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Pippy15  02:54:16 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 2932 posts Red Speedo Inspector  Mood Now:  Reply |
So Ms Gilly does not like the land of her birth anymore. What a frigin jerk she is. A quote from her latest inverview. Thanks to Linda who sent this to me
"In any case, she has no desire to be in America; if she hadn't been here already, she would certainly have moved after Bush was re-elected. 'I know people who are embarrassed to be American. They don't like showing their passports. It's becoming a scary place. It takes someone very brave not to be quiet, someone who doesn't mind death threats, their life being turned upside down, news cameras outside their door. There is no freedom of speech in America anymore. They are not living up to the constitution. There's so much fear in America and control.' For this reason, she relishes our overtly critical press, for all that it used to send its photographers to stand outside her house. I cannot ever see her going back to Hollywood.""" |
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BearGirl74 05:06:22 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now:  Post Mood:  Reply |
Pippy, I'm very sorry, but this post really crosses the line where political discussions are concerned. If there are to be any comments, I am afraid I will have to request that they not be of any political nature due to the divisive tendancy of such topics.
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BeyondX 07:03:12 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 80 posts Impressed by David  Reply |
Yes the constitution is under attack and I hope that people will not let it happen just because the government does not want to do anything hard about the problems that face our country. |
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tothemoonandback 10:12:57 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 197 posts David Lover Reply |
So she's not entitled to her opinions now? I know people who are embarassed to be American too. Gillian has made no secret of her dislike for Bush and I don't see what the problem is with that really?! Just because she's American does that mean she isn't allowed to be critical of the government? I'm British but do I have to like everything that goes on here!? No...and I don't. If I were in her financial position I would be out of here today because I hate the way this country is being run by Mr "Bush says jump, I asks how high" Blair. I can sit here and whinge and moan about it to my hearts content, nobody is going to bad an eyelid...but when you're in the public eye like Gillian is, you don't have that same freedom of speech that Joe Public does...which is proven even more by the reaction of Americans to this interview.
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BearGirl74 11:33:52 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
Okay, guys -- I said it before, and I'll say it again. I know it is all too tempting with this particular subject, but please try to abstain from political discussion on this matter, especially where naming names (Bush, Blair, etc.) are concerned. Laurie set up this rule, one of our few, a long time ago, and I plan to continue to uphold it, because we all have our opinions where these leaders and these views are concerned. And of course, we are all entitled to those opinions. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but the problem is that they tend to vary quite drastically in many cases. The important thing is that the majority of posters here agree on the talents and looks of DD, among other things, regardless of our political opinions, and this site serves as a refuge from these types of discussions, if anything.
 Thank you for taking this into consideration. There are plenty of other message boards available elsewhere on Cyberland where political discussions are fair game, I can assure you, and I would encourage others to engage in those types of discussions on those boards. This isn't the place for it. I am quite aware that politics are fair game on other XF-related boards, but that is not the case here.
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tothemoonandback 12:33:35 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 197 posts David Lover Reply |
Sorry BearGirl, feel free to delete my post if you think it crosses too many lines.
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BearGirl74 12:41:02 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
That's all right, TTM&B. You're not the first one I've hammered on where this is concerned, and I imagine you won't be the last. I do realize it's becoming increasingly difficult to adhere to this rule, especially with so many celebs jamming their political opinions down our throats these days (what? me resentful? how can you say so?
 LOL), so I do appreciate your consideration.At least it's not an election year like last year was -- oy!!!  So hopefully it should be a little easier...
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Pippy15 17:11:43 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 2932 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Reply |
I won't get into politics Bear i promise. I just want to say that i hope this women put her foot in her mouth this time. Even if i were a big fan of Gillian I would not be now. I just feel she should have kept her big mouth shut. Let her stay the hell over there. Who will miss her anyway. If you want to delte it i understand. I was just blown away with that statement.
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tothemoonandback 18:37:14 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 197 posts David Lover Reply |
I see nothing wrong with her opinion or what she said and...
...I'm sure she will anyway |
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BearGirl74 19:01:21 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
Not to step in it or anything, but I couldn't agree more. And she's not the only one I would say that about. Beyond that I will say no more...
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Pippy15 19:41:36 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 2932 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Reply |
People of Vancouver took umbrage when David said that it rained to much in Vancouver. And this was said as part of a TV skit. People even egged his home and we still hear about this today from many XF fans. Well it is my hope that her fans here in the USA will boycot her work. I hope she gets the same backlash that the Dixie chicks did. It was a real smack against the county that i love. That said i love England too and i guess they will have to put up with her shi*.
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BeyondX 20:35:46 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 80 posts Impressed by David Reply |
I agree tothemoonandback it is an opinion that she feels is happening to America. She may be ahead of what is happening but I can see it happening if we are not careful. I take what Tom Cruise said more to hart because he said it personally about someone. |
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Pippy15 20:58:45 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 2932 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Reply |
Well in MHO she should keep those opinions to herself. How did she think people would react to hearing something like that. I'd bet more would be offended then not. |
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tothemoonandback 21:31:02 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 197 posts David Lover Reply |
Well since it was an British interview for a British paper as part of promotions for a British film, I am willing to bet that the majority of people who read the intervew were also British and therefore not offened in the slighest. Indeed I would also suspect that many agree with her view. The interviewer thought she had no desire to return to the USA, and I am not surprised. |
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Pippy15 21:36:40 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 2932 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Reply |
Good i won't miss her one bit.
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BearGirl74 21:38:52 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
Sorry, but this sounds a little political to me. I'm not going to edit it out myself or anything, but I just thought you would like to know...
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BeyondX 21:45:32 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 80 posts Impressed by David Reply |
You would not miss her even if she didn't say anything. |
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BearGirl74 21:56:12 Sun Aug 28 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
Just thought I should quote the "No Political Discussion"-bit in detail, and link it to the actual thread in question
in question for all to reread at their convenience. It might be a good idea since a couple of politically slanted GA-posts which have warranted political discussion have emerged within the past couple of days...
And no, I am not trying to respond to the last post or imply that there was anything politically wrong with it, before I am accused of it. Just trying to prevent the next fire, so to speak...
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Tyfusion 04:20:52 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 446 posts David Enthralled Mood Now:  Post Mood:  Reply |
I'm sure you are right, no one over there was offended and most probably agreed with her. I suspect that part of the reason for the recent remarks, was to ingratiate herself with the British press and her British fans and to reinforce her "britishness". I'm sure she will have a bunch of interviews coming up relating to her many current projects and now that she's shown a willingness to make political commentary and the press are aware of it, I for one cant wait to hear them.  |
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Pippy15 04:24:25 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 2932 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Reply |
You and me both I've been reading some other forums and it looks as though she has made quite a few people angry with those remarks. |
Koo_Luvs_Chad  05:04:22 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 115 posts David Lover Mood Now:  Post Mood: Reply |
I have no problem with what GA or anybody else has to say about political matters. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. However, high profile people should not be surprised or become indignant if others strongly disagree. In short if a star opens their mouth and flings their hat into the political arena they should be prepared for the fallout from the public (which may manifest itself in nasty internet posts, letters to the editor or a call to boyout future shows/films.) I guess in short don't piss and moan if there is public backlash. That goes for GA, DD, Sean Penn, Ashley Judd or anyone else who wants to make public statements about matters that evoke such strong passions in people. In short realize that with strong words sometimes come strong consequences.
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BeyondX 05:54:26 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 80 posts Impressed by David Reply |
What forums are you talking about fans or general? |
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joy81 10:05:59 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 320 posts David Enthralled Reply |
Do people really care so much what Gillian Anderson thinks? She's just an actress, and kind of a ditzy one at that. I don't listen to celebs to form my own political ideas. If she wants to yammer on about her understanding of American politics, let her. Free speech and all that. God knows she's not the first celebrity to do it, and unfortunately she won't be the last.
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BearGirl74 11:37:50 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 301 posts Red Speedo Inspector Mood Now: Post Mood: Reply |
LOL...Koo, I do believe you'll get me into a bit of trouble on this one! Heeheehee...nice to see ya.  I don't want to go into a lot of detail here, at least not in public, but I completely agree with this assessment. People in the public eye do have the right to say what is first and foremost on their mind, but what they do not have the right to do imo is to assume that they think for the paying public. Yes, they have a right to voice their opinions, but the public also has a right to say what they think of what said celebrity thinks, be it complete agreement or the personal assessment that said celebrity is full of it in their opinion. And one should keep in mind that the public, also entitled to their own individual views, fully has the right whether or not to fund the artwork created by said celebrity if they so choose, especially in today's ((ahem)) economic atmosphere. JMO, of course...
I agree, Carma -- Laurie was very wise. I still consider this to be her board, and I consider her to still be here in spirit.
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KellyT2 15:28:51 Mon Aug 29 2005 Offline 957 posts Delirious For David  Mood Now:  Post Mood:  Reply |
I don't mind that GA's embarrassed to be an American, as long as she's ok with other Americans being embarrassed that she's one as well!
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