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margfj 00:36:00 Sat Jun 21 2003 |
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Fral1234 01:08:34 Sat Jun 21 2003 |
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jysmith 13:01:47 Sat Jun 21 2003 |
The exams to test out of a course are open book just like the other AS exams. If there was something that your dd wasn't quite as familiar with as she thought, she could review the material and then answer the test. My ds had to look up some of the arcane terminology on the English exam and a question about alcholism on the health exam. There was one question on the computer exam that was so ambiguous that even my DH, a certified CISCO network person, couldn't determine what was really being asked. DS guessed and got it right. The problem we ran into with the tests was one of different interpretation of the rules by the old director (Irene Nelson) vs. the new one (Dr. Goldsmith). I had understood from Ms. Nelson that we could have DS test out of up to 8 subjects. Dr. G limited us to 3. She said that the policy of allowing up to 8 tests was for students who were *previously* home-schooled, not for students who were concurrently home schooling. She apparently thinks those tests should be done at the very beginning of the AS studies, not throughout the time it takes a student to complete his/her studies. If you want to test out of 8 subjects, I'd get the approval from Dr. Goldsmith in writing before proceeding much further. HTH Janice |
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lbring 13:31:04 Sat Jun 21 2003 |
How can the exams to test out be "open book" when you don't "get" the books upon requesting to test out? Thanks |
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jysmith 15:22:13 Sat Jun 21 2003 |
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EagleMom 23:47:29 Sat Jun 21 2003 |
We used VideoText Algebra and ds just took the 10 unit tests for AS Algebra 1 and 2. Dh wanted him to have the extra review (he will be going into engineering). We decided that working through the tests would be better than just trying to test out. He ended up just looking up a couple of concepts not covered in VideoText (probability and trig items) and scored very well on all tests. I would think that if you had a good algebra text to refer to, you could try to test out. Biology was another story. When I compared the AS Biology book with Apologia...it seemed that trying to test out would be difficult. The books covered things differently. Maybe if we had tried to test out, it would have been okay. However, ds decided to just use the AS book and supplement with Apologia labs. (my other ds used the AS labs and they were horrible). Ds won't be using the biology as much as chemistry and physics later on, so he was willing to forgo Dr. Wile for one course. He is now back to Apologia and plans to take both chemistry and physics courses. As I said, we have not experienced any difficulties with changes we have made to the AS format. I just send requests in writing. I have also had good luck on the telephone. Best of luck, Nickie |
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margfj 16:35:26 Sun Jun 22 2003 |
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jlg 18:45:29 Mon Jun 23 2003 |
" I hope you could make a suggestion to the most recent post - Choosing Programs, General or College Prep? - that they check with American School about testing out of a course, whether it's done open book. Someone posted a reply that the tests to test out of a course are open book. I was told by more than one person at American School that they are not open book tests." Thank you, Donna, for that information :heart: |
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jysmith 21:39:45 Mon Jun 23 2003 |
This situation seems like one more case of the rules are different depending on when you call and with whom you talk... Janie-- Do you have a recommendation for whom to contact at AS to get the most consistent and reliable info? Janice |
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jlg 23:07:41 Mon Jun 23 2003 |
Janie |
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lbring 12:00:08 Tue Jun 24 2003 |
While the exams are meant to determine knowledge already gained, perhaps (considering AS's view on open book tests) it is not against the "rules" to consult other books/sources while taking the exams to test out? I think that in the sense of having the ability to consult "other" sources of information...some people do consider the exams to test out as "open book". Joyce |