more diamondiferous kimberlite pipes close to the dredges that haven't been found yet.

Anyhow, this association of 2 Bucket-Line Diamond Dredges and a 525-metre deep Diamond Mine sure is interesting!

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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 18:32:01 MonNov 22 2010 )

Yes, you're right.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://zolotodb.ru/articles/mining/underwater/10101&ei=eLTqTNPHE422sAPr8qyxCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://zolotodb.ru/articles/mining/underwater/10101%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3Dolb%26rls%3Den





According to this article, this is a diamond dredge. Are the diamonds a byproduct of the gold, or do they collect gold as a byproduct of diamonds, or, are they soley dredging for diamonds. Very interesting.



Another diamond pipe in Russia, the Udachnaya pit. No dredging done off of this one, but look at the size of that thing. Notice the amount of tailings to the north.




According to this article
Dredge 201, which is still seen in GE began operating in 1959!



Diamond Dredging article



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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 06:18:18 ThuDec 16 2010 )

This ones nowhere near Russia, but its cool nontheless. Its on Rufin Creek, Suriname, South America,
3°39'11.76"N 54° 7'1.78"W


"In 1963 Sarakreek Goudvelden N.V. ceased their operations. In that same year Lawa Goldfields Ltd., a subsidiary of North Shore Goldfields Ltd. from Ontario, Canada, started a dredging operation with a bucket line dredge with 4.5 Cu. feet buckets. Under the agreement with Sarakreek Goudvelden N.V. a royalty of 12 % of the gold value after production costs, was to be paid. This dredge mined the Rufin creek valley over a distance of about 3.5 km, from 1963-1969, and recorded a production of 23,151 oz of gold. The operation was considered a failure, largely due to bad cost estimates, ignorance of the ground and inexperienced management. Gold theft on a large scale was the result and the operation was stopped in October 1969." -

-TECHNICAL REPORT ANTINO GOLD PROJECT SURINAME, SOUTH AMERICA


Benzdorp Gold Project – Suriname






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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 06:36:13 ThuDec 16 2010 )

This is the El Bagre Dredge working on the Rio Nechi in Columbia, South America. Its so large, it has its own heliport!




LANDING IN A DRAGA.MPG


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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 06:45:58 ThuDec 16 2010 )

Wow[B] Outnaboutak that's breathtaking! Sure is a nice landing pad, and a great way to take the gold out too.

Excellent piece of due diligence.
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 07:02:10 ThuDec 16 2010 )

Across the ocean on the west coast of Sierra Leone is a large Rutile Dredge under construction. 7°43'28.40"N 12°21'13.22"W


This dredge may be the one that capsized here.

Joint statement issued about Sierra Rutile dredge incident



Sierra Rutile Mine


Wikipedia - Rutile






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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 04:31:25 MonDec 20 2010 )

Outnaboutnak - that's a great bit of detective work on the capsizing of a huge dredge. I wonder how it happened? Perhaps the pontoon got punctured and there were no sealed cross-walls. That's what sunk the Titantic, 'twas British engineering at its best, and was BAT for its day. Thankfully BAT has moved on, but not for rutile dredges m'thinks.

Now a big question. You've got a better oversight, literally, of bucket-line dredges of the world than anyone I know. If you were to chose say half-a-dozen sites as 'World Heritage Sites' then which would be your choice?

The selection criteria might be something like this:

1: important part of the cultural/social/economic history of the region.
2: high degree of naturalness achieved ON PART of the site, by means of natural colonisation by grass, shrubs and/or trees (seral change), but ideally some areas still at least fairly bare.
3: either wildnerness or better some interesting human uses that add to the significance of the site, such as tourism, housing, and of course actual or potential for recreational gold mining (platinum and diamonds also very welcome!).
4: part of the site so vegetated that it is best left alone and off-limits to recreational miners
5: a large part of the site suitable as a Buffer Zone for recreational miners and tourists, without degrading the crocs and bananas of the Core Zone.


In one sense this is just a fun idea. But hey great ideas have to start somewhere and this Forum could take the lead.

It would be great to turn the greens around - by recommending a World Heritage Site for a dredge tailings areas because of the tailings cultural, historical, ecological, artistic, touristic AND recreational mining merit.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 00:12:15 TueDec 21 2010 )

Geowizard, do you have an alternative to BAT? You sound more like an angry loud heckler than a debater.

  
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 05:57:36 TueDec 21 2010 )

Quote: Steppegold at 04:31:25 Mon Dec 20 2010

Outnaboutnak - that's a great bit of detective work on the capsizing of a huge dredge. I wonder how it happened? Perhaps the pontoon got punctured and there were no sealed cross-walls. That's what sunk the Titantic, 'twas British engineering at its best, and was BAT for its day. Thankfully BAT has moved on, but not for rutile dredges m'thinks.

Now a big question. You've got a better oversight, literally, of bucket-line dredges of the world than anyone I know. If you were to chose say half-a-dozen sites as 'World Heritage Sites' then which would be your choice?

The selection criteria might be something like this:

1: important part of the cultural/social/economic history of the region.
2: high degree of naturalness achieved ON PART of the site, by means of natural colonisation by grass, shrubs and/or trees (seral change), but ideally some areas still at least fairly bare.
3: either wildnerness or better some interesting human uses that add to the significance of the site, such as tourism, housing, and of course actual or potential for recreational gold mining (platinum and diamonds also very welcome!).
4: part of the site so vegetated that it is best left alone and off-limits to recreational miners
5: a large part of the site suitable as a Buffer Zone for recreational miners and tourists, without degrading the crocs and bananas of the Core Zone.


In one sense this is just a fun idea. But hey great ideas have to start somewhere and this Forum could take the lead.

It would be great to turn the greens around - by recommending a World Heritage Site for a dredge tailings areas because of the tailings cultural, historical, ecological, artistic, touristic AND recreational mining merit.

Any suggestions?

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Steppe





Steppe, thanks for the kind words. I must confess, Im no expert, just someone who is fascinated by these dredges, with a bit of free time on his hands. I love the question and its a hard one to answer.

Most if not nearly all the abandoned dredging sites fit one or more of your criteria, but not all. It will take me a few posts, but I will try to find some good candidates.



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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 07:02:43 TueDec 21 2010 )

Quote: Steppegold at 04:31:25 Mon Dec 20 2010


Now a big question. You've got a better oversight, literally, of bucket-line dredges of the world than anyone I know. If you were to chose say half-a-dozen sites as 'World Heritage Sites' then which would be your choice?

The selection criteria might be something like this:

1: important part of the cultural/social/economic history of the region.
2: high degree of naturalness achieved ON PART of the site, by means of natural colonisation by grass, shrubs and/or trees (seral change), but ideally some areas still at least fairly bare.
3: either wildnerness or better some interesting human uses that add to the significance of the site, such as tourism, housing, and of course actual or potential for recreational gold mining (platinum and diamonds also very welcome!).
4: part of the site so vegetated that it is best left alone and off-limits to recreational miners
5: a large part of the site suitable as a Buffer Zone for recreational miners and tourists, without degrading the crocs and bananas of the Core Zone.


In one sense this is just a fun idea. But hey great ideas have to start somewhere and this Forum could take the lead.

It would be great to turn the greens around - by recommending a World Heritage Site for a dredge tailings areas because of the tailings cultural, historical, ecological, artistic, touristic AND recreational mining merit.

Any suggestions?

:welcome:
Steppe





If I were to start somewhere, it would be right here in my home state of Alaska. Its a toss up between the states of Alaska and California as the greatest gold dredging state in the US. Certainly dredging was born in California, but the challenges faced here in Alaska to wrestle the gold out of the ground deserves respect.

Lets start with the National Register of Historic Places. In Alaska there are five dredges listed, F.E. Company Dredges #2,4,5,8, and all but #4 are located near Fairbanks, and the Swanberg Dredge near Nome. In California, the Tuolumne Gold Dredge is located on the register, as well as the Sumpter Valley Gold dredge in Oregon.

Coming back to Alaska, its interesting to note that several other places associated with the Fairbanks dredging are located on the National Register, including the the mining camp at Chatanika, the F.E. Company Machine Shop
downtown Fairbanks, several company housing buildings and the Pump House on the banks of the Chena River. With the exception of the Chatanika Gold Camp, none of the other places are adjacent to dredging sites, but that does not exclude there importance.

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Chatanika Gold Dredge




FE Company Dredge #2






Pedro Dredge, Chicken AK


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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 05:36:19 WedDec 22 2010 )

Continuing with my Alaska dredging areas since I know more about them. Chatanika, Alaska.

First, a full overview of the dredging area, extending side to side, top to bottom.






Now with pertinent placemarks on the map.







Natural Revegitation of Dredge Tailings

Example #1






Example #2





1: important part of the cultural/social/economic history of the region.

Any bit of research will tell you the impact that this and the other dredging sites of the Fairbanks area has had. The town was formed by miners and survived the rush with the next 50 odd years of dredging.

2: high degree of naturalness achieved ON PART of the site, by means of natural colonisation by grass, shrubs and/or trees (seral change), but ideally some areas still at least fairly bare.

As shown in the above photos

3: either wildnerness or better some interesting human uses that add to the significance of the site, such as tourism, housing, and of course actual or potential for recreational gold mining (platinum and diamonds also very welcome!).

Shown in the pictures.

4: part of the site so vegetated that it is best left alone and off-limits to recreational miners

A few, not too vegetated, but its there.

5: a large part of the site suitable as a Buffer Zone for recreational miners and tourists, without degrading the crocs and bananas of the Core Zone.


There is so much land here, plenty of spots for a buffer.


A view of the dredge, unfortunately, the public hasnt been too kind on it. Its still worth saving though.



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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 06:53:08 WedDec 22 2010 )

A couple of years before I left Alaska I was negotiating with the owner of the Chatanika Gold Camp to buy it. There is some fantastic gold still left on the actual camp property. The camp property is comprised of 55 acres that was never mined because that was where the workers were housed when the dredge was working.

I wanted to make it a tourist attraction, complete with a pay to mine concession. The prospecting logs I saw showed exceptional gold deposits on bedrock at a depth of 60-90 feet. The prospecting was done recently by men who simply hand dug down to pay layer and drifted out from there.

The facility was turn key with 25 bunkhouse style rooms in two buildings, three duplexes, an aurora viewing dome, a resturant, a gift shop and a large front end loader and other misc. inventory and vehicles.

I have pictures of the facility and will post them if I can find them. I never completed the purchase because of difficulty negotiating with the owner.



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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 10:16:57 WedDec 22 2010 )

I'm against any more withdrawals, buffers, parks, reserves or any such thing. Alaska already has enough withdrawals. There is a lot of history in the pictures you have posted. Most all of the tailings on both sides of the road are in private property holdings with the land behind blocked from access. There has been active mining along the sidehill in several spots. Many old shafts still visible next to the overburden pile, (tailings pile) pinned. Also a very large graveyard of conveyor parts as well as parts for the dredge. If you haven't hiked this area and are in the area, get out and enjoy. I grew up on this and the Fox dredges, they are marvelous pieces of equipment. I'll see if I can find any of my photo's.

  
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Re: Gold Dredges, Bacon n' Beans, Crocodiles and Bananas ( 16:59:19 WedDec 22 2010 )

Quote: shaftsinkerawc at 10:16:57 Wed Dec 22 2010

I'm against any more withdrawals, buffers, parks, reserves or any such thing. Alaska already has enough withdrawals. There is a lot of history in the pictures you have posted. Most all of the tailings on both sides of the road are in private property holdings with the land behind blocked from access. There has been active mining along the sidehill in several spots. Many old shafts still visible next to the overburden pile, (tailings pile) pinned. Also a very large graveyard of conveyor parts as well as parts for the dredge. If you haven't hiked this area and are in the area, get out and enjoy. I grew up on this and the Fox dredges, they are marvelous pieces of equipment. I'll see if I can find any of my photo's.


Thanks for the reply and I can really appreciate your thoughts I spent the last ten years in Fairbanks and also really feel the history of area. Remember, this Is for fun and almost a history lesson of sorts.



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