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tom_brennan 03:18:41 Fri Dec 3 2004 Offline 14 posts Outdoor Bumbly Reply |
I was interested by Roger's comment in the What if you don't need the bolts? thread in the Rebolting forum. He said "I would that my fully ring bolted 23+ routes were as popular as the <16 ones!", which got me thinking.
Does anyone have any statistics (anecdotal - I'm sure there are no actual ones) on what grade of climbs are the most popular (by number of ascents). I had a flick through the Pircher/Carter guide to get a rough indicator of grade popularity by number of climbs. I've used their grade groupings, but grouped the <14s in 3s for a more meaningful comparison. Using their grade groupings, the clear winner was 21-23, with 18-20 nudging out 24-26 for second. 15-17 is next, followed by 12-14, 27-29, 9-11, 6-8 and 30-32. Not much point in going any further. So for popularity by number of ascents, my guess would probably be
Which is why I think that Roger's development of some easier climbs is great. Because despite the number of 24+ climbs out there (based on the guide), I reckon most of the traffic is elsewhere. Interested to know other people's thoughts. cheers Tom PS: I'm aware that if I used the SRC Upper Blue Mountains guide I would possibly get a different distribution ... but it would have been a bugger to count! ---- tomb@ozultimate.com Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning Bushwalking? try http://ozultimate.com/bushwalking |
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shawkshaw 03:24:15 Fri Dec 3 2004 Offline 1343 posts Administrator  Reply |
from the crag.com tick of asutralia peak at grade 18. see attached image
edit: image doesn't have anything in it. doh. any way it is sort of like a bell curve although there is a marked jump up at grade 14 and it peaks at 18 then more or less constantly decreases with difficulty. go to the australia stats page of the crag and it will be there. [ Attached File: climbprofile.gif - downloaded 10 times] |
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Goodvibes 03:49:11 Fri Dec 3 2004 Offline 799 posts roped joker Mood Now:  Reply |
Interesting stuff. I always used to find myself scanning the guide for moderte/easy grade sport routes. There are not all that many around although that is changing somewhat due to the unselfish efforts of a few developers.
In regards to sport climbing it seems that in the Blueys when you can climb 23+ there are so many more options available. I guess there are quite a few from grade 18 and up but there is definetely a very small number in the lower grades. How many grade 14-16 routes in the Blueys do you know of that are really suitable for a beginner to lead?? Having a greater number of safe routes in the lower grades makes it so much easier for those starting climbing to move on to lead climbing much earlier than they would have done in the past. |
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Cragx 05:11:08 Fri Dec 3 2004 Offline 1980 posts Administrator  Mood Now:  Post Mood:  Reply |
Basically you normally have been climbing for a few years before you develop sport routes (just how it normally works out). You tend to spy lines around your upper limit to bolt as they will give you a higher challenge/fun to cost ratio.
Lucky for a few, I climb like shit so my upper limit for new route is in the low moderate grades, but i think you'll find Im the exception to the rule. Safest sport route in the mountains, The Anzac Spirit, Sahara point 27m of garde 13 juggy slab. I got a bit carried away with the drill that day  |
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vwills 04:10:15 Thu Dec 9 2004 Offline 348 posts Soloer Reply |
Will we expect a spate of bolted 12-14s when you are finally allowed to use your shoulder again?
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Cragx 04:17:56 Thu Dec 9 2004 Offline 1980 posts Administrator Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
Nah they probably be to hard for me by then :sad:
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