Metric vs. Whatever it's called
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HBlast
12:46:42 Sat
Aug 23 2003
Metric vs. Whatever it's called
ok, this is basically a request... if anyone knows any conversion formula's please post them here...

I'm referring to:
KM-Miles
Feet-Cm
Celsius-Fahrenheat (:tongue:)

I think everyone can use that in their campaign specifics...
(I know I can... Km and Miles on maps are huge differences)

Guest [Unregistered]
13:30:14 Sat
Aug 23 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
One mile is 1.6 KM. 3 foot is 90 CM.

Caend
15:27:27 Sat
Aug 23 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Who be the guest? And why can guests post again?

Kokiriaz
15:53:14 Sat
Aug 23 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Prolly because it's a new forum. And it was me.

MRDOD
15:59:51 Sat
Aug 23 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Kelvan to Celsius is approx C+273.15=K

Farenheight to Celsius is approx (C-32)/1.8
Celsius to Farenheight is approx F*1.8+32

Mistress_of_Des
18:12:23 Sat
Aug 23 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Grmbl... I'll see what I can de about the guest-posting...

You know, kinda scary when a tv show character says it's 80 degrees. I always need to think before I realise he's talking about Farenheit...

Lilly_the_shapeshifter
02:12:28 Sun
Aug 24 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Okay conversions I know off the top of my head:
25 C~ room temp
30cm~ 1 ft
5280ft=1 mi

Okay and that is all I can think of off the top of my head (and I am a biology major, oh no!)

Absentminded_Wizard
09:46:46 Wed
Aug 27 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
MRDOD, I think you switched the letters in your formulas. They should read:

(F-32)/1.8

and

C*1.8 + 32.

To convert Kms directly to miles, the formula would be miles=kilometers x 0.6.

And the "other" system is known as the English system, though the English don't even use it any more.

Fuzzy_Necromanc
14:37:40 Wed
Aug 27 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
I believe the "other" system is known as imperial.

MRDOD
20:13:21 Wed
Aug 27 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Carp. I always get those formulae mixed up.

Absentminded_Wizard
00:55:38 Thu
Aug 28 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Quote: Fuzzy

I believe the "other" system is known as imperial.


I never heard that before, but it's possible that they've changed the name in the last decade. After all, it's odd to have an "English" system that isn't used by the English.

MRDOD
19:42:31 Thu
Aug 28 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
I call it States measurements, versus Metric.

[By the way, I'm trying to learn Metric's prefixes... does anyone have list?]

Lilly_the_shapeshifter
17:37:58 Fri
Aug 29 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
milli= 1x10^-3
centi= 1x10^-2
deci= 1x10^-1
kilo= 1x10^3
picca= 1x10^-12
nano= 1x10^-9
Micro= 1x10^-6
Femto= 1x10^-15
Mega= 1x10^6
Giga= 1x10^9

Yay for chemistry books!

MRDOD
20:05:43 Fri
Aug 29 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Isn't there Hecto- 1E2 ? and Deka- 1E1? and Iso- 1E0? and Tera- 1E12... yeah, and Peta- 1E15... and was it Exo-1E17?

MRDOD
20:08:48 Fri
Aug 29 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Oh, and my textbook, in the "Metric" part that comes before the actual Physical Science stuff, calls it "The archaic measuring system ... Linear Measurement ..."

HBlast
21:29:34 Fri
Aug 29 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Code:

mili    0.001
centi  0.01
deci   0.1
          1
deca  10
hecto 100
kilo     1000

applicable before "Meter, Liter... probably stuff I forget..."

and I suppose Lilly is right... Picca? didn't know THAT one...

Celsius is based on the basic building block of life: Water...
0 degrees C     = melting point of Ice
100 degrees C = boiling point of Water

18 degrees C = room temperature in our house... though might be on the chilly side...
30 degrees C = WAY too fricking hot outside... for me that is...
40 degrees C = Tropical temperatures... I'm done...


just a little addition...
I added how Celcius temperatures FEEL, just so that you know more or less how it'll feel at certain temps...

on the other hand... I've heard of some guy in Spain who had a sweater on and was STILL cold at 35 degrees C EASILY... lemme tell ya, if *I* were to do that... I'd burn up and die...
so it's not a failproof standard... but it's just so you Americans know more or less why I always say "WHAT THE FRAG???" when I see that a SAFETY spell causes the temperature to go to 72 degrees... (80 degrees to us Europeans is the point where eggs start to go hard)

MRDOD
00:58:49 Sat
Aug 30 2003
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Got it now, including some really strange ones. Bogus Names are apparently common (or at least partially common) myths about them.

Unnamed- 1E33 (Bogus Name- Una-) (Decillion?)**
Unnamed- 1E30 (Bogus Name- Dea-) (Nonillion?)**
Unnamed- 1E27 (Bogus Name- Nea-) (Octillion?)*
Yotta/Yota- 1E24 (Bogus Name- Otta-) (Septillion?)
Zetta/Zeta- 1E21 (Bogus Name- Hepa-) (Sextillion?)
Exa- 1E18 (Quintillion)
Peta- 1E15 (Quadrillion)
Tera- 1E12 (Trillion) (Obsolete- Megamega)
Giga- 1E9 (Billion) (Obsolete- Kilomega)
Mega- 1E6 (Million)
Unnamed- 1E5 (Hundred Thousand) (Obsolete- hectokilo)
Unnamed- 1E4 (Ten Thousand) (Obsolete- Myria)
Kilo- 1E3 (Thousand)
Hecto- 1E2 (Hundred)
Deka/Deca- 1E1 (Ten)
Basic Unit- 1E0 (One) (Partially Obsolete- Iso)
Deci- 1E-1 (Tenth)
Centi- 1E-2 (Hundredth)
Milli- 1E-3 (Thousandth)
Unnamed- 1E-4 (Ten Thousandth) (Obsolete- Dimi/Decimilli)
Unnamed- 1E-5 (Hundred Thousandth) (Obsolete- Centimilli)
Micro- 1E-6 (Millionth)
Nano- 1E-9 (Billionth) (Obsolete- Millimicro)
Pico- 1E-12 (Trillionth) (Obsolete- Micromicro)
Femto- 1E-15 (Quadrillionth)
Atto- 1E-18 (Quintillionth)
Zepto- 1E-21 (Sextillionth?) (Bogus Name- Ento)
Yocto/Yokto- 1E-24 (Septillionth?)*\ (Bogus Name- Fito)
Unnamed- 1E-27 (Octillionth?)** (Bogus name- Syto)
Unnamed- 1E-30 (Nonillionth?)** (Bogus name- Tredo)
Unnamed- 1E-33 (Decillionth?)** (Bogus name- Revo)

*Partially accepted as Official at these points and (above/below)
** Based upon derivation of other prefixes.
-----------------------------
So... 1E-33 (The so called Revometer) is... 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001 ? I think that's right. Why the frell would anyone need something that small? No wonder why no one bothers making anything too big or too small an official prefix... and yet they bothered with Yottameter. Why?

And the supposedly called Yotameter is 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 meters? That's 100 Quadrillion Football Fields, approximately! Lesse.. An AU is 150 000 000 000 M... so a Yottameter is 6.6E12 AU!

No wonder no one needs units that big... Holy carp! The so called Yottameter spans the distance from earth and back 330000000000 times!

So a Yottameter is 10526315.8 Light Years in length. IE: A Yottameter overshoots Andromeda by 5 times!

EDIT- Or is it 105263158.0 Light Years? let me retry?

"We're gonna need a bigger boat"!

By the time you worked up to 1E27m, wouldn't it be bigger than the known universe, if not the universe itself?

Lesse some perspective on those numbers using Seconds..
10 Yoktoseconds- the lfiespan of a very unstable particle
0.1 Zeptosecond- the minimum lifespan of known raidioactive elements
1 Microsecond- the lifespan of a Muon
1 (Iso)Second- the average time between heartbeats of a human
100 Kiloseconds- 1 day
30 Megaseconds- 1 year
2 Gigaseconds- The lifespan of the average human being.
0.1 Terasecond- Recorded History
0.1 Petasecond- Humankind, including hominids
0.1 Exasecond- Life on Earth
1 Exasecond- The Universe

Makes you wonder why we'd ever need Exa... let alone Yotta.


Absentminded_Wizard
07:27:15 Sat
Aug 30 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Quote: Hblast

Celsius is based on the basic building block of life: Water...


So is Fahrenheit, at least partially. The difference was that Celcius used the freezing and boiling points of pure water as 0 degrees and 100 degrees in his scale, while Fahrenheit used the freezing point of extremely salty water as the zero point of his. (I'm not sure how Fahrenheit decided the size of his degrees.)

One easy way to make the difference between Fahrenheit and Celcius clear to Americans is to point out that the average human body temperature--which most Americans know is 98.6 F--is 37 degrees C. I found that out in 8th grade when I had my appendix removed at a hospital that used Celcius thermometers.

My greatest moment of confusion about the two systems was caused by music. The old Midnight Oil song "Beds Are Burning" has a line about how things "steam at 45 degrees." This made no sense to me until I realized that Australia's on the metric system.

HBlast
08:24:31 Sat
Aug 30 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
freezing point of extremely salty water???

I was told that Fahrenheit based his 0 degrees on the lowest temperature obtained in a lab at the time he made his scale...

MRDOD
17:41:33 Sat
Aug 30 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Farenheight zero is the freezing point of half salt, half water. IIRC.

Absentminded_Wizard
08:46:45 Mon
Sep 1 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
I just did a Google search on the Fahrenheit temperature scale. His zero point was based on the freezing point of a half-water, half-salt mixture. This was the lowest temperature he could produce in a lab at the time.

I also found out that the current size of Fahrenheit degrees wasn't established until after Fahrenheit's death. He originally established the high point of his scale as his wife's body temperature, which he called 96 degrees.* After his death, a group of scientists set the boiling point of pure water as the high end. They called it 212 degrees so that the difference between the freezing and boiling points of water would be exactly 180 degrees. The combination of this slight recalibration and errors in Fahrenheit's original measurements resulted in average human body temperature being modified to 98.6 degrees.

At least, that's what I could pull together from several different accounts, some of which varied on certain details.

*He had originally divided his scale into twelve units, and then multiplied the number of units as he refined his measuring techniques. 96 is 12 x 8.

Caend
14:46:26 Mon
Sep 1 2003
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That's an interesting bit of history. Kinda weird. I'll have to commit it to memory so I can recite it at random times and people will ask me stuff like "Really?" and "Is that true?"

Kokiriaz
18:32:28 Mon
Sep 1 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Must... Memorize... Everything... Must be nerdy in calculating everything in seconds...

Quote: MRDOD

No wonder why no one bothers making anything too big or too small an official prefix... and yet they bothered with Yottameter. Why?


I can give you the awnser! Because people want to be nerdy and be able to say they have lived for exactly 0.0000000000000000000000023689372161 Yottaseconds! Just like me! :biggrin:

(As a note, I didn't calculate that. So don't use that as a base to say I'm 3947 years old or anything.)

Medesha
16:18:51 Wed
Sep 3 2003
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I've always called it Imperial, fwiw.

Caend
21:49:08 Wed
Sep 3 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Quote: MRDOD at 17:41:33 Sat Aug 30 2003

Farenheight zero is the freezing point of half salt, half water. IIRC.


Do you have a source for that? My bio techer doesn't believe me.

Absentminded_Wizard
07:57:57 Thu
Sep 4 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
I've got a link right here, from Encyclopedia Britannica online. Apparently, I misread it. It was an ice-salt mixture.

http://search.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=34156&tocid=0&query=fahrenheit%20451&ct=

FrankTrollman
00:08:53 Fri
Sep 12 2003
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As to why you would want a prefix for 10^21, I've got one word for you:

Mass.


Remember, an object's mass increases (or decreases) to the cube of ithe increase (or decrease) in its length.

So, while a a cubic centimeter of water has a mass of 1 gram, a cubic megameter of water has a mass of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 grams.

That's why.

And a cubic megameter of water isn't all that much - from an astronomical standpoint.

-Frank

Mistress_of_Des
10:17:32 Fri
Sep 12 2003
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Useful site to calculate the temperature. [152 clicks]

Useful site to calculate distance. [171 clicks]

Another useful site, but with more info than only miles and kilometers. [235 clicks]

Owyeah...

Caend
10:22:21 Fri
Sep 12 2003
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
My scientific calculator does all these conrverions for me.

Javis
11:21:56 Fri
Dec 31 2004
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
I live in a metric and decimal country so here goes..
Ok 10 mm in a cm 60 cm in a foot 100 cm in a meter 1000 meters in a kilometer.

so 600 mm in a foot 1000 mm in a meter and 10000 mm in a kilometer

Javis
11:23:14 Fri
Dec 31 2004
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Oh as soon as I get an exercise book i can do more..

DAMN! i pulled an Alhadis!:sad:

Javis
11:42:02 Fri
Dec 31 2004
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Got one!

1 foot (60cm, 600millimeters) =12 inches
1 yard = 3 feet (210 cm, 2100millimeters)
1 mile = 1760 yards (5280 feet, 316800 cm's, 3168000millimeters)


Weight
1 kilogram = 2.205 lbs (1000.188 gramms)

1 ton = 1000 kg = 453.51473 lbs = 99981.201 gramms = 28323286 oz.

1 pound = 16 ounces = 4536 gramms

Hope it helps! i'll come back with more!

Javis
11:45:47 Fri
Dec 31 2004
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Why do you want to know?

Javis
11:46:12 Fri
Dec 31 2004
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
I want to know why you want to know


MRDOD
18:41:22 Fri
Dec 31 2004
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HBlast wanted to know a year ago, Javid- I'm sure he hasn/t read this ever again. Check the post dates.

Though, privately, if HBlast did post at all... *grumble*

At this rate I'll be Spam Demon without any Spam. The shame!

Quetzi_the_Conquistador
23:27:45 Fri
Dec 31 2004
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Bwaha! I am the spiced ham devil! Die foul demon! The blood feud will be over!

*whips out a dead pig, which was hollowed out and filled with curry and cayenne*

Ph34r my spicy ham!

Javis
04:13:19 Sat
Jan 1 2005
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Im only mass posting in various threds to get my count up.... im sure someone could use this *snif* Hey! whys did he post this in forgoten universes anyhow?

Quetzi_the_Conquistador
06:43:51 Sun
Jan 2 2005
Re: Metric vs. Whatever it's called
Because people were using imperial system in their posts, and other were using metric. It was useful at the time.

Oh, and as much as we condone spam here, that's usually restricted to other forums. Like the CoL. Do something fun there.



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