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Ralph_Denison 15:03:04 Sun Oct 28 2012 Offline 448 posts Advanced Member Reply |
With the increasing popularity of the SORC, and I have heard Big Bend as well, I am wondering why no other community in the midwest has not tried to run a orr as well?
With 50 or so would be contestants being turned away, plus all of the veteran road racers out there just looking for a venue, it would seem that someplace, somewhere would give it a try. I don't believe that the SORC could ever be duplicated, the eclectic mix of volunteers, towns people and contestants seem to be pretty unique. And I completely understand how it would be too taxing to try to run 2 SORC's in one year. But, I would think that someplace else might look upon the philanthropic aspects of the venue and wonder...Why not here? 
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pistolpete817 15:54:58 Sun Oct 28 2012 Offline 25 posts Newbie Reply |
Fort Stockton had a fall race, the Road Runner ORR for several years. The problem was getting volunteer help.
There was an attempt at a Marfa to Presidio race a couple of years ago. The organizers got crossways with the land owners along the raod. My friends in Calgary tell me they are trying to organize a race in eastern Alberta. Man that's along way from Texas. |
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cjhans 18:33:07 Sun Oct 28 2012 Offline 26 posts Newbie Reply |
We've lost a number of races over the past few years. When I first got interested in this form of racing there were two organizations in Nevada running several events, the SORC, a race in Roswell NM, and the BBORR.
It seems like the costs and complexity of racing in these events is beginning to increase too. I looked into the September race in Nevada, but it's just too expensive once you add the "membership fee", entry fee, mandatory driver's class fee (held in Vegas - adding additional days, hotels, travel time). As a small business owner I would love to look into establishing a new event, but have no clue about the complexities involved with running an event on public roads (permits, politics, land owners, crossing county lines, state roads vs. county roads, etc). Seems a person would have to spend some time working an established event before starting a new one. There are simply no other venues that allows a driver to run high speeds for several minutes at a time the way you can in open road racing. Standing mile, B-ville, road courses....all pale in comparison for the top speed enthusiast. Several years ago (decades) my home town of Detroit had a group known as the Top Ender's club. They would meet in the early morning hours to run sections of interstate at high speeds. Sadly, getting caught in that sort of activity these days is likely to end up with the loss of your vehicle, your license, and a being slapped with a felony speeding violation. Hopefully, we will see more open road races so people don't end up getting themselves into some serious trouble after getting all revved up watching shows profiling open road racing on TV. |
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Charlie_Friend 03:56:45 Mon Oct 29 2012 Offline 30 posts Newbie Reply |
I started participating in ORR in 1997 after I retired. Well, I didn't retire on purpose, my full time job went away. Anyway, as of this past september, I have run 90 ORRs. Right now there are only four ORRs a year. The BBORR, the SORC and two SSCC events. In the early 2000s, there were nine (yes nine ORRs) one year, including an event in Ensenada, Mexico. Vicki and I made all of them.
OK, now you may not believe this, but they all went away because of lack of participation. Each event requires a certain number of participants to cover their costs or they lose money. MKM ran three events in Nevada, Battle Mountain, Elko and Wendover. They went away one by one for various reasons but the main reason was not enough entries. The SSCC ran a third event for a couple of years out of Eureka, NV. Not enough cars showed up to justify the event. It went away. The BBORR ran a second event for a few years in the fall on a different road. There were other problems, but participation was light. It went away. A lot of people do not have the time or cash to run more than a few events a year. They have jobs and have to arrange time off and may lose money by absence from work besides the ORR cost, which can be pretty high after entry fees, travel gas, motels, etc, etc. Of course, the economy the last several years has not helped things either. But, as Pogo would say, "we have seen the enemy, and he is us". The SORC and the BBORR are only two events that now sell out big time. If there was more participation in ORR at other venues, there would be more ORRs. |
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Ruslow 17:33:57 Mon Oct 29 2012 Offline 14 posts Newbie Reply |
I looked into running an event in NV a few years ago when I had a few friends that needed to lose BIG money.Read tax write off.I don't know about events held outside of NV but NV is by far the easiest state to work with,since most of the land in the more rural areas is BLM so not to many land owners to deal with.and since you have to basicly have their blessing to close the road you can only imagine how tough it is to get 50 owners to agree.Basicly to break even it would take 50 participants paying an average of $500 ea.since you have to havve course workers, radios, flags, timing,and then personel to get the forms together when they are received and numbers and such.That cost is on top of the inital cost of radios,[non consumables] stuff.NOT cheap to do.So when you say the cost is to much to run in the western states THESE are the reasons no one will step up and organize one in the mid states.You first have to have a state that is friendly towards this type of venue,[and hiway patrol are NOT] then get a town or towns onboard then the land owners then the county judges then the DOT and so on.Stan
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Ruslow 17:42:17 Mon Oct 29 2012 Offline 14 posts Newbie Reply |
I to remember running 7 events a year for 2 or 3 years.Alot of fun but after a few events the numbers started dropping.I remember hearing people asking for a second TX event and how they would show up for it.then when it happened I think there were something like 54 that did show up.Talk is cheap action is required to fulfill the talk.Stan
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