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Sargent_D 00:55:52 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1320 posts  Reply |
A) The anti-terrorism laws you are so afraid of were introduced by a majority Liberal government, not the Conservatives. B) Your little darling, Omar Kahdr, comes from a family that should be deported from Canada. Aside from that, he was in US captivity while the Liberals were in power, again with a majority. Not the Conservatives. I don't feel one ounce of pity for him. If pouring gallons of water over his face until he panics and talks saves one NATO soldier, than I don't care. You know what they say about making beds and all that. C) You and I both know those laws aren't targeting people like you and me. When it comes to the anti-terrirism laws, my ancestry gives me a "get out of jail free" card. I ain't worried. D) Public pressure will eventually get the environment taken care of by any government. Regardless of what we (Canada) does, China and India will still continue to pump out carbon into the atmospere at levels that dwarf anything we could ever do. We are a minor contributor to the problem so any solution we come up with will also be minor. Something will get done about the environment eventually, but I'd rather it not be by a party that will in the meantime make my hobby a scapegoat for David Miller's inability to address the gun crime situation being perpetrated by criminals and immigrants in his own city. Regards, Nick
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Steel_Paladin 02:06:52 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1320 posts  Reply |
In response to 'D'. Our domestic responses to particular issues have historically been (when our nation is in the hands of a capable uniter) the basis for international consensus. Pearson in particular was rather adept at projecting Canadian principles outward into the world at large. We may not have been a contributor to a great number of problems in the world at large, but we have historically been a great contributor to a lot of solutions. (Not to mention that we basically earned our nationhood solving a lot of 'problems' the British and French couldn't solve during the first World War - Passchendaele and Vimy Ridge for starters.) Canada has been instrumental in developing some of the noblest multinational institutions and agreements. As of late, especially under Martin's centre-right 'Blue' Liberals and the Harper Conservatives, we have regrettably been instrumental in undermining other valuable multinational agreements. That's not what we're all about. We really need to get back to problem-solving. Let's face it, that's what Canadians do best.
The environment: that's a big problem, and though percentage wise we're not the main contributor to the problem, Canadian history shows that we've got to step up and be the main contributor to the solution. Because that's just what we do. The economy: the solution can be found in reinforcing the foundation of the economy, not in sprinkling more money on the top of it hoping it'll trickle down. Invest in people who have good ideas and help them climb the ladder rather than heaping cash on the people who are already on top. People with good ideas and a bit of money start new businesses and create jobs. People with too much money and no ideas run old businesses and kill jobs when the going is rough. You need to fertilize the soil before you can grow a good crop - same with our economy. Guns: you know what, I really am not worried about law-abiding citizens who have the necessary permits and registrations. It's that aforementioned 95% who buy their unregistered guns from smugglers who bring them in from the US who worry me. Crack down on gun-running, not on legal and responsible gun owners. Sounds good to me. Terrorism: respect the Charter. The Charter is what separates reasonable nations like ours from religious despots like theirs. If you want certain sensitive details kept out of the papers, our justice system has adequate mechanisms to do just that - publication bans come to mind. There's no excuse to send someone out of the country to be tortured somewhere else. There's no excuse to charge someone with a criminal offence, and then not disclose the evidence against them. None. There is no reason to violate Section 12 of the Charter when conducting criminal proceedings. These are the basics. As long as our government does it LEGALLY, I have no problem with them going after those individuals who would harm our country. As soon as we start violating our own laws, and denying people basic human rights as enumerated by the law to end all laws (the Charter), then we start flirting with the same sort of tyrrany we're fighting against. Afghanistan: fight smart, not hard. Protest moves that are contrary to our interests on the ground. The US war on opium farmers simply deprives people of their livelihood and drives them into the arms of the Taliban. Get the farmers to sell their opium to pharmaceutical companies, not gangsters. Don't just sack their fields and drive them from their homes. That's just stupid. As far as the duration of the deployment, we really should start training the Afghans to take some responsibility for their own security, and we shouldn't leave until they can guarantee the safety of their own people or reconstruction workers. But, we should leave as soon as they're ready to handle things on their own, and we should work towards making them ready as soon as possible. So there it is. I just blew my political opinion load on the eve of Election Day. Happy voting. Remember your "ABC's"!
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Orbital101 02:10:58 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 8698 posts
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I'm voting according to the candidate's stand on Shuriken Catapults.
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Giguerem 02:14:10 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1140 posts
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Nick, I removed my post so as to avoid inflaming this thread. You and I have had this argument before, and I wrote it quickly and kinda "forgot" where I was. So to avoid any unwanted ka-blouie, I move a copy to the off topic board, feel free to copy yours there and then continue the argument there (or not). I don't want anything to go bad here.
I do stand by my position: guns laws are low priority and any law we pass will be undermined by easy-access guns south of the border and the fact that the border is porous, especially in the US to Canada direction. Enough of this, let's go vote!
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Giguerem 02:18:52 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1140 posts
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Would kinda be funny to put that question into a "mini-interview" just to see the reactions... So, Mr.Harper, what is your stance on THAC0 versus the linear bonuses of the D20 system and how can we reconcile the two? I'd pay good money for the "WHA?!?!" look.... 
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Feor 03:16:37 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 368 posts  Reply |
Wha look? for all Harpers other (multitudinous) flaws, he's a pretty good politician, he'd pull some out of his posterior that'd have you believe his government had 14 panels steady on it since 3rd came out and was meer months away from a permanent solution... provided he manages to stay in government. 
So we should vote for the party that full of sh... never mind, I'd just get myself in trouble.  |
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Threepwood 04:00:03 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1505 posts WAAAAGH!  Reply |
Ah, see, my opinions on this election is that it will pay my rent next month.
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ebiniser 10:45:35 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 847 posts  Reply |
I thought Canadians were best at letting others trample over them and not standing up for themselves 
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HanNEggs 13:53:16 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 227 posts  Reply |
You and I both know those laws aren't targeting people like you and me. When it comes to the anti-terrirism laws, my ancestry gives me a "get out of jail free" card. I ain't worried.
When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I was not a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. --- 
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Giguerem 14:16:56 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1140 posts
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An old one but a good one. The whole thing is true too. Today, it is the "evil Muslims", yesterday, it was the evil communists. Tomorrow, it might be the evil wargammers. Stranger things have happened. I mean, come on, Games Workshop has LOWERED prices...
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GreatHenshini 15:02:00 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 2707 posts
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Here's a fun little game I found to help you out if you're undecided, or to see if you really do agree with your chosen party the most.
http://www3.thestar.com/static/election/quiz/index.html
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CRC 15:55:46 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1092 posts
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Stupid first-past-the-post system.
Is this not clearly the place for approval voting? All they had to do was use check boxes as opposed to radio boxes. That way I could tick off all the options I think are suitable responses for each question.
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Starks333 17:41:14 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 875 posts  Reply |
im just curious why everyone gets so heated about voting and politics...it doesnt really matter who you vote for, you always vote to benefit yourself and in turn it screws others
the end as for voting, i dont vote, i really never will as i dont really care what they change or do as in the end it doesnt make a large enough difference taxes up or down, all it requires is adjustment and then lives return to normal(except in the US where its actually legal to not pay your personal income taxes hahahah i should live there...) education and health care in canada are ridiculous topics...environment as well so in the end what is there really to vote for outside of "who is gonna make me the richest?" (and in case you read this wrong, i am not promoting greed or supporting money above all else...actually im the opposite :P)
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GreatHenshini 17:52:46 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 2707 posts
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I always thought it was more of a "who will I regret the least?"
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Giguerem 17:54:25 Tue Oct 14 2008 Offline 1140 posts
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...I'm actually speechless....I cannot find a way to express the sheer wrongness of that attitude....I'm at a loss....  I mean....everyone for himself 'cause nothing else matters.... education and health care don't matter?!?! because these two areas are the two largest expenses for the all gov'ts in Canada and are some of the most defining things about our national policies, especially when compared to the US, our nearest neighbor... dude, you're 17 or 18 right? I mean, you HAVE to be a teenager with that kind of outlook.... and a spoiled one at that...
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