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    More questions than answers ( 15:33:19 TueAug 24 2004 )

    This past weekend I learned more about my husbands deceptions. I guess I'm not surprised but it leaves me wondering how much I can take. Where do I draw the line and say thats it! I simply cannot take any more

    A summary of the latest. My husband lists an MS on his resume from a fairly glitzy school. To make a long story short that's not quite the case. It seems he completed the coursework but never got around to the thesis. Trust me when I say he has his reasons. Oh God does he have his reasons. Endless and endless reasons, excuses, blame pointed at others.

    By his own admission he figures the fact that he finished the coursework gives him the right to claim the degree. I looked him in the eye and asked if anyone in professional circles has ever raised this little problem. He shrugged his shoulders and answered very nonchatlantly that its never come up. According to him everyone tells these little white lies in the professional world and there is no reason to get uptight. I asked if had any intention of ever completing the degree to which he shook his head no.

    This discussion lead to a fight because I said I was tired of these little surprises that effect my life and livelihood as well as his. He was stunned that I would dream of making such a wild accusation. So there you have it. According to him I am stirring up old skeltons that are better left unearthed. Maybe he is right, but what if some day someone with much less honorable intentions discovers this? Where will that leave not only my husband, but myself and our family?

    I probably agree I don't have a right to know all of his dirty secrets, but it seems there is a certain responsibility to me to be honest on all affairs that effect our survival. What do others think? Am I wrong to request basic info on what's happening in his life?

      
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    Re: More questions than answers ( 16:28:15 TueAug 24 2004 )

    My ex and I have had and continue to have this discussion. I could not and cannot seem to get through to him that decisions he makes do not only effect him. They have an impact on everyone in the family. Now we are separted that is less so, but there are still things he does that has an effect on me and his children and he continues to disregard this fact.

    Sorry I don't have any advice. Just cover your bases as much as you can and try and protect yourself and your children.

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    Re: More questions than answers ( 16:37:06 TueAug 24 2004 )

    Someone once said no man is an island. Maybe they had those of us with this disorder in mind?

    I've seen both sides of this squabble. My wife and I have each been horrible at keeping the other informed on decisions that really do effect the broader family whether or not we care to admit that fact. Like Mel I don't have a brillant solution and I think this was a massive, massive contributor to our divorce. On that happy note I'll exit stage left.

      
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    Re: More questions than answers ( 21:48:09 TueAug 24 2004 )

    I relate to this based on my experience with my narcissistic father. He has denied and avoided pretty much everything over the past couple years, and tried to pretend that his real problems didn't exist, much like your husband. It's driving me and the rest of our family crazy, but I've only got 3 more days here in this house before leaving for college. You don't have such an easy escape, which makes things more complicated.

    I hope you're able to strongly feel your anger and resentment about what he's doing in your relationship. This can strengthen your sense of self. Let your feelings guide you, hopefully to a better place than a relationship with a deceiving, emotionally unavailable man.

    Good luck,

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