Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 ms)
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Sergey_new_pcb
09:16:48 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 ms)
Greetings Gentlemen.

Please welcome the board ver.3 (Sergey's board - 2).





What it inherits from the previous design:
1. The same size and controls positions.
2. Power supply range (9-24 V).
3. Drozd/backbird compatibility.

What's new:
1. ROF: 400-600-800-1000-1200-1400-1600-1800-2000.
2. Mag voltage is controlled with a jumper (see below).
3. Better transistor in mag control circuit.
4. Pulse: 4-12 mS.
5. It's $10 cheaper (no need for DC-DC converter).

Here's the ideology behind the design changes: let's say good bye to DC-DC converter, we don't need it any more. Originally, it was implemented because we needed to lower mag voltage from 24 to 9 volts with minimum losses. DC-DC converters are efficient when there is significant difference between input and output voltages. But then I had to increase its output voltage from 9 to 14 volts (so in-out difference was reduced). Now, achieving higher ROFs requires further voltage increase, plus higher voltage applied to the mag means the converter has to supply more current. This would mean less efficient and more bulky DC-DC converter. The processor and LED display draw only 5-12 mA so a simple linear voltage regulator can supply them with all they need. As for the mag, you have three options now:

1. If your batteries voltage is below 17.5 volts you can put the jumper in the position closer to the mag connector (there are two positions available, see the photo below). This means the mag voltage regulator is bypassed and all batteries voltage is applied to mag motor. The actual RPM you'll be able to achieve in this mode depends on your batteries voltage.

2. If your batteries voltage exceeds 17.5 volts and the jumper is in the position closer to the display, mag voltage is limited to 15 volts. This mode is safe for Blackbird-type magazines. The actual RPM you'll be able to achieve depends on your mag type and condition, let's wait for users feedback. If your batteries voltage is above 20 volts please check the linear regulator temperature after 3-5 minutes of intense shooting. If you tend to use 20-24 V batteries and a mag requiring much current, you may need to mount a heatsink on the part, there is enough space for it.

3. If you want to achieve maximum RPM, just move the jumper to the position closer to the mag connector. All batteries voltage is applied to your mag now. The new transistor on the board can cope with increased current. No need to check voltage regulator temperature in this mode.

Here's the jumper location:



It's possible to use three wires to connect an external switch to the plugs on the board and use it instead of the jumper.

As I don't need to make DC-DC converter any more, the new board price is reduced to USD 120.

Here's my contact info:
E-mail: e-go@inbox.ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-950-177-2500.

Yours,
Sergey Pismensky.


camracer
10:26:28 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Fantastic work Sergey, put me down on your list I'll buy one very soon! Just gotta get some cash coming into my business for the season. Looks like CB #3 is going to be a real winner!!! ---Cam

camracer
10:49:58 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Forgot to ask: With the higher 2000 rpm mode The Blackbird may require a better motor. And since were breaking ground here, we may have to do the capacitor mod I had to do to prevent the "run-away" motor issue I had on my prototype. Is there anything that you have done to the new CB that can prevent that? ...Or just do a capacitor mod as needed only? ---Cam

Tbkahuna
11:56:47 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey,

That is great! I can't wait to put one into use.

With the Nichibo motor we are using in the new electric mags, I will get over 2500 rpm at the auger. That should be able to feed sustained fire at 2000 rpm.

The same motor with a different wind should do over 4000 rpm at the auger. It looks like everything is lining up for this to be a successful new chapter in air machineguns!

Let me know when you will be ready to ship one and I'll send the money.

Thanks for putting this together, Sergey!

TBK

Sergey_new_pcb
11:59:40 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

we may have to do the capacitor mod I had to do to prevent the "run-away" motor issue I had on my prototype

We don't know yet if it's necessary. The voltage regulator on the new board can supply more current than the old DC-DC converter so there won't be bad voltage drop when motor starts up. If it's a matter of voltage spikes generated by the motor, the mag (not the board) will need mods - a small ceramic capacitor should be soldered to motor terminals.

Sergey_new_pcb
12:21:30 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

Let me know when you will be ready to ship one

How about this one?



When I become famous you'll show this #1 board to journalists. :smile:

Tbkahuna
12:26:36 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm ready!

I made the payment for the smaller board yesterday and will send the payment for this board today.

There is nothing like getting new toys!!

Thanks,

TBK


drozdandconfused
13:52:33 Thu
Apr 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Excellent work Sergey. I think you nailed it by spacing out the ROF 4-6-8-etc. The new mag linear voltage regulator (15V) or jumper is a great set up similar to what I'm using now. I really like the idea of adding an external switch to toggle between the two settings. Can't wait to see video of 2000 rpm BB with the new TB Kam Hi-Cap mag feeding it!!!

Cheerz

camracer
00:16:53 Fri
Apr 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I call circuit board #3 For me Sergey! TBK beat me to the punch for #2!
Ready to send you payment! ---Cam

camracer
00:22:07 Fri
Apr 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 11:59:40 Thu Apr 14 2011

Quote:

we may have to do the capacitor mod I had to do to prevent the "run-away" motor issue I had on my prototype

We don't know yet if it's necessary. The voltage regulator on the new board can supply more current than the old DC-DC converter so there won't be bad voltage drop when motor starts up. If it's a matter of voltage spikes generated by the motor, the mag (not the board) will need mods - a small ceramic capacitor should be soldered to motor terminals.


Ok, That's good news Sergey. Easy to do!

Tbkahuna
00:25:17 Fri
Apr 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm getting number 1! Now I just need to wait for Sergey to become even more famous.

I want to use the switch for voltage change and may remote the on/off too.

I'm doing some more testing in anticipation of 2000 rpm.

TBK

DUBB
09:24:39 Fri
Apr 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 12:21:30 Thu Apr 14 2011

Quote:

Let me know when you will be ready to ship one

How about this one?



When I become famous you'll show this #1 board to journalists. :smile:
Don't say that, bad luck. The way I think it works is that you don't get famous until you die. In the meanwhile you live your life in poverty, then you die, and get famous. Then everyone who screwed you while you were alive gets richer than stink off of your accomplishments. At least that's how it seems to work in America.
I'm ready for one of these, or I will be in a couple of weeks. I sorta spent my wad for the week, before you made your announcement. Count me in for sure, though, 2000 rpm? Gotta have it.........

camracer
10:28:39 Fri
Apr 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 00:25:17 Fri Apr 15 2011

I'm getting number 1! Now I just need to wait for Sergey to become even more famous.

I want to use the switch for voltage change and may remote the on/off too.

I'm doing some more testing in anticipation of 2000 rpm.

TBK


Sergey said I get #2! Sending payment today. ---Cam

Tbkahuna
02:06:39 Sat
Apr 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hopefully it won't take too long to get the new boards across the pond. Then let the fun begin!

TBK





camracer
13:41:48 Sat
Apr 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Wooooo HOOOOO!!!! :rotflmao:

Sergey_new_pcb
20:09:16 Wed
Apr 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The boards #1, #2 and #3 are on the way to Texas, Connecticut and Wisconsin.

Tbkahuna
21:34:03 Wed
Apr 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm waiting by the door!

TBK

camracer
10:33:23 Thu
Apr 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Oh Boy!, OH BOY!! :tongue:

Sergey_new_pcb
14:40:24 Sat
Apr 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
#4 board is on the way to Massachusetts.

camracer
18:47:03 Sat
Apr 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 14:40:24 Sat Apr 23 2011

#4 board is on the way to Massachusetts.


SonyTec.......?:tongue:

SONYtec
02:52:03 Sun
Apr 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 18:47:03 Sat Apr 23 2011

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 14:40:24 Sat Apr 23 2011

#4 board is on the way to Massachusetts.


SonyTec.......?:tongue:


Nope.

But just as curious as to bought it. :rolleyes:

Tbkahuna
06:36:39 Sun
Apr 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I was waiting to see one headed to Vegas!

camracer
14:43:59 Sun
Apr 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 02:52:03 Sun Apr 24 2011

Quote: camracer at 18:47:03 Sat Apr 23 2011

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 14:40:24 Sat Apr 23 2011

#4 board is on the way to Massachusetts.


SonyTec.......?:tongue:


Nope.

But just as curious as to bought it. :rolleyes:


A new member who joined in early March (audiobill5) lives just south of Boston. ....?

DUBB
19:39:01 Mon
Apr 25 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You'll have my money on Friday, since I have to go there then, anyway, to cash a check, so that's just completely convenient for me. I'll email you (Sergy) when I get home, and it's sent, to confirm that for you.
Gotta have it.

Thanks, again, Sergy, BTW, for taking the time to redesign everything for us. It looks like these are selling pretty well, though, I hope it was worth all the time and effort you must have put into it. I know I can't wait to buy mine. We know you have bills to pay, like everyone else does, I hope this helps.

And thanks to everyone else who just had to have one, for making it worth Sergy's work to do. If not for your interest convincing Sergy to do it, I wouldn't be getting mine, now would I? I love this forum.

camracer
00:22:04 Tue
Apr 26 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well, You and everyone else should know..... There should be a new video coming out soon! :rotflmao: But be warned, we are pushing limits that have NEVER been seen for the Drozd. We will need to work out the bugs, and re-engineer stuff! But what a place to do it!!! We have a bunch of very talented folks here!!!!! :smash: What a fun year this is going to be! You guys are great!! ---Cam

SONYtec
02:46:05 Tue
Apr 26 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 14:43:59 Sun Apr 24 2011

Quote: SONYtec at 02:52:03 Sun Apr 24 2011

Quote: camracer at 18:47:03 Sat Apr 23 2011

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 14:40:24 Sat Apr 23 2011

#4 board is on the way to Massachusetts.


SonyTec.......?:tongue:


Nope.

But just as curious as to bought it. :rolleyes:


A new member who joined in early March (audiobill5) lives just south of Boston. ....?


Ok, no posts from him? :rolleyes:

DUBB
03:55:29 Tue
Apr 26 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 00:22:04 Tue Apr 26 2011

Well, You and everyone else should know..... There should be a new video coming out soon! :rotflmao: But be warned, we are pushing limits that have NEVER been seen for the Drozd. We will need to work out the bugs, and re-engineer stuff! But what a place to do it!!! We have a bunch of very talented folks here!!!!! :smash: What a fun year this is going to be! You guys are great!! ---Cam
No doubt. I was thinking that 2000 rpm is up there with the Dillon Aero minigun. In fact, I'm thinking that we have breached the deffinition barrier of "BB Machinegun", and this might be the beginning of the new "BB 'Burp' Gun" category.
"Buuuurrrrpp"

camracer
10:08:06 Tue
Apr 26 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It'll, for sure, be an interesting new sound signature for the Drozd! Can't wait to hear it! :tongue:

SONYtec
15:04:53 Thu
Apr 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The mini-gun will do 2000 - 6000 rounds per minute. They are usually set for 3000 rpm.

camracer
00:04:23 Fri
Apr 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I can't even IMAGINE a drozd at 6000 rpm!!!! That's sooo wrong, but right at the same time! ....I'm soooo confused...

Evolution, ....... It just takes time! :smash:

radical
00:47:14 Fri
Apr 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The Weapon
Imagine a gun with no recoil, no sound, no heat, no gunpowder, no visible firing signature (muzzle flash), and no stoppages or jams of any kind. Now imagine that this gun could fire .308 caliber and .50 caliber metal projectiles accurately at up to 8,000 fps (feet-per-second), featured an infinitely variable/programmable cyclic rate-of-fire (as high as 120,000 rounds-per-minute), and were capable of laying down a 360-degree field of fire. What if you could mount this weapon on any military Humvee (HMMWV), any helicopter/gunship, any armored personnel carrier (APC), and any other vehicle for which the technology were applicable?
That would really be something, wouldn’t it? Some of you might be wondering, “how big would it be”, or “how much would it weigh”? Others might want to know what it’s ammunition capacity would be. These are all good questions, assuming of course that a weapon like this were actually possible.
According to its inventor, not only is it possible, it’s already happened. An updated version of the weapon will be available soon. It will arrive in the form of a tactically-configured pre-production anti-personnel weapon firing .308 caliber projectiles (accurately) at 2,500-3000 fps, at a variable/programmable cyclic rate of 5,000-120,000 rpm (rounds-per-minute). The weapon’s designer/inventor has informed DefRev that future versions of the weapon will be capable of achieving projectile velocities in the 5,000-8,000 fps range with no difficulty. The technology already exists.
The weapon itself is called the DREAD, or Multiple Projectile Delivery System (MPDS),

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS415US416&q=dread+gun

DUBB
20:48:47 Fri
Apr 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Or how about something like a 5000 or 10000 watt pulse laser? That wouldnt have any recoil, would travel at 186,000,000 miles per second, and have an absolutely flat trajectory. I'm hearing something that sounds like a huge photostrobe charging.............
"Dudes, check this out, watch me shoot a huge "anarchy sign" on the moon....."

DUBB
21:08:27 Fri
Apr 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

:rotflmao:
Let's see that punk, Gutsam Borland top THAT! Heh? Heh? Yeah, I'll show ya Mt Rush-My-Ass..! And I did that in just 90 seonds, and one cold pack, howya like that, there Gutsy?

camracer
23:45:53 Fri
Apr 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
HA! HAA!! HAAA!!! I didn't even read your post before I started laughing, DUBB! I just saw the photo and thought, "Now What!" :rotflmao:

DUBB
00:34:18 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I read Rad's post about the ultimate gun of the future, and thought it resembled a laser, and I like lasers, I have a mini laser lab, now. And as soon as I envisioned one, and thought that it would have infinite range, that just popped into my mind. And somehow, the idea of some drunk redneck like me vandalizing the moon was hysterically wrong, I think I might have laughed hard enough to get a hernia, it hurts, now. And there was that show on history about if mankind just disappeared, what would happen to all our stuff, what would remain the longest as archialogical evedence we were here, and we had a winner, the last shot is Earth, about to be consumed by the expanding, red giant sun that already reabsorbed Mercury and Venus, and my tag would still be readable, until the sun reabsorbed the
Earth and the Moon, too. That is ultimate wrong, maybe some kind of record wrong. I wasn't sure if everyone would get it, or not, but that's the funniest thing that I have thought of all year.
BTW Gutsam Boreland was the person who made Mt Rushmore, I thought he would be the most offended by my moon tag, since it would outlast Rushmore, and every living thing on Earth would see it every nite until the sun explodes. That's a monument. (allbeit ugly, offensive, and completely devoid of any artistic value whatsover, and just WRONG)

radical
05:03:39 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
GO TURK 182!!! You da Man!!:lol:

drozdandconfused
16:26:57 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Anyone receive their 2000 rpm board yet? Sergey, how about a test video. I'll bet the digital shot counter will be moving as fast as the $$ counter on the gas pump.:lol:

camracer
17:50:46 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I haven't gotten mine just yet. ...Really need it though, still having electrical issues to work out with my other board. Replacing the transistor wasn't my only issue! SH!T!! Startin' to get Drozd withdrawal. :sad: But at least I can keep busy doing other important mods!! ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
18:56:30 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Shame on you Cam!!! Stop scaring off my customers! Tell them what's happened to your board. Or just send it to me for repair before you damage it completely.

Tbkahuna
22:25:44 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just checked and I have a delivery notice from the USPS. That is probably the mini board. I won't be able to get it until Monday. Soon!

TBK

camracer
23:18:27 Sat
Apr 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 18:56:30 Sat Apr 30 2011

Shame on you Cam!!! Stop scaring off my customers! Tell them what's happened to your board. Or just send it to me for repair before you damage it completely.


I SO publicly apologize Sergey! I would NEVER put down your AMAZING engineering!!!!!! I feel like a real ASSHOLE that my words came out wrong!! I meant to say that It's ABSOLUTELY MY FAULT that I shorted Sergey's board! I'm in the middle of testing for a new prototype magazine and I accidentally crossed the wrong wires.

Sergey's circuit boards work absolutely FLAWLESS!!

I Can't Say better words that Sergey's board is the BEST tech out there ANYWHERE to advance the world of BB machineguns!!!!!!!I cannot say enough about my good friend Sergey!!!!! So sorry! ---Camracer


DUBB
01:20:45 Sun
May 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
When I did the 21v and back into the stock phaze of my "modular mod", I don't know what the hell I did, but my display went out. Mostly, anyway, it flashes randomly, every now and then, but nothing that means anything. The amazing thing is that the board still works 100% othwise, everything works except the led's. And I cannot for the life of me figure out what I could have done wrong to piss it off like that. I intend to send it back to Sergy, not to complain, or anything, but I really want to know how I managed that, and if I were Sergy, I would, too. I just have to work out an arrangement to pay the return shipping, I don't excpect Sergy to fix it, I broke it, and it still works, as-is, I don't care about the display, other than wishing it was blue. But since I found a way to screw something up, which is really hard to do to Sergy's boards, I feel obligated to let him figure out what I did, so he can learn from it. When I get my 2000 rpm board (I get #5!!), I'm sticking the old one back in the box, and sending it back to "it's source", along with return shipping to get it back. It still works, after all.

SONYtec
03:28:47 Sun
May 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:18:27 Sat Apr 30 2011


I Can't Say better words that Sergey's board is the BEST tech out there...


He's not a tech... He's an Engineer. :rolleyes:

camracer
13:57:39 Sun
May 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 01:20:45 Sun May 1 2011

When I did the 21v and back into the stock phaze of my "modular mod", I don't know what the hell I did, but my display went out. Mostly, anyway, it flashes randomly, every now and then, but nothing that means anything. The amazing thing is that the board still works 100% othwise, everything works except the led's. And I cannot for the life of me figure out what I could have done wrong to piss it off like that. I intend to send it back to Sergy, not to complain, or anything, but I really want to know how I managed that, and if I were Sergy, I would, too. I just have to work out an arrangement to pay the return shipping, I don't excpect Sergy to fix it, I broke it, and it still works, as-is, I don't care about the display, other than wishing it was blue. But since I found a way to screw something up, which is really hard to do to Sergy's boards, I feel obligated to let him figure out what I did, so he can learn from it. When I get my 2000 rpm board (I get #5!!), I'm sticking the old one back in the box, and sending it back to "it's source", along with return shipping to get it back. It still works, after all.


Yeah, I'm gonna do the same. I just need to be more sensitive about how I say things here. You all know me. I never, ever mean any disrespect! Especially about Sergey's engineering. His is "world class"!! And I certainly couldn't be more impressed with his amazing circuit board!!

camracer
13:58:57 Sun
May 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 03:28:47 Sun May 1 2011

Quote: camracer at 23:18:27 Sat Apr 30 2011


I Can't Say better words that Sergey's board is the BEST tech out there...


He's not a tech... He's an Engineer. :rolleyes:


Right! There I go again, not thinking!! :rolleyes:

Sergey_new_pcb
18:58:06 Sun
May 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

I don't know what the hell I did, but my display went out. Mostly, anyway, it flashes randomly, every now and then, but nothing that means anything. The amazing thing is that the board still works 100% othwise, everything works except the led's

Send it back to me for repair, I've never heard anything like this before so I'm curious what it can be.

DUBB
01:31:21 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I know exactly how you feel about that. That was my plan, since I am the same way. I had an issue back when I was into installing modchips in Playstation 2's. In the end I was glad to learn that it came down to the chips disabling the read-error stops, and ignorrant users who don't take care of their discs, and weren't smart enough to figure out that if it isn't reading the disc by now, it is never going to, and were willing to wait as long as it took to blow the BA5815FM IC that handled laser function. Good to know, I quit doing them entirely. Other than that, I just like to know how the user screwed it up. Working on computers is all about how the user screwed it up, and finding ways to prevent them, or at least preparing for that eventuality. An ounce of prevention, as they say.
And I really want to know how I did it, too. I did not reverse polarity, I know for sure, since I appearantly did once, and had to replace that diode you put there to protect it from that, and I went over everything I could, and never found any clues. It's bugging me.

SONYtec
03:44:39 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB,

Check for bad solder connections. It is the easiest thing to start with.

DUBB
05:10:39 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I did all that, already. I went over them all with the wirebrush on my dremmel tool, which also ensured it wasn't solder splatter from anything I did, which was nothing more than wires to replace the battery contacts, and 2 more to the jack for the mag. But whatever it did, was done, already, I was just looking for culprits, after the fact. I didn't really find anything. Sergy's soldering and his work in general, is top of the line, and flawless. Although everyone who is human, by deffinition, makes mistakes, Sergy's are in all likelyhood, extrememly few and far between. I made a mistake myself, once. Having 3 different jobs to do on identical cars, I accidently did a brake job on the wrong one, and ate it. I still came out ahead that day, and even on that car, since the lavor was more than te parts were, and car that got free brakes didn't care too much. I just had too damn many Honda Accords in front of me that day, and I was in a hurry to get them done, is all. It happens, but rarely. That was the only time. Few and far between.
I hate Honda Accords. I thought that the Sarurn SL2 was a much better car, and for a lot less money, and had the benefiet of NOT being the most likely car to be stolen, in America. #2 is a Toyota truck, if you were wondering. People want what they think everyone else wants, or has, and don't know nearly as much about cars as I do, since I made my living working on them, or they would all want Saturns, instead. MUCH better car, and more reliable, too.

Sergey_new_pcb
11:45:36 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dubb, there is a small resistor on the bottom side of the board, try to re-solder it (both ends) or replace it with another 1206 or 0805 5-30 kOhm resistor. If you don't have SMD resistors or don't feel comfortable soldring those small parts solder a non-SMD resistor in parallel with SMD one and see if there is any difference in display behaviour.

Sergey_new_pcb
12:04:00 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Also, try to re-solder pin 2 of the microcontroller. You'll need a soldering iron with really sharp tip. If it's a difficult task for you just send the board to me, I'll repair it for free.

Sergey_new_pcb
12:12:08 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dubb, if all mentioned earlier doesn't help and you decide to send it to me for repair don't put any cash into the box, it's not allowed and it may result in the parcel never crossing the border and probably disappearing forever.

Tbkahuna
16:36:31 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I got the small board after a short trip to the post office. It had arrived on Friday but taken to the PO. That means the 2000 rpm board is very close!!

TBK

DUBB
17:56:47 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 12:12:08 Mon May 2 2011

Dubb, if all mentioned earlier doesn't help and you decide to send it to me for repair don't put any cash into the box, it's not allowed and it may result in the parcel never crossing the border and probably disappearing forever.
Of course not. 1 in 4 U.S. bills tests positive for cocaine, and dogs can smell that through anything except a metal can. And furthermore, they put tags in our currency, now, so they can count it if you ship it, go through an airport with it, or with their sattelites, if you put enough of it in one place as to draw their attention to it.

Tbkahuna
21:36:40 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey board 2 has arrived!!!

Tbkahuna
23:29:29 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I recorded a couple of bursts using my drozd magnum firing the valve only. It is FAST!!!!

I made the recording with a blackberry and it is in .amr format. Does anyone have a converter for .amr to .mpg or wav and want to convert the file for me? I can't install a converter on this computer.

TBK

camracer
23:37:08 Mon
May 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Holy shit, holy SHIT, HOLY SHIT!!!!!

Can you tell I'm gittin' 'cited!!! :smash:

My board's delivery gotta be RIGHT behind yours!!!!

I don't know the Blackberry conversion format, but hurry up and 'figgur it out! :smash: ---Cam

Tbkahuna
00:12:01 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I tried a video with my camera... it blows. But, you can watch the numbers go really fast! The sound isn't good.



The sound in the .amr file is better if anyone wants to do the conversion.

Tbkahuna
00:22:53 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The link in the last post worked, but now it doesn't. Hmmm.

TBK

Tbkahuna
00:42:22 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Try this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1OtVh-9Urg

You need to hear it!!! That sound through my camera is worthless.

TBK

Tbkahuna
01:18:45 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ok, I couldn't just stop there. I'm really short on time for the next several days so I hooked the Sergey Board 2 to my BB solenoid so I could at least let 'er rip a few times until I can get the board installed.

I was running through a standard paintball tank at about 850 psi with about 13 volts to the SB-2. P was 8 and RPM was 2K. I am operating the board with one hand, and holding the BB with the other.

I filled the mag with Daisy bbs, turned on the board and poked the "go" button. 2000 rpm was rippin!!
The first thing I noticed was the sweet sound of 2000 rpm. Its not as thick a sound as the earlier test with my larger Magnum valve, but very pleasing anyway. A "short" burst is 6 rounds. I was shooting into a cardboard box and it was more like drawing on the box. The rounds hit very close together at that firing rate.

The second thing I noticed was a bit of muzzle climb.

In summary... This thing rocks!!! Way to go Sergey! I need to do more testing and hook it up to my new electric magazines. I can't wait to put together some more projects with this board. I believe I will need another board or two. I do need to get the mini board I just got put in a gun first.

I think this board with .236 caliber in the Magnum will be the shizzle.

TBK



camracer
10:26:10 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
HA HAAA HAAAAAAA!!! WOWEEEEE!! That's amazing!! Thanks for the "peek" TBK. I'm all giddy with excitement now!!

Hey, what are you talking about with the video quality?? That's WAY better than mine! I can hear everything very clearly..... What camera model are you using?

You can do more videos with that for sure! Keep 'em coming.

So, tell us the news. How is the Blackbird mag holding up to a sustained burst? Are you getting occasional air shots like I expect? I really can't wait to do some testing! ---Cam

P.S. It's nice to hear your Real voice!





drozdandconfused
16:59:13 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

Very cool TBK! Tempting, tempting......

I forget, what is the max direct voltage Sergey recommends to the mag, 16.8V? At that rpm, short burst are fine.

camracer
17:56:29 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Got Sergey's new board today!! Going to install right now..... ---Cam

camracer
18:06:17 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozdandconfused at 16:59:13 Tue May 3 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

Very cool TBK! Tempting, tempting......

I forget, what is the max direct voltage Sergey recommends to the mag, 16.8V? At that rpm, short burst are fine.


Haa Haaa! Great clip!

I wouldn't recommend much higher than that. Especially on very long bursts. I have run that voltage fine, but I also don't do over 50-60 shot bursts without a break. 12.6v is what I normally use for the BB mag. Testing will prove today whether 2000 rpm will hold up. Seems like TBK's test was working! I'll be starting the trial test at 12.6v, then I'll go higher to 16.8v. Check back later!! ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
19:52:52 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

I forget, what is the max direct voltage Sergey recommends to the mag, 16.8V?


You can use on-board 15 volts voltage regulator or by-pass it. The jumper position determines what you get at the mag output. It's described in the very first post in this thread.

Off-topic: this small 900 RPM board is going soon to a Drozd owner from Southern Russia whose gun needs a new board.



It'll be installed on top of the stock board. The user will have to remove the original chip and solder 6 or 7 wires connecting the small board to motherboard. The second board not populated with components yet is for another airgunner from this forum.

DUBB
20:18:38 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 00:42:22 Tue May 3 2011

Try this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1OtVh-9Urg

You need to hear it!!! That sound through my camera is worthless.

TBK
I think I'm getting a stiffy! I can hardly wait until I get mine, I already love that sound. Well, that used up my good idea for this year. Don't want to overload my braincells, they have both been working too hard!

camracer
23:24:04 Tue
May 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ok Folks! The Sergey CB#2 is installed!! WOW!!!!!! A new sound signature will be noticed now!! COOL!!! Great work Sergey! Your board works flawless as usual. And it dropped in replacing your Sergey CB#1 board exactly. All my control buttons lined up perfectly! Fantastic, my friend!

Here it is #2!!:
---Cam

SONYtec
00:38:34 Wed
May 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice!!!

camracer
10:47:58 Wed
May 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
OK folks, here's my report on the new board. I tested at 12.6v and 16.8v yesterday using the Blackbird magazine, at 1100 psi. All works AS EXPECTED!!! Very nice work Sergey!!! What a sound signature 2000rpm has! Pretty cool! It sounds to me like my pneumatic air hammer or impact wrench.

I went though testing without using a jumper wire to increase voltage to the mag motor. The Blackbird mag cycles perfectly to 1400 rpm, in all modes. At 1600 rpm, I began to get intermittent air shots. 1800 rpm to 2000 rpm, I got lots of air shots. I found that 1600-2000rpm works good in 3-5 round bursts. I could actually hear the feed trying to catch up!! I EXPECTED this to happen folks. THIS IS NO FAULT TO SERGEY'S NEW BOARD!


As with TBK and my own testing of our prototype mags, we had to find the right motor with the right rpm to voltage curve, to make them feed correctly. The Blackbird motor, as suspected, MAY need to be swapped out. BUT, I have not tried the jumper wire for direct battery voltage to the mag motor yet. And to anyone experimenting with this new board keep in mind I would NOT recommend any much voltage above 15v to the Blackbird's motor!!

Be SURE to review Sergey's first post in this thread. Very important info to keep in mind! I just want everyone to be aware that this new board is experimental for finding the right voltage, and maybe the motor. Now we need to get the feed right! Sergey's new board works EXACTLY as he said it would. In fact, it actually works BETTER than the mag motor provides (without the jumper wire). Sooo, ....Don't be disappointed, you now know the facts!

In conclusion, I HIGHLY recommend this new version for the circuit board. A new era has begun for the Drozd!!! Let the experimenting commence!!! :smash: :rotflmao: ---Cam

Tbkahuna
01:37:40 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Holy cow! I am busy for a couple of days and come back to find out DUBB is sportin' wood, and Cam has his board in hand ... that isn't sounding right...

You blink and look what you miss!! What does CB stand for? I was calling it SB-2 for Sergey Board 2.

Sergey- is that the same small 900 rpm board that I have?

I wish I could get a better recording of the sound, especially with the bigger valve. It's a deeper sound. The regular drozd valve sounds cool, too, though.

I wanted to do a video of the actual firing with the blackbird mag, but that was too much to do with just two hands. Yes, I was getting airshots with longer bursts and could hear the mag "filling up" after the air shots. In addition to making the new mag that will be able to do 2000 rpm in .177 and .236 caliber, I think I can make the Blackbird mag run at that firing rate with a couple of changes. But, of course, we'll have to see if that pans out.


TBK

DUBB
03:38:04 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I happened upon an electric motor at the shack, today. It's identical in dimentions, but spins about 3 times as fast. It's rated 9v to 18v. I found a pinion for it and put it in, and replaced the 12v reg on my Sergy board with the original 9v, but it spun the pinion, and that is where it sits at the moment. I made a crappy video of the 2 spining up to show the difference, maybe I can get it posted somewhere (I was about to say, "get it up", but I don't like that expression).

camracer
10:45:16 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 01:37:40 Thu May 5 2011

Holy cow! I am busy for a couple of days and come back to find out DUBB is sportin' wood, and Cam has his board in hand ... that isn't sounding right...

You blink and look what you miss!! What does CB stand for? I was calling it SB-2 for Sergey Board 2.

Sergey- is that the same small 900 rpm board that I have?

I wish I could get a better recording of the sound, especially with the bigger valve. It's a deeper sound. The regular drozd valve sounds cool, too, though.

I wanted to do a video of the actual firing with the blackbird mag, but that was too much to do with just two hands. Yes, I was getting airshots with longer bursts and could hear the mag "filling up" after the air shots. In addition to making the new mag that will be able to do 2000 rpm in .177 and .236 caliber, I think I can make the Blackbird mag run at that firing rate with a couple of changes. But, of course, we'll have to see if that pans out.


TBK


Heh, Heh. Yep, movin' quick! "CB" is for circuit board. I like SB-2 better though. Lets stick to that designation.

Really the sound was clear enough. Do you have a camera tripod you can mount to you camera? And, What camera model are you using? It's clearer than that piece of crap old Sony I'm using!

Keep the video's coming. Really makes things x-citin'!!

I agree with you about a few simple fixes to get the feed right. First thing to do is do the jumper wire for direct battery voltage to the mag motor. Just need to test a bit more. ....And that's the FUN part!! ---Cam

camracer
10:49:29 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 03:38:04 Thu May 5 2011

I happened upon an electric motor at the shack, today. It's identical in dimentions, but spins about 3 times as fast. It's rated 9v to 18v. I found a pinion for it and put it in, and replaced the 12v reg on my Sergy board with the original 9v, but it spun the pinion, and that is where it sits at the moment. I made a crappy video of the 2 spining up to show the difference, maybe I can get it posted somewhere (I was about to say, "get it up", but I don't like that expression).


I just glued my pinion gear on with CA glue. Has never come loose. A metal pinion gear would be preferable if you need to de-glue it. Simply hold it over a flame and melt the glue.

DUBB, start up a Youtube account. Post videos there. Crappy vid or not, it's all still interesting! ---Cam

DUBB
22:10:25 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I used a brass pinion, but I gave up on that motor, it was just way too fast to be practical, so I put the old one back in. I have another motor that will fit, coming, anyway, rated for 24v, I'll have to see what that one is like. For what it's worth, a 380 motor will fit in there, too. I'm in the process or redoing the modular mod, to go with having 2 sets of batteries, I like how you made yours with spring contacts, like I oringinally did on the same mod I did for the magazine. I gave up on those in favor of bent tab springs, from AA batteries, since those springs kept snagging things. I found some very small springs that should work perfect, in addition, I'm going to dig channels for the wires to go in so they arent pinched, and I plan to run one set under the others contacts. Sergy says he'll be able to ship my new board (#5!!) in a couple of days, I am getting everything else I want to get done, now.

Tbkahuna
23:49:54 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Is the pinion a really loose fit on the shaft, or fairly tight? If it isn't too loose, it should CA on ok.

The motors in that size range usually have a 2mm (.078") or 2.3mm (.094") shaft. There should be pinions available for those shaft sizes, but I don't remember the gear pitch. I think Cam may have measured it.

I can't wait to get the magazines running up at that speed.

DUBB, you will really like the new board.

Cam, my camera is a Fuji that I've had for quite a while.

TBK

camracer
23:53:50 Thu
May 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 22:10:25 Thu May 5 2011

I used a brass pinion, but I gave up on that motor, it was just way too fast to be practical, so I put the old one back in. I have another motor that will fit, coming, anyway, rated for 24v, I'll have to see what that one is like. For what it's worth, a 380 motor will fit in there, too. I'm in the process or redoing the modular mod, to go with having 2 sets of batteries, I like how you made yours with spring contacts, like I oringinally did on the same mod I did for the magazine. I gave up on those in favor of bent tab springs, from AA batteries, since those springs kept snagging things. I found some very small springs that should work perfect, in addition, I'm going to dig channels for the wires to go in so they arent pinched, and I plan to run one set under the others contacts. Sergy says he'll be able to ship my new board (#5!!) in a couple of days, I am getting everything else I want to get done, now.


DUBB, TBK and I already went through a Sh!t-load of research on motors!! We'll help you get the right one! Please continue your experiments though! All info is GOOD info. :smash:

I don't see why you need to "Dig" channels for the wires? There's plenty of room for them, ...unless I'm not following you?....

And a "380" motor. ...hhhmmmnnn.... Why go with the bored-out 350? I'd totally go big block. Overkill is good!:lol: Ok, maybe we could use the 380. But, I think a dual plane intake with a....hhmmmn... maybe a 750 Holley double pumper carb.....Yeah, that sounds right! 400+ HP should feed just about all we can throw at it. :tongue: ---Cam

camracer
10:41:39 Fri
May 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 23:49:54 Thu May 5 2011

Is the pinion a really loose fit on the shaft, or fairly tight? If it isn't too loose, it should CA on ok.

The motors in that size range usually have a 2mm (.078":wink: or 2.3mm (.094":wink: shaft. There should be pinions available for those shaft sizes, but I don't remember the gear pitch. I think Cam may have measured it.

I can't wait to get the magazines running up at that speed.

DUBB, you will really like the new board.

Cam, my camera is a Fuji that I've had for quite a while.

TBK


Pitch isn't as important as diameter of the gears (to figgur' out the ratios). ....I didn't measure the pitch of the Blackbird mag's
gears.

Fuji, ..ok. I really need to get a new video camera right away! I might go with the one Drozdandconfused recently got with slo-mo capability!


DUBB
14:09:32 Fri
May 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The way I did mine with the flat contacts made from the sheet copper, they work best with one set over the other, I need a total of four, since I batteries in the stock, too. That puts on set over the other at the contact area (that part of the handle), that's harder to wire. The last configuration I used involved more of that copper sheet, so the "wires" were flat, and routed around the first set of contacts. Pain in the ass. And I don't want it to fit together too tight, either.
750 on a small block? Run that with your dual breaker points ignition, too. Just avoid mud puddles, and smog tests. Personally, I retrofit with electronic fuel injection, and a programmable performance management system (the computer). Inspired by the ZR-1 Corvette, with it's dual injector system, I like to mount up 2 set of injectors, fed independantly from their own pumps and tanks. The small set goes to the fuel tank, while the large set is fed from a fuel cell in the trunk, with nitromethane, and since the computer will have saveable preset "curves", one can be the nitromethane setting. It won't last more than a minute or so, under full throttle, at the most, but it'll deffinately make assholios challanging at red lights sorry they picked you to mess with. The big difference is these, is that gasoline has a stoichiometric ratio of 14.7 parts fuel, to one part air, where nitromethane carries a bunch of it's own oxygen supply, and has a stoichiometric ratio of just 1.7 to 1, so you will burn about 8 times more of it, in the same ammout of revs as you would in a gasoline engine. Nitro funny cars burn 14 gallons of nitromethane in 7 seconds, and don't have radiators, pouring 14 gallons of cool alcohol into the combustion chambers cools the motor down really quick, thats why they let them idle for a long time before they line up on the starting line: get them hot, first.
Is that cheating, a second fuel system?

DUBB
20:11:48 Fri
May 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergy sent mine this morning!! Did I hear someone say, "number five is alive!"? Well, soon, now, soon......

drozdandconfused
21:31:06 Fri
May 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
(Loud ruckus chanting) VIDEO, VIDEO, VIDEO! Shoot n' see target writing @ 2000 rpm, water shots, drywall from the side. Must see video!

camracer
21:35:11 Fri
May 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
WOW!!! ...WHEW!!! Out of breath.....Huuuh huuuuh hhuuh. I had to run in and report. SH!T I had a great afternoon testing SB-2 with my prototype mag! Keeps up great! 1250 psi @18.6v.

More later, ....having TOOOO much fun blowing up 'sploding targets right now!!! I'll try to report more later tonight, after more BEERS!! Happy Friday everyone! Later..... :rotflmao: ---Cam

New video COMING SOON!

camracer
00:35:45 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Update #2: BERR is wrking well nww. WEEEEEE......, UH refriasing.....BEER WORK YUMMY! ....uhhh, ......or something. Friday RULES!!!! :lol:

Ok, but ceriusly, .......Sorry, lost my thought.........OH!...

I had the BEST shoot test day today EVER! Got to cross TBK and My: "New Magazine Development" thread with this thread Started by Sergey, 'cause it's REALLY coming together folks!

Tbkahuna, the Nichibo motor seems to work well with Sergey's SB-2 board. I need to continue to refine the feed on my prototype, but your prototype should SURPASS mine!! You are in for a real treat!

Sergey, FANTASTIC!! Wait until you and EVERYONE takes a gander at my new video that will come soon! I was nearly "Vaporizing" beer bottles today. ....Holy Fuck@n' Shitzen!!!!!!!!

The mod I did with the mag release, to hold my HEAVY prototype mag in place works FLAWLESS!! Accuracy has increased!! Much tighter groupings at 50 feet! NO mag movement AT ALL! WOW! I swear I can HEAR the difference!

Gotta say, Holy F*ck!! Crazy rate of fire! I will shoot video immediately (as weather permits). I SURE hope all of you that gets SB-2 does the same!

Last note to throw in: Still be warned: The Blackbird mag's motor will NOT keep up at long sustained bursts! So DON'T give Sergey a hard time about it!!!!!!! This new board needs LOTS of experimentation. 3 round bursts seem to work ok at the max. I really don't want anyone to push voltage and BURN out the BB mag's motor. Especially since no replacement parts are available yet!

Other points for Sergey: VERY nice evolution, my friend! All is working just great! Gotta say, your "little" touches are great! ...I mean: I love the "neon" blue new power-on light. Haven't seen quite that color for blue LED before. My prototype mag is not having the "run-away" motor with the extra electrolytic capacitor you added. THANKS! Excellent work adding the mag voltage "bypass" jumper option! ...There's more, but "beer-brainage" is cutting off my thinky thing! :lol:
Just all around, .....really well done Sergey!! ---Cam



green_dots
03:32:25 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Great report Cam. The part about the new board overpowering the mag motor is important. I am thinking of buying one but I must wait to the motor problem is solved.Hopefully soon. Hope your drinking good beer.You have some outstanding mirco brews in your part of the states. Sam Adams come to mine. GD.

SONYtec
04:06:38 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
MMmmm Sams. Try their Boston Brick Red. Only on tap. :rolleyes:

camracer
13:15:02 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: green_dots at 03:32:25 Sat May 7 2011

Great report Cam. The part about the new board overpowering the mag motor is important. I am thinking of buying one but I must wait to the motor problem is solved.Hopefully soon. Hope your drinking good beer.You have some outstanding mirco brews in your part of the states. Sam Adams come to mine. GD.


It's not that Sergey's SB-2 is "Overpowering" the mag motor. Let's make sure that's understood! Sergey's board works exactly as he said it would! The SB-2's RPM is soo quick the Blackbird's motor doesn't keep up the feed rate to match over 1400 rpm. (Short 3 round bursts do) I applied 18.6v (NOT recommended for the Blackbird's motor!) for a while to test. That's better, But I am thinking a motor swap will be necessary.

To anyone thinking of buying the SB-2, Do it! All rpm's up to 1400 rpm work great!! We'll soon work out the motor swap for everyone!

....and, nope, I wasn't drinking the GOOD beer, Just Buttweipers :lol: ---Cam (gonna drink more of 'em later! :wink: )

DUBB
14:23:30 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
So I have this other motor, and it is identical in every dimention to the motor in the bb mag, but when I apply the same current to them, this other one spins about 3 times as fast as the bb's motor. I think this is because of how many wraps around the stator, or "turns" the wire makes. I think that it has to be a relative ratio, then, where the one that spins slower makes more torque than the fast one, I expect some kind of tradeoff. So I'm going to get to the bottom of that, next. I want to wind my own motor really bad, now, for some reason. I think I'll start by measuring the resistance through the stators, next, and go from there.

camracer
14:45:47 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 14:23:30 Sat May 7 2011

So I have this other motor, and it is identical in every dimention to the motor in the bb mag, but when I apply the same current to them, this other one spins about 3 times as fast as the bb's motor. I think this is because of how many wraps around the stator, or "turns" the wire makes. I think that it has to be a relative ratio, then, where the one that spins slower makes more torque than the fast one, I expect some kind of tradeoff. So I'm going to get to the bottom of that, next. I want to wind my own motor really bad, now, for some reason. I think I'll start by measuring the resistance through the stators, next, and go from there.


DUBB, who makes that motor, and whats the model# ?

DUBB
15:18:45 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have no clue. I found it at Radio Shack, whilst mindlessly digging around, while I was really trying to remember that other thing that I always forget when I go there. I hate when that happens. And sometimes I am looking for something like this, that I won't know what it is until I find it. Anyway, it just said 9v to 18 v, and was otherwise identical in every way. Clearly, it would fit. But that motor really didn't work out at all. I have a 380 motor that matches the rpm of the original bb motor, I will probably mess with that, next. I think I tried putting that in, once, but I don't recall how that turned out. I guess I'll have to find out the hard way, again. Funny, the motor in my old Dremel "mini mite", 4.5v, is the same size as the 380, but will make 10,000 rpm @ 4.5v, 12v will smoke it.
I'm not entirely sure if what we will need is more speed, or more torque, and if everything else is even, we have to trade one for the other. This is why I think getting that 380 size motor, or one that has the right speed, is the best answer, since it will gain a lot of torque, just by virtue of having more "flywheel" mass, that will compensate for the tourque lost by increasing the speed. I have never seen brushed electric motors associated with the expression, but brushless motors refer to the rpm to voltage ratio as "kv", ex: 1000kv means 1000 rpm per volt, so at 6v it makes 6000 rpm, and at 9v it makes 9000 rpm.

DUBB
16:45:33 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Allright, without a way to ecactly measure the rpm of the original, I am going to just use the fact that it has low rpm as a rule. These fit, as in the same dimentions, and are relatively low speed.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mabuchi-RK-370-Motor-12-30-VDC-3210-RPM-24-VDC-/280656602714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41586fe65a
http://www.mopselectric.com/ebay/rk370ca.pdf
These are a little bit bigger, but they should fit fine, they are still smaller than a 380
http://www.mopselectric.com/ebay/mabuchirs365sh.pdf

Tbkahuna
17:49:05 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Those 370 motors were the first pick for the new mags. We used the RF-370CA-15370 that has very close specs to the 'bay motor in your link. The brushes weren't as robust as the Nichibo and MD5 motors, and I believe Cam burnt one up pretty quickly. That's when we switched to the Nichibo and MD5.

My personal preference is still the Nichibo QJT-360S-14280 motor followed by the MD5. They have nice big brushes, plenty of torque, and good rpm for the application. I posted the motor rpms I was getting at a couple of voltages on the "New Mag Development" thread. The Nichibo motor spec sheet shows 6200 rpm at 12 volts and 12500 at 24 volts, so voltage and gearing puts it right in the game. The torque is good in the speed range we need.

If someone has their BB mag apart, can you check to see how much space is available for the motor (diameter and length). I don't recall the BB mag gear ratio, but I was thinking it was about 2.7:1.

TBK

camracer
21:51:17 Sat
May 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 17:49:05 Sat May 7 2011

Those 370 motors were the first pick for the new mags. We used the RF-370CA-15370 that has very close specs to the 'bay motor in your link. The brushes weren't as robust as the Nichibo and MD5 motors, and I believe Cam burnt one up pretty quickly. That's when we switched to the Nichibo and MD5.

My personal preference is still the Nichibo QJT-360S-14280 motor followed by the MD5. They have nice big brushes, plenty of torque, and good rpm for the application. I posted the motor rpms I was getting at a couple of voltages on the "New Mag Development" thread. The Nichibo motor spec sheet shows 6200 rpm at 12 volts and 12500 at 24 volts, so voltage and gearing puts it right in the game. The torque is good in the speed range we need.

If someone has their BB mag apart, can you check to see how much space is available for the motor (diameter and length). I don't recall the BB mag gear ratio, but I was thinking it was about 2.7:1.

TBK


Agreed. Those motors have carbon brushes. Better all around. The Blackbird mag has metal brushes. It will burn out quickly at higher voltages. BE WARNED.

We have already chosen motors that will fit the Blackbird from past research. I'll post later. Both the Nichibo motor and the MD5 are larger than the Blackbird's motor. Cutting may be needed for a fit. I'll measure tomorrow morning. The voltage control circuit is going to be very useful. ---Cam




camracer
20:27:38 Sun
May 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just got done "shooting" more video footage of Sergey's SB-2 circuit board in action. I just have to find some time to do the editing now. ....Sooooo, more action to come soon! "Grainy Video Productions" soon to present: "Sergey's SB-2 Circuit Board, The Evolution" Stay Tuned!! :tongue: ---Cam

DUBB
18:22:30 Wed
May 11 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The way to do those LM317 voltage circuits is to use a static resistor inline with the variable for the R2. This will give you a fixed working range, instead of zero or infinate. For example with a 10 ohm R1, and another 10 ohm resistor inline with a 100 ohm trimpot, or 10-110 ohms R2, you get a range of 2.5v to 15v. Trick is to figure out what you need, using that calculator.

camracer
00:17:20 Thu
May 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 18:22:30 Wed May 11 2011

The way to do those LM317 voltage circuits is to use a static resistor inline with the variable for the R2. This will give you a fixed working range, instead of zero or infinate. For example with a 10 ohm R1, and another 10 ohm resistor inline with a 100 ohm trimpot, or 10-110 ohms R2, you get a range of 2.5v to 15v. Trick is to figure out what you need, using that calculator.


Yeah, thanks DUBB. Just simple math. I actually haven't ordered the components yet to make the voltage control, been so busy lately. Then I got side-tracked editing my next video..... I'll get on track soon. ---Cam

camracer
00:32:19 Fri
May 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Did more testing today. I went up to 21v with my prototype mag. What I have found is .....complexity....

Folks, ...We have a LOT of testing to do! I have found that the higher the voltage, the better for 2000 rpm, for one. (expected)
Also at a given voltage, start with the LOWEST pot adjustment and work up to the "sweet spot" for that given voltage, rpm rate, and PRESSURE. At 21v, 1200 psi and 2000 rpm today, I got best results at a pot setting of 5. The higher I went with the pot adjustment, the more air shots I got.

I am seeing that at high psi and 1600-2000 rpm, the higher the pot adjustment, the more "air shots" happen. But I can really feel it out with my prototype mag with the Nichibo motor that is rated for the higher rpm feed.

Sooooo, .....When you use the stock Blackbird mag, use the highest voltage you can (15-16v) and use the lowest pot adjustment possible and acceptable for the pressure you are using.

You will ALL just have to experiment! Best results will have to be worked out for each voltage input and pressure used, and pot adjustment will have to be worked out for EACH change in voltage and pressure. This will take a lot of testing for us all.

I have not gone to any scientific note taking. Just observations. But I'll Tell ya all, ...I'm still having a lot of fun testing! BBBRRRRRAAAAAPPPPPP!!!! :smash:

It may be a little while, since I am still editing, but the test video will be coming soon! Just need a rainy day to keep me inside! Still go six hours of editing to do!

More to come.... ---Cam

DUBB
04:50:31 Sat
May 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm getting a bit confused which thread to continue my motor madness in, but this seems like a good place, since the new 2000 rpm board is going to be the pinnacle of magazine motor load, and it might be the only way to do it, is change the motor. The original is rated to do 4000 rpm @ 12v, but the new board will give it 15 to compensate. So keeping that speed in mind, and looking for motors that are close to the same speed, larger, and or rated for higher voltage, but smaller than a 380, so it will fit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Small-DC-Electric-Motor-12-24VDC-4000-rpm-34-g-cm-M50-/350457750188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5198e8e2ac
I like this one, it looks like the perfect replacement. It's the same speed, it's just bigger, so it makes more torque, and it's rated for the voltage. And it'll fit without any work.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Small-DC-Electric-Motor-9-30-VDC-4930-rpm-44-g-cm-M24-/350460222823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51990e9d67
This one is a little faster, and makes a tiny bit more torque.

This next one is what I have in mine now. It's a 380, so it required a lot of grinding and just barely fit. And it's a little slow, so I'm giving it 21v, even though it's only supposed to take 15v, but it doesnt smell burning, and runs great, I love it. Lots of torque in that big motor. And would you believe that it's quieter, now? Go figure.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230538474989&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT


DUBB
07:26:05 Sat
May 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 14:45:47 Sat May 7 2011

Quote: DUBB at 14:23:30 Sat May 7 2011

So I have this other motor, and it is identical in every dimention to the motor in the bb mag, but when I apply the same current to them, this other one spins about 3 times as fast as the bb's motor. I think this is because of how many wraps around the stator, or "turns" the wire makes. I think that it has to be a relative ratio, then, where the one that spins slower makes more torque than the fast one, I expect some kind of tradeoff. So I'm going to get to the bottom of that, next. I want to wind my own motor really bad, now, for some reason. I think I'll start by measuring the resistance through the stators, next, and go from there.


DUBB, who makes that motor, and whats the model# ?
"SUPER TACK", and it says "273" and "256". It has nice, fat, carbon brushes, and a 5 pole armature and stator. Nice motor, but too fast.

Sergey_new_pcb
13:32:30 Sat
May 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 04:50:31 Sat May 14 2011

The original is rated to do 4000 rpm @ 12v, but the new board will give it 15 to compensate.


If you put the jumper in another position the 15 volts regulator will be bypassed so more voltage can be applied to the motor when necessary. The board can cope with the increased current.

camracer
00:23:47 Sun
May 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB that last "380" motor will be way too fast: I've already tried it. It was designed for hair dryers. Anything above 8000 rpm will waste energy.

http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/cgi-bin/catalog/e_catalog.cgi?CAT_ID=rs_380ph

DUBB
15:42:31 Sun
May 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The 380 I'm using now? No way, it's slower than the original motor, it's only 3600rpm @ 12v, so it's 300kv. Slower, but it's happy as a clam at full battery voltage. Got the jumper bypass on my original Sergy board, awaiting the arrival of the new one. Mag runs great, and it's actually quiter. I agree, though, 8000rpm is way too much, that would be twice as fast as the original. If I linked to one that says that, check how high the rated voltage is, 8000rpm @ 24v = 333.3kv, same as 4000rpm @ 12v = 333.33kv, the big difference is that the former CAN take 24v, IF we should so choose, and we won't be pushing it running at 15v, like with the latter.

camracer
18:54:40 Sun
May 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 15:42:31 Sun May 15 2011

The 380 I'm using now? No way, it's slower than the original motor, it's only 3600rpm @ 12v, so it's 300kv. Slower, but it's happy as a clam at full battery voltage. Got the jumper bypass on my original Sergy board, awaiting the arrival of the new one. Mag runs great, and it's actually quiter. I agree, though, 8000rpm is way too much, that would be twice as fast as the original. If I linked to one that says that, check how high the rated voltage is, 8000rpm @ 24v = 333.3kv, same as 4000rpm @ 12v = 333.33kv, the big difference is that the former CAN take 24v, IF we should so choose, and we won't be pushing it running at 15v, like with the latter.


No, I was talking about the RS-380PH which is 16400 rpm at 12v.

DUBB
19:54:48 Sun
May 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's the one, and it runs at 3500 rpm, it's slower than the original motor. Scroll down that page and read it for yourself. There are, however, 2 different kinds of these motors, the other one is for lower voltage, and will run faster.
Quote: null

- No Load Speed: 3500 RPM / No Load Current: 50 mA.

And that's about what it runs at 12v, slower than the original motor. I can't explain the discrepancy in the factory info, though.

camracer
21:53:09 Sun
May 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 19:54:48 Sun May 15 2011

That's the one, and it runs at 3500 rpm, it's slower than the original motor. Scroll down that page and read it for yourself. There are, however, 2 different kinds of these motors, the other one is for lower voltage, and will run faster.
Quote: null

- No Load Speed: 3500 RPM / No Load Current: 50 mA.

And that's about what it runs at 12v, slower than the original motor. I can't explain the discrepancy in the factory info, though.


Well, DUBB, You hit it on the head. "factory discrepancy". Both TBK and I have ordered motors that are NOT what the advertise!! You're not wrong, and neither am I. Heh, heh! Hey we're both always right, ...right? (I know, most of the time I'm wrong :lol: ) But, at the very least, this "library" of knowledge we are amassing will change the world! :tongue:

You know me, I always am listening. I not a "master" until I've "snatched the pebble"..... ---Cam

DUBB
19:02:39 Mon
May 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 21:53:09 Sun May 15 2011

Quote: DUBB at 19:54:48 Sun May 15 2011

That's the one, and it runs at 3500 rpm, it's slower than the original motor. Scroll down that page and read it for yourself. There are, however, 2 different kinds of these motors, the other one is for lower voltage, and will run faster.
Quote: null

- No Load Speed: 3500 RPM / No Load Current: 50 mA.

And that's about what it runs at 12v, slower than the original motor. I can't explain the discrepancy in the factory info, though.


Well, DUBB, You hit it on the head. "factory discrepancy". Both TBK and I have ordered motors that are NOT what the advertise!! You're not wrong, and neither am I. Heh, heh! Hey we're both always right, ...right? (I know, most of the time I'm wrong :lol: ) But, at the very least, this "library" of knowledge we are amassing will change the world! :tongue:

You know me, I always am listening. I not a "master" until I've "snatched the pebble"..... ---Cam
Don't forget about the fly you have to catch with a pair of chopsticks, too.

DUBB
19:19:38 Mon
May 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
CAUTION: My mag stopped working, in the course of all this experamentation. It worked if I powered it up with an external battery, and the board showed fuctuating voltage when tested without the mag, and none with the mag on (my wireless mag mod makes that really easy to test for me). This led me to try changing that little transistor connected to that circuit, and sure enough, that fixed it. I think I know what I did, this time: the original motor has 15 ohms across it, while some of the other motors I have been playing around with are as low as just one ohm. Be careful about that if you do mess with the mag motor, check that you have enough (more than 1 ohm, otherwise, ????) resistance in the new motor. I understand, now, what Sergy was thinking, and why he said he used a better transistor for the mag in the new board. I don't have any idea how that would have effected what I did to mine, but I should think that more than one ohm is still a prudent rule of thumb.
My new board should be here this week!........ I fixed the transistor because I didn't want to wait even that long to shoot, and because I just had to know what I did, you know?

Sergey_new_pcb
19:26:58 Mon
May 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Right, more powerful motor damaged the transistor on the OLD board. New boards CAN cope with it if the user replaces the stock motor with something stronger.

camracer
22:00:28 Mon
May 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 19:26:58 Mon May 16 2011

Right, more powerful motor damaged the transistor on the OLD board. New boards CAN cope with it if the user replaces the stock motor with something stronger.


Genius you are, Sergey. Hold on to your "diary", because there will be more for you to put your input into. Very important to stay within the "parameters"!!! ...Agreed about the motor!! TBK, myself, And DUBB will get it right for everyone!!! We are changing the WORLD this year!! (.....ok, I did have a few beers tonight......, but it's all good!)

Sergey, You will enjoy my next video, (as will everyone...hopefully), but, ....analyze the findings. Little things in the video, maybe only you will get. (not that everyone is stupid, far from it!) You will just know how to "tweak" your design and make it even better!!

I think you will all get a "kick" out of the new SB-2 vid! I just want to make it COOL! And, I really want to help my friend out! :wink: YOU know who you are! ........Stay Tuned! ---Cam

camracer
00:38:45 Tue
May 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
My next video is pretty much complete. I just gotta cut it into two halves since it is almost 30 minutes long, so Youtube will allow the length. "The Drozd SB-2 2000 RPM Circuit Board" coming ....tomorrow?..... :tongue: (hopefully the sound track won't be muted this time!!) :smash: Stay Tuned!! ---Cam

radical
04:59:54 Tue
May 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The critics will be watching! ;?)

DUBB
13:16:11 Tue
May 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
As it turned out, mashing the 380 in there squished down the terminals on the motor so that they shorted to the case, and that's what the culprit was. I know since I blew another transistor. Funny thing is, it still ran, but checking the resistance showed less than an ohm, that can't be good. I fixed the short in the mag, but boy, getting that 380 in is sure a pain in the enfelage, I don't think I'm quite done exparamenting with motors just yet.

camracer
16:54:37 Tue
May 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 13:16:11 Tue May 17 2011

I don't think I'm quite done exparamenting with motors just yet.


Good! Keep it up!! The more experimenters we have, the better. ---Cam

DUBB
09:45:06 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey, Cam, you know wht I just figured out? That motor I picked is the same one you picked, the Nichibo. That's funny, getting that after the fact. I still can't explain the conflict with the RS380PH I am using now, what the factory says makes no sense, and I can't find anything about what I have, which is what the ad said, maybe someone rewound it. But it runs a bit slower than the original motor, and if that is 4000rpm, than 3500rpm sounds right to me. I'm still going to get one of those Nichibo's, I found a place that has them on the cheap.
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_206949_-1
Oh yeah, Cam, check this out: another possible solution for your mag speed control, a diy PWM controller, and this whole site in general, has very cool electronics diy projects.
http://www.diy-electronic-projects.com/p145-PWM-Motor-Light-Controller

camracer
10:31:01 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: DUBB

I still can't explain the conflict with the RS380PH I am using now, what the factory says makes no sense, and I can't find anything about what I have, which is what the ad said, maybe someone rewound it.


I can explain. Hopefully your 380 motor has a "dash -xxxxx" number after the PH? That number designates the windings' wire diameter and how many turns. Motor speeds, as you know depend on that wire diameter and # of turns (as well as magnet type i.e. rubber vs. ceramic vs. rare earth) That number at the end MAY NOT be listed. If it isn't, then it's a "crap shoot" as to which model it really is. Rated speeds can vary widely.

That Nichibo QJT motor is the choice motor that TBK and I are both using in our prototypes. And we both bought them from Jameco! It's diameter is about an inch by 1 1/2". (Bigger than the Blackbird's motor).

Good find on the controller. I'll bookmark it. I still need to order components for the speed control I need to build.

By the way, here's a graph on ONE model of the 380 motor that you can input your own voltage into to see motor speed(un-loaded). Pretty cool!
http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/en_US/product/elsim.html?RS-380PH-3270/16400/0.37/14.0/93.2/4.5/15.0/12/0.0019/0.0039/0.0019/(CCW+)

---Cam


DUBB
12:01:19 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Jameco has those ic's for the diy speed controller for only $.25. It doesn't look any harder, or more expensive to build that, instead of an LM317 type voltage regulator, and the former would be a LOT more efficient on the batteries, since it works on a switching principle, as opposed to ballast resistance. I want to build one now, really bad. You know what one of the projects on that site is an electromagnetic gun, I wanna build one of those, too, but BIGGER.......
I'll be out there stealing transformers off of the utility poles under cover of darkness.......

DUBB
12:06:06 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Oh yeah, my Mabuchi RS-380PH also has the number RN546726 on it. Mean anything to you that I should know?

camracer
16:02:28 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 12:06:06 Wed May 18 2011

Oh yeah, my Mabuchi RS-380PH also has the number RN546726 on it. Mean anything to you that I should know?


No, unfortunately, It doesn't mean anything to me. Probably just a part # from whoever sold it originally.

I am going to order speed controller parts soon. I want to use a volume control (potentiometer) for the adjustment control. Gotta raid my "parts bin". Any idea how much resistance might be needed? (20K ohm potentiometers I just saw at Radio Shack today, I think that will be way more than enough).

Tbkahuna
19:42:18 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm falling further behind!!! Arggggh.

I used a 5 watt, 100 ohm variable resistor for my mag motor speed control and got the rpm ranges I posted several weeks ago. I just calculated the range from what I wanted to end up with for voltage, used the max voltage and the current requirement of the motor to get resistance (R). V=IR. R=V/I.

I also have some high wattage fixed resistors to be able to switch speeds and have a (roughly) finite voltage drop and mag speed by just flipping a switch.

That's the brute force method, I guess.

Those were the resistors I bought when I bought some more Nichibo motors as my mag fleet expanded. All of it was from Jameco.

TBK



DUBB
21:01:23 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You are talking about a rheostat, that is the simplest, but least efficient way to go about it. You'd do better with a basic LM317 variable regulator (at least at my house, since I bought a dozen LM317's a while back, and still have a few). In that case, the variable resistor can be almost any, it depends on the fixed resistor you use for the R1 value, and the bonus is that you don't need it to be a huge rheostat, even just a trimpot will suffice. http://diyaudioprojects.com/Technical/Voltage-Regulator/
One of the neat things about that is that you could use 2 317's, and combine both of these together, voltage and current control, and you would have 2 knobs, those would control both the speed, and the torque, seperately.
However, this super simple basic brush motor speed controller has much more appeal to me, now, but possibly because I haven't built one yet.
http://www.diy-electronic-projects.com/p286-NE555-Basic-Monostable
If you decide on the last one, the basic speed controller, it wants a 10k ohm variable. I just found that one, and I have been looking for a project to controll a brusless speed controller, too, maybe I confused myself.
But the 317 setup has big appeal, going with a couple of 100 ohm pots is good there, since 100 ohms is the perfect variable to use for the current controller as well, and in that casse, a couple of 10 ohm resistors for the voltage controller is all you would need, on for the r1, and another to go inline with the 100 ohm pot for the r2 gives a 15v max, and it will have a maximum output of about 22 watts, that's a lot more than you can get out of TBK's 5 watt pot.

camracer
22:56:39 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Here's where I'm going with this. (No LM317) Using this:
(see page 21, fig. 33)
http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet2/6/0epqaz3x2s8gtglruwh4ik4ux67y.pdf


camracer
23:02:30 Wed
May 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 19:42:18 Wed May 18 2011

I'm falling further behind!!! Arggggh.

I used a 5 watt, 100 ohm variable resistor for my mag motor speed control and got the rpm ranges I posted several weeks ago. I just calculated the range from what I wanted to end up with for voltage, used the max voltage and the current requirement of the motor to get resistance (R). V=IR. R=V/I.

I also have some high wattage fixed resistors to be able to switch speeds and have a (roughly) finite voltage drop and mag speed by just flipping a switch.

That's the brute force method, I guess.

Those were the resistors I bought when I bought some more Nichibo motors as my mag fleet expanded. All of it was from Jameco.

TBK



TBK, See my last post. Been consulting with the Master: 'Sergey'. Going for efficiency. All should fit inside my prototype's body. ---Cam

DUBB
07:19:29 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 22:56:39 Wed May 18 2011

Here's where I'm going with this. (No LM317) Using this:
(see page 21, fig. 33)
http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet2/6/0epqaz3x2s8gtglruwh4ik4ux67y.pdf
I don't think that will be sufficient, or if it is, you are cutting in close with that regulator. 1 amp only, that means 15 watts. Consider, instead, an LM2576, the 3 amp version. The LM317 is 1.5 amps, which is enough, I think, but 1 amp might not be. Not to discourage you from the diy project, but I thought I should show you a couple that are ready made.
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SWADJ.htm
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SWADJ3.htm
These guys make the coolest regulator pakage of all, though, I think, this last one is the 3a "universal" regulator, it'll go up or down ("buck/boost"), so it can give your Drozd MORE than your batteries are. Expensive, though.
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/anyvolt3.htm

camracer
10:44:25 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 07:19:29 Thu May 19 2011

Quote: camracer at 22:56:39 Wed May 18 2011

Here's where I'm going with this. (No LM317) Using this:
(see page 21, fig. 33)
http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet2/6/0epqaz3x2s8gtglruwh4ik4ux67y.pdf
I don't think that will be sufficient, or if it is, you are cutting in close with that regulator. 1 amp only, that means 15 watts. Consider, instead, an LM2576, the 3 amp version. The LM317 is 1.5 amps, which is enough, I think, but 1 amp might not be. Not to discourage you from the diy project, but I thought I should show you a couple that are ready made.
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SWADJ.htm
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SWADJ3.htm
These guys make the coolest regulator pakage of all, though, I think, this last one is the 3a "universal" regulator, it'll go up or down ("buck/boost"), so it can give your Drozd MORE than your batteries are. Expensive, though.
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/anyvolt3.htm


Again your resourcefulness amazes me DUBB! Great finds. Only issue with the 2A version is it's 13v output. I need to push the limits or at least 21v.

The 3A version would do but it IS expensive and Bulky.

Yeah, I was wondering about that 1 amp output for the LM2575. I think I'll try that LM2576 you suggested. I think I may want to build the circuit so I can fit it inside the body of my prototype mag. ...but I suppose I could put it in the reservoir also..... hhhmmmnnn......
Still in the "study" stage and haven't ordered parts yet.

Thanks so much DUBB! ---Cam

DUBB
11:39:04 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just one thing, the protection diode (D1) will have to be different for the LM2576, it needs to be at least 3 amps, instead of just 1 amp. I read both data sheets. Otherwise they are the same.
I expect my new board today or tomorrow, I am so exited!
Say, I noticed you use the same data sheet source that I do. I made that into a drop-down search for IE7, 8, & 9, if you want it. One of the things I like about IE is that you can make just about any search engine from any site into a new search provider. The bitch was learning how those work, so I can export them. It's a registry entery, copy the following in notepad, and save as whatever, but make the extention .reg, instead of .txt, and click on it.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchScopes\{Electronic Parts Datasheets}]
"DisplayName"="Electronic Parts Datasheets"
"URL"="http://search.datasheetcatalog.net/key/{searchTerms}"
"Codepage"=dword:0000fde9
"OSDFileURL"="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/searchguide/spbuilder.mspx?Encoding=UTF-8&Name=Electronic%20Parts%20Datasheets&URI=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.datasheetcatalog.net%2Fkey%2FTEST"
"FaviconURL"="http://search.datasheetcatalog.net/favicon.ico"


SONYtec
12:41:04 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I like how they say, under the list of applications, "low voltage doomsday device." :lol:

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/anyvolt3.htm

DUBB
13:29:06 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You know what Cam, I did get confused on the project schematics I linked. I linked you to the circuit that drives a brushless speed controller, instead of the circuit for the brushed motor speed controller, here:
http://www.diy-electronic-projects.com/p145-PWM-Motor-Light-Controller
I hate when I do that.

camracer
23:19:53 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 12:41:04 Thu May 19 2011

I like how they say, under the list of applications, "low voltage doomsday device." :lol:

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/anyvolt3.htm


HAA! Haa! haa! They also listed, "Don't cross the blue wire with the 12v output". Especially if the battery is connected. Otherwise, ......BOOOOMMM! :lol:

camracer
23:44:12 Thu
May 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 13:29:06 Thu May 19 2011

You know what Cam, I did get confused on the project schematics I linked. I linked you to the circuit that drives a brushless speed controller, instead of the circuit for the brushed motor speed controller, here:
http://www.diy-electronic-projects.com/p145-PWM-Motor-Light-Controller
I hate when I do that.


Don't worry Pal!, I didn't even come close to catching that! I haven't studied anything yet.

I can build any circuit once I've studied it. But, "Tech" has far surpassed my 1980-1990 electronic knowledge!! I really NEED all the help I can get!! I still have circuit designs from 1989-1992 that could do what we are trying to do, but the components are discontinued! (......old people, huh, huh!)

Heh, ...We'll get it all RIGHT soon enough! Especially since you will HAVE to solve some of the problems real soon, once you get the SB-2!! :lol: It's all good! We have a great "crew" here!! We'll git' 'er done. ---See Ya!





SONYtec
00:54:06 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:19:53 Thu May 19 2011

Quote: SONYtec at 12:41:04 Thu May 19 2011

I like how they say, under the list of applications, "low voltage doomsday device." :lol:

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/anyvolt3.htm


HAA! Haa! haa! They also listed, "Don't cross the blue wire with the 12v output". Especially if the battery is connected. Otherwise, ......BOOOOMMM! :lol:


Yup!!! :rolleyes:

DUBB
02:51:31 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well I don't pretend to have any real electronics education beyond the very basics that a mechanic needs, but I have surprising success winging it: LOOK for anything resembling charcoal, or signs of scorching. Then you put the number of the offending into the datasheet search engine I shared, and see if you learn anything. Actually, I made search drop downs for Digikey, and Mouser, too, so I just continue on by switching the DD, and the search transfers so that I can find out how much a new whatever it was, is. That's how I learned, anyway. Self Education: teaching yourself something you know absolutely nothing about, for the same reason, and crossing your fingers.

radical
03:41:20 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

That's how I learned, anyway. Self Education: teaching yourself something you know absolutely nothing about, for the same reason, and crossing your fingers.


Self taught and ability to improvise and research are the assets. Heck, if a guy can become a multimillionaire and not be able to read, imagine the shear depth of character to get there!. Its good to be taught the basics and given some guidelines or parameters, the rest is up to the individual!

Like tonight. I pulled one of the firearms I know little about. Had not seen any internal diagrams or any other info. Just pooled my knowledge and went at it to solve a bolt locking up and feed problem. In 30 minutes I had completely striped it and adjusted and changed some things that didnt look right and back together. Now racks and drops perfectly. Sometimes I get into this zone where I find myself doing stuff and barely remembering after how I did it right at all. Know what I mean?

SONYtec
03:44:27 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Your lucky you haven't run across a part that was so toasted, it was burnt to a crisp, or blown to bits. Good luck searching that!!! :lol:

You need a schematic for that.

DUBB
10:21:17 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 03:41:20 Fri May 20 2011

Quote:

That's how I learned, anyway. Self Education: teaching yourself something you know absolutely nothing about, for the same reason, and crossing your fingers.


Self taught and ability to improvise and research are the assets. Heck, if a guy can become a multimillionaire and not be able to read, imagine the shear depth of character to get there!. Its good to be taught the basics and given some guidelines or parameters, the rest is up to the individual!

Like tonight. I pulled one of the firearms I know little about. Had not seen any internal diagrams or any other info. Just pooled my knowledge and went at it to solve a bolt locking up and feed problem. In 30 minutes I had completely striped it and adjusted and changed some things that didnt look right and back together. Now racks and drops perfectly. Sometimes I get into this zone where I find myself doing stuff and barely remembering after how I did it right at all. Know what I mean?
Ha, ha, I have one like that, a Savage-Stevens 820 12ga, one back from before they stamped numbers on them! Came to me missing a few parts, that's always my favorite, a puzzle without all the pieces. Figured it out though, and got lucky enough to find all but one part, which, when I got the rest (a risky investment, given that I never found that part, but it took long enough to find it all), I was able to fabricate. It works, now, and it's loaded and ready to go.

camracer
10:24:27 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
[quote=radical at [unixtime]1305862880[/unixtime]][quote]Sometimes I get into this zone where I find myself doing stuff and barely remembering after how I did it right at all. Know what I mean? [/quote]

Yup!

Before the internet, if I needed to fix something, I'd buy a book and learn all I could 'til I could fix it. Got quite a library! Now, I haven't bought a book in 10 years! So easy now to ''Google" a solution, and also get blogs and forums from others trying to do the same things! ....amazing!

radical
16:11:47 Fri
May 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

Ha, ha, I have one like that, a Savage-Stevens 820 12ga, one back from before they stamped numbers on them! Came to me missing a few parts, that's always my favorite, a puzzle without all the pieces. Figured it out though, and got lucky enough to find all but one part, which, when I got the rest (a risky investment, given that I never found that part, but it took long enough to find it all), I was able to fabricate. It works, now, and it's loaded and ready to go.


Thats a handsome pump action. Takes the 2 3/4 if I remember. Great home defense gun. A few inches shorter and it would be a great riot style. I have a Norinco Defender 5+1 12 gauge takes 3" and 2.75" Ghostring sites and steel receiver bottom eject. Heck of a gun for 200.00! Actually 147.00 on GB, New.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/NOR372-1.jpg

Also have a WesternField 550A 12 gauge with the shorter 18.5" barrel. Great HD gun. Dropped some change with an individual carrying to sell and shook hands and walked out the door with it. No call, nothing. Takes longer to get a cola from the drink stand! Thats Kansas!

http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8851397.0




Rubberratt
14:12:49 Sat
May 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello all,

I am new here and I am the guy who ordered (and received) Sergey's Ver #3 board ser #4

I am going to install the board next weekend, so I have been lurking and reading. I have a few quick questions, and maybe you all can help a noob out :wink:

I am thinking of running my gun on the Xeno 3.6V batteries, and I think that the board will handle that with no jumper moves right ??

I also am going to try to run the gun at 1400-1600 psi, and was looking for some tips/advice there (settings).

Thanks and Best Regards,
RR



DUBB
20:25:36 Sat
May 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Don't use more than 5 of those batteries, but use at least 4 if you are going to run 1600psi. I use 1600psi, and 3 won't open the valve enough. 6 of those will peak charge too high for the board. Those are rechargable, arent they? I would reccomend that you use 5 14500 lithium batteries (same size as "AA"), and one "dummy" battery, I'll look for a link I posted for those, and repost it for you.
edit: Here:
http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=2580
And here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultrafire-AA-AAA-Charger-2x-14500-Protected-3-6-Battery-/330428725148?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item4cef16379c
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x-New-14500-900mAh-3-6V-Lithium-Rechargeable-Battery-/270750181591?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item3f09f7e8d7

camracer
23:41:09 Sat
May 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Rubberratt! Welcome. Sergey's SB-2 will handle 24v. DON"T PUT MORE THAN 15V into your Blackbird's magazine. I've done 21v, but only for VERY short bursts. DON'T burn your motor out!

Advancements have moved far beyond Xeno batteries here. Xenos are a waste of money! Go rechargeable. Try the 14500 Trustfire protected cell rechargeables.

Let us know your issues as you run into them. We have a great "crew" here! ---Cam

DUBB
00:25:06 Sun
May 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:41:09 Sat May 21 2011

Hello Rubberratt! Welcome. Sergey's SB-2 will handle 24v. DON"T PUT MORE THAN 15V into your Blackbird's magazine. I've done 21v, but only for VERY short bursts. DON'T burn your motor out!

Advancements have moved far beyond Xeno batteries here. Xenos are a waste of money! Go rechargeable. Try the 14500 Trustfire protected cell rechargeables.

Let us know your issues as you run into them. We have a great "crew" here! ---Cam
Good point, I missed. Make sure that you set your jumper for 15v, that is what it is there for. The bypass is for those of us that have modded (if not entirely scratch built) magazines, that can take more power.
Use the link in the first post of the thread I linked, and get yourself one or two of those dummies, and the charger/14500's I linked you to, and run either 4 batts/2 dummies, or better, 5 batts/1 dummy.

DUBB
15:00:05 Sun
May 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Serial #5 delivered on time (exactly 2 weeks to Nevada), installed, and in love. I like that Sergey now includes a bit of dark, red, plexiglas, enough to make about 6 windows, the size I originally cut mine. I'll be putting that in shortly. As always, buttons are included as well, everything is of exceptional quality, I couldn't be happier with it, and I highly reccomend it, 2000 rounds per minute is an awsome thing!
That makes the Sergey Board well worth the investment, I hope the new boards do well, this makes all the difference, no original Drozd can touch this, modchip, or not.

"Got BB's?"

Thaks, again, Sergey, you have outdone yourself, again.

selway
03:14:12 Fri
Jun 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Was wondering how to hook up the jumper wire for 15 volts .I see the picture of where it ends on the pin by the mag but where does it come from.I have board #3 and this thing is a blast.Shot with hpa at 1600 psi at 21 plus volts for a very short time so as not to burn the motor out.This thing has some power unreal. thankx

DUBB
08:16:19 Fri
Jun 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Allright, I enumerated the pins as you are looking at the picture, from left to right, one, two, three. For 15v limit, put the jumper on pins one and two. To unlimit and run full battery voltage, put the jumper on pins 2 and 3.


Hows that?

Sergey_new_pcb
10:35:53 Fri
Jun 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Vice-versa.

selway
13:43:16 Fri
Jun 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Could you show with a arrow where the jumper wire goes .thanks

DUBB
14:00:28 Fri
Jun 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
OOPS, my bad. Then make that:
Jumper on pins 1 and 2 = Full unregulated battery voltage
Jumper on pins 2 and 3 = 15v, regulated


Better?

Sergey_new_pcb
16:07:59 Fri
Jun 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Correct now.

Selway, by jumper we mean small black plastic part, there is a conductor inside it. It can interconnect pins 1-2 or 2-3. Just keep it in 2-3 position.

camracer
00:14:27 Sat
Jun 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 14:00:28 Fri Jun 3 2011

OOPS, my bad. Then make that:
Jumper on pins 1 and 2 = Full unregulated battery voltage
Jumper on pins 2 and 3 = 15v, regulated


Better?


DAMN!!! Thanks DUBB! I just burned out my mag motor! ...now I'm gonna have to buy a WHOLE new gun! :lol: :rotflmao:

selway
01:27:51 Sat
Jun 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ok i see the pin and the little black square thing by it. What is it set at when it comes from Sergey.Is it at 15 volts now and can be changed to run more voltage to the mag by putting a jumper from 1 to 2. I just want to be sure Thankx.

selway
01:37:56 Sat
Jun 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I see how it works now theres a little cap on the black box that comes off and can be moved to 1and 2 or 2 and 3. It comes from Sergey on 2 and 3.Thankx eveybody got to go fire here up.

DUBB
03:38:01 Sat
Jun 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 00:14:27 Sat Jun 4 2011

Quote: DUBB at 14:00:28 Fri Jun 3 2011

OOPS, my bad. Then make that:
Jumper on pins 1 and 2 = Full unregulated battery voltage
Jumper on pins 2 and 3 = 15v, regulated


Better?


DAMN!!! Thanks DUBB! I just burned out my mag motor! ...now I'm gonna have to buy a WHOLE new gun! :lol: :rotflmao:

Is that like when you have to buy a new car because the ashtray is full? I ordered one of those new motors, now, and if you really did blow your motor, you can have my old one, I won't be needing that anymore...

camracer
11:48:59 Sat
Jun 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 03:38:01 Sat Jun 4 2011


Is that like when you have to buy a new car because the ashtray is full? I ordered one of those new motors, now, and if you really did blow your motor, you can have my old one, I won't be needing that anymore...


I was just being goofy!! :lol:

DUBB
20:52:38 Mon
Jun 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I got that new Nichibo motor in today, it's sweet, I'm running it with the 15v regulator (I dumped the jumper, and put in an spdt switch, instead). This is the perfect motor upgrade.

Tbkahuna
22:45:24 Mon
Jun 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB,

I really like that Nichibo motor. Hey, where did you mount the switch. I think that goes hand-in-hand with the variable resistor for the speed. We need a good place to mount the extras. I also wanted to use a switch to drop the voltage directly for a hi/low rpm setting for whatever max voltage you have available to the mag. Lots of possibilities.

TBK



camracer
23:51:17 Mon
Jun 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Use the old selector switch locations that we don't use anymore, just need some spdt switches. No better spot for controls. It's all ready to go!

I will use them myself soon.

DUBB, glad that Nichibo motor is working well! It sure does in my prototype mag! ---Cam

DUBB
04:56:52 Tue
Jun 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I put the switch in one of the old locations, but it's only a temporary arrangemet, it looks like I can just run it with 15v, and it will be happy. I reccomend against the resistor as a motor controller, it'll be really inefficient. I would go with one of two possible contenders, both of which are better. One is a PWM brush motor speed controller:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190539724702&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI
Or make a basic adjustable regulator based on an LM317, or similar regulator:
http://diyaudioprojects.com/Technical/Voltage-Regulator/
Consider something like one of those. If I need more motor speed control, I'll get me one of those PWM speed controllers, it's the most efficient of all of them.

camracer
10:29:33 Tue
Jun 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Another great find DUBB! I wonder what the regulator chip is in the first post?

I might just do that, 'cause I am short on free time.

Here's a 5A version (not that we will need that much current)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reversible-12-24V-5A-Motor-Speed-Control-PWM-Controller-/220779697139

DUBB
14:06:56 Tue
Jun 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I like how perfectly suited to integration into the project those are, being all bare pcb with the adjustment pot just hanging there, so you can mount it anywhere you can drill a hole, and concealing the pcb. All your protomag nees to support one of those is enough room for the pcb inside it somewhere. And like you pointed out, it can be done fast.

camracer
00:11:39 Wed
Jun 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Agreed DUBB! Thanks again. I am going to give it a try! What a time saver. I can for sure modify that set-up to fit my prototype. ...a little cutting, a little grinding....:tongue: ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
14:44:31 Thu
Jun 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The whole lot of boards are travelling to Canada plus one more to California.

SONYtec
14:46:32 Thu
Jun 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 14:44:31 Thu Jun 30 2011

The whole lot of boards are travelling to Canada plus one more to California.


Nice Sergey!!!

DUBB
21:36:37 Thu
Jun 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 14:44:31 Thu Jun 30 2011

The whole lot of boards are travelling to Canada plus one more to California.

I sure like hearing that, and that business is good for you, over there. I sure don't evey you having to eek out an existance is such a suffering economy. And gentlement don't discuss business insofar as bringing up money, but it's nice to know that you are busy, and that the new boards are selling. I hope that they are selling at least somewhat significanly better than the old versions, anyway. I had one of those, so I don't need to explain that I understood why they were the best, but most people spending money on an upgrade of any kind expect some kind of immediate gain of something. FPS comes from pressure, and although your boards allow for higher voltage, which you in turn need to run at the high pressures that we use to get really big increases in fps, and great adjustabilty (and that cool "puse rifle" led display), there wasn't much that could be gained there, except cyclic rate. I'm glad I suggested it, THAT is something that can't be had any other way, and certainly can't be bad for business. I knew I would have to buy another board for that, as did everyone here, who had one of your original boards. We are all about extremes around here, you know. I hope they are selling better, I don't have many good ideas, perportionally to the bad ones, especially if it helps out a friend who deserves it, in any way. I love mine, and NOW I can't think of anything that would make me like it any better. 2000prm is just awsome, the new sound is music to my ears. I just leave it at 2000rpm, unless I do the occasional single shots. I can't give anything a higher endorsement. For what it's worth, although I bought a BBMax chip at the same time I bought my Blackbird from ray, it was just to hold me over, until I could get the rest together, all the other upgrades that I wanted, I only bought mine because I wanted one of your boards, that was what sold me on the thing in the first place. That was just too cool not to have.

camracer
10:45:41 Fri
Jul 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Great Sergey, glad to hear that more will enjoy your circuit boards, and spread the word!

DUBB
20:32:26 Mon
Jul 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I screwed mine up. I think that the mag might have shorted, briefly, but now my motor doesn't stop running. I haven't test fired it otherwise. I had the jumper set for full battery voltage. hopefully it's something simple I can fix, a capacitor or a transistor, or something. I can deal with that. I'm thinking transistor.

Sergey_new_pcb
23:12:27 Mon
Jul 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You need to replace the transistor that turns the mag on and off. What's your board version? With or without DC-DC converter?

camracer
23:22:49 Mon
Jul 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB, I had that problem too! Sergey suggested also to me I put a .1uF ceramic capacitor connected across the motor terminals to prevent a "start-up" spike. Try that also after you repair the transistor (just an added "insurance..."). ---Cam

DUBB
00:23:52 Tue
Jul 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The new 2000rpm board, no switching regulator. I can't identify the transistor, is that a PNP or an NPN? I have all kinds of transistors around, and it looks like there is lots of room there, it should not be all that complicated to find a suitable replacement, in my collection.

DUBB
05:13:49 Tue
Jul 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have decided that it's a PNP transistor, I don't have any offhand, looking......

Sergey_new_pcb
16:50:53 Tue
Jul 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's a N-type MOSFET. Suggested replacement parts list is here:

IRLU024N (or Z),
IRLU120N (or Z),
IRLU3410...

and many other parts rated for 30+ volts, 5+ amperes, with "logic" level gate voltage. Before replacing the transistor please check there is no short circuit between the board and the mag.

DUBB
18:32:12 Tue
Jul 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's good news, I have lots of N channel mosfets.

DUBB
00:28:36 Wed
Jul 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
FIXED IT, with a 9N50 N channel mosfet I had in the stash. Thanks for the advice and otherwise educating me again, Sergey. That sucker should dissipate heat better, anyway, it's a lot bigger.
I have another contender, though. A 5N60 that I think would work, too.

SONYtec
14:22:53 Wed
Jul 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 00:28:36 Wed Jul 6 2011

FIXED IT, with a 9N50 N channel mosfet I had in the stash. Thanks for the advice and otherwise educating me again, Sergey. That sucker should dissipate heat better, anyway, it's a lot bigger.
I have another contender, though. A 5N60 that I think would work, too.


Nice work.

DUBB
22:00:20 Wed
Jul 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I changed the mosfet again, I found an IRLZ44N and used that instead. I also put a 1 amp fuse in between the board, and the contacts on the reciever I made for the mag motor circuit. If it ever shorts there again, it'll take out that fuze first. This mosfet is rated for 55v and 47 amps, so fuzes should protect it pretty well.

Sergey_new_pcb
00:00:42 Thu
Jul 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Four more people are thrilled waiting for the boards to arrive. :smile:

Sergey_new_pcb
10:43:10 Thu
Jul 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
By the way, there was a queue of people waiting for the the boards in June. I had to work really hard and now there is only one person left waiting for his board. If you plan to get one, please contact me beforehand.

SONYtec
14:34:46 Thu
Jul 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good do see you are busy Sergey.

Busy means money. :smile:

DUBB
09:11:46 Sat
Jul 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
See, I knew 2000 rpm would move boards. That's something more, that you can't get any other way. And worth every bit of it, too. People tend to be essentially stupid and greedy, and can't see past "What more does this do, and how much of it do I get for my money?" 2000 rounds per minute, and a lot of bla, bla, bla, subtlties that are lost on most people. But the 2000 rpm, that they hear right away.

SONYtec
18:48:03 Sat
Jul 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yup, it's all about the hype stuff for sure.

That's what sells products.

camracer
23:06:23 Sat
Jul 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Gotta put my word out. Awesome!! Nothin' more said. (but sooo much more to say! :lol: ) Just figure this out, ...soon it won't be an "exclusive" club for pushing the boundaries! I still know this will be an amazing year for the Drozd! Any "newbie" reading this... Prepare your self for a whole new world!!!! ---Cam

DUBB
03:43:20 Sun
Jul 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
There is no fun in staying ahead of the pack, unless we give them something enough to keep them right on our heels. At least keep them in close enough to still count as in the same race.

Sergey_new_pcb
06:56:46 Sun
Jul 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Four more boards are shipped.

drozdandconfused
15:33:16 Tue
Jul 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Congrats Sergey, that's great news that your board is selling so well!!! I guess modding the BB is like modding cars and motorcycles, if the upgrade can give me more HP, I have to have it! Speed, power, more speed, more power!!!:smash:

camracer
00:59:26 Wed
Jul 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozdandconfused at 15:33:16 Tue Jul 19 2011

Congrats Sergey, that's great news that your board is selling so well!!! I guess modding the BB is like modding cars and motorcycles, if the upgrade can give me more HP, I have to have it! Speed, power, more speed, more power!!!:smash:


Elwood: "... its got a cop motor. A 440 cubic inch plant. Its got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks ... the model made before catalytic converters so it will run good on regular gas ... what do you say, is it the new Blues Mobile or what?
John Belushi: ... fix the cigarette lighter ...

:lol: What else do we need to add!?

DUBB
08:02:44 Sun
Jul 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey, question: how long does the mag run initially on power on? Is that 5 seconds? I'm trying to calculate bb flow rates based on how many dump out when I power up with the ramp removed. I can work that with a digital scale.

Sergey_new_pcb
08:42:32 Sun
Jul 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Greetings DUBB and all.

It's 2.5 seconds or so on power-up and 0.5 seconds after each shot.

DUBB
11:53:27 Sun
Jul 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks, that's good news, it doubles my otherwise dismal numbers! The mag has to really work to feed 2000 bb's per minute. Good thing you made that jumper, too, since I put in one of those Nichibo motors, I can use it.

Sergey_new_pcb
11:03:43 Wed
Jul 27 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Canada-Russia: 1/1 :smile:

Sergey_new_pcb
11:04:14 Wed
Aug 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Two more full auto mod boards for Drozd Blackbird are on the way to the US and Canada.

camracer
14:50:41 Wed
Aug 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 11:04:14 Wed Aug 10 2011

Two more full auto mod boards for Drozd Blackbird are on the way to the US and Canada.


"High Five" brother! :tongue:

Sergey_new_pcb
16:24:16 Thu
Aug 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I sent out a lot of ver.3 boards in the last couple of months. Dear owners, why don't you post your pictures and videos in this thread?

If you want to stay anonimous just send your photos to my e-mail (e-go[at]inbox[d0t]ru) or post them to any photos storage service and then send me the link. I'll place your photos here. There haven't been any new pictures here for a while.

Yours,
Sergey.

camracer
00:14:13 Fri
Aug 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 16:24:16 Thu Aug 18 2011

I sent out a lot of ver.3 boards in the last couple of months. Dear owners, why don't you post your pictures and videos in this thread?

If you want to stay anonimous just send your photos to my e-mail (e-go[at]inbox[d0t]ru) or post them to any photos storage service and then send me the link. I'll place your photos here. There haven't been any new pictures here for a while.

Yours,
Sergey.


I'd love to see what our friends here are doing with their installs!! Please ask any advice on the install. We're here to help! ---Cam





Sergey_new_pcb
16:07:50 Sat
Sep 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
St. Petersburg (Russia) and Nevada.

Still waiting for your cool pictures here.

Sergey.

camracer
00:09:22 Mon
Sep 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 16:07:50 Sat Sep 3 2011

St. Petersburg (Russia) and Nevada.

Still waiting for your cool pictures here.

Sergey.


YEAH!! ....Me and everyone else!! Let's see those install photos folks!! :smash: ---Cam

SONYtec
04:00:25 Mon
Sep 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Pictures are a must.

DUBB
09:07:19 Mon
Sep 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Although this is a new pic, mine has been around awhile, I had the v2 board, already, so I didn't have to do anything but drop the v3 board in. But lead by example, here's mine.


deuce217
05:07:14 Tue
Sep 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey, I know I must be the typical guy asking but... How much does your board cost? Thanks, Evan Toland

Oh, and if I do get the board I will post pics of the install and finished product.

DUBB
06:07:02 Tue
Sep 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: deuce217 at 05:07:14 Tue Sep 6 2011

Hey, I know I must be the typical guy asking but... How much does your board cost? Thanks, Evan Toland

Oh, and if I do get the board I will post pics of the install and finished product.

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 09:16:48 Thu Apr 14 2011

As I don't need to make DC-DC converter any more, the new board price is reduced to USD 120.

Here's my contact info:
E-mail: e-go@inbox.ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-950-177-2500.

Yours,
Sergey Pismensky.


deuce217
03:07:03 Wed
Sep 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks for the quick response. Why does the need for the dc-dc go away? Thanks

DUBB
05:27:09 Wed
Sep 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: deuce217 at 03:07:03 Wed Sep 7 2011

Thanks for the quick response. Why does the need for the dc-dc go away? Thanks
It doesn't, but Sergey initially kept the motor voltage at 9v, like the factory intended, so he built a switching type regulator, since "buck" regulators simply waste the difference as heat, and 9v is a lot of difference (Sergey's boards can go up to 24v). But I whined for 12v, early on, 1200 wants it, and appearantly, everyone did, and he kept doing it. But to pump 2000 rpm, we need even more power to the motor, so building a switching regulator is a moot point. Sergey used a 7815, 15v buck, with a bypass circuit, in case you don't have 15v, in which case you bypass, and use all of whatever you have. So there is still a regulator, it just doesnt regulate nearly as much, so it can be simple. I love this arrangement, since I modded up the motor, with the Nichibo M24 that can handle 30v, I can violate the rule: I bypass to go over 15v, I'm giving min 5S lithiums, that peak at 21v, and I still get airshots. Anything more than 15v will toast your stock mag motor, don't do it.

Sergey_new_pcb
09:48:48 Wed
Sep 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Dubb.

Right, the detailed explanation is in the very first message.

Sergey.

camracer
23:34:18 Wed
Sep 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I still have to say I Love your avatar Sergey. Vleydek Sheybal also was in "From Russia With Love". A GREAT James Bond classic. "Red Dawn" was a great movie also! Go, Wolverines!! ---Cam

green_dots
17:28:41 Thu
Sep 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Getting my BB with the new board to fire strongly at 1800-2000rpm.Final the mag and board is in my BB and firing and feeding. At above 1800rpm, there is a gaint burrrr but little power. This is with 14 volts. WOULD using HPA at 1600psi help? I will try it in the coming days. Maybe the cold co2 cannot properly change from lequid to gas. Any THOUGHTS OUT THERE? I also have a much stronger motor.The very short time the valve is open may prosper with higher hpa psi. GD.

brunell505
18:03:53 Thu
Sep 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
you need more voltage, 14 wont cut it. Try Lithium ion batteries rated at 3.7 you can charge them to 4.2 and they are the same size as AA batteries. I run 18v or so and could jack it up to 20+ if neccesary. at 1400 psi its great. You are going to need higher voltage at higher psi either way due to the increased pressure from the valve that the soleniod will have to open. also, try cutting your pulse setting down. it would be interesting to see if it has any affect. (less millisecond extended leaves more time for more shots)


also I would lean towards gun preservation over performance here. If you can get 1800 I would be happy with that as opposed to potentially ruining something getting that extra 100-200 shots per minute. At 1800, increasing to 1900 is barely a 6% increase. It will probably be unnoticeable seeing as you will only be getting an extra 2-3 shots off every second in addition to the 30 shots you are already getting :smile:

30 shots per second...jesus, just think about that - at 900fps (which is where I am shooting) each bb is delivering roughly 10 ft/lbs of energy concentrated within a 4.5mm area - but the bb is rounded, so initial contact has about a 2mm diameter impact zone. This "toy" of yours has the ability to deliver nearly 300 pounds of energy to your target every second... and to think this thing is 100 percent legal to own unregistered simply because it is pneumatic... wow

green_dots
19:47:01 Thu
Sep 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Brunell 505.Some very interesting thoughts on the energy thses guns are delivering.WOW. I 've got 4 4.2 lithium rechargeables.I am charging then now. They put togther with 2 1.6 lithiums should give me 20 volts. Your info on the voltage is great news. I also have a charged 1600+psi Hpa tank.I was able to hit 1065fps with this tank with a drill pack putting out 18-20 volts.The thing about the drill pack is when freshly charged,it never fades. GD.

brunell505
20:20:42 Thu
Sep 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
my setup is a 15 inch barrel with 1400 psi. some basic pot adjustments and increased voltage with an upgraded valve puts me right in the 900 area. I imagine your setup with 1600 and a 15 or 23 inch barrel would have you in the 1000-1100 fps range which is a beautiful thing. unfortunatley these bbs are so light that they zip off to the side after about 30 yards since they are moving so darn fast.

with 8 grain lead the energy is 15ft pounds :smile: - a bow is about 80 some ft pounds, most handguns deliver a couple hundred pounds per shot - 9mm is around 3-400 per shot, accurately with a little practice you could tap 2 rounds per second.

either way I have always stressed that these things are pnuematic weapons and should be treated as such. let us know if you hit the 2000 mark. 35 shots per second w lead at 15 pounds a shot... 525 ft/lbs per second... that is serious sh*t

green_dots
21:40:03 Thu
Sep 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello 505.You need to take a look at my postings on making a drozd 6mm. It worked real well. I attached a 6mm smooth bore barrel to the 4.5 barrel and added a 175 round AK 47 style mag. It was shooting about 670fps but thee was much more for sure. I was using 6mm .20 gram tracer ammo with a tracer unit attached and every 2 or 3rd round was an explosive round.What a friggen light and sound show.It was pretty loud. Had a round exploded in the mag and that ended that for a little while.I have found a softer mid cap mag, and that should solve the problem. What I haven't tried and I will ,are 6mm steel shot. I ws just using co2 and with hpa at 1600,it would be insane.Maybe throw a tracer and exposive round in for fun. GD. PS. I had a modded valve and 23 inch barrel when I reached 1065fps.The thing was crazy loud and would sahoot through 3/4 inch plywood on single shot.I didn't try 1 inch but for sure it would shoot through.

camracer
23:43:27 Thu
Sep 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes!! Anyone new here,...... GreenDots has pushed the limits!! He is the Feet Per Second KING!! He certainly has a lot of respect from me and ALL! :tongue:

The new SB-2 2000rpm board will CERTAINLY take some time to get perfect. The Nichibo motor TBkahuna an I have been using in our prototype projects and transitioned to the Blackbird mag with DUBB's trials seems to be on the right direction. It works great in my prototype...

Voltage is key, with that right (Nichibo) motor. If you are pushing 2000 rpm, you will push 21+ volts to get it working right. DO NOT attempt this with the stock Russian dpk25-2-4-12 BB motor! It will die quick. Keep that motor under 16v! ....and that's pushing it's life.

I recommend Trustfire 18650's for batteries. Great battery life. Go external for the battery pack. DrozdandConfusued first made the "dynamite stick" battery pack which I think is great! Ya just can't stuff enough mAh life into the stock battery wells. There are some other great battery pack mods out here to try also. Drill packs are great! --Cam


Sergey_new_pcb
17:03:10 Wed
Sep 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Two more boards are on the way to Canada.

camracer
01:07:10 Thu
Sep 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:03:10 Wed Sep 14 2011

Two more boards are on the way to Canada.


Nice!!

So what's the official count now Sergey???? How many lucky bastards have your ingenuity right now???? I'm too lazy to go back and count 'em up!! :smash:

The "Exclusive Club" is sure getting smaller!!! :tongue: ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
01:18:30 Fri
Sep 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm making #30 ver.3 board now. It'll travel to California in a couple of days. It's gonna look like this:



Plus some 30+ boards of previous discontinued type with DC-DC converter:



Plus some prehistoric non-Blackbird boards that looked as ugly as that:



netstamp
04:01:18 Fri
Sep 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sucks you never received my money order... Oh well still love the mod !

camracer
10:34:15 Fri
Sep 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Congradulations Sergey! Your sales are doing very well!! Do you ask people outside this forum who have bought your boards where they found you?

I would be curious to know if any of my Youtube videos helped you out? ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
11:19:01 Fri
Sep 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sure, youtube helps a lot. Thanks Bubb, Camracer, DrozdAndConfused and all. You're a great company.

DUBB
20:11:26 Sat
Sep 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just out of curiosity, do you mind if I ask how these are doing compared to the old ones? No offense, of course, if you decline to answer, business is business, and there are likely consideratations to complicate a definative determination: business can be like that, I can relate.

I'm going to get a video together, here, shortly, and it might be "tandom" with the other board you just sent out here to the desert. It will make a bitching video, I have saved 2 crt monitors, and one color television set for the event.

camracer
00:06:44 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 11:19:01 Fri Sep 16 2011

Sure, youtube helps a lot. Thanks Bubb, Camracer, DrozdAndConfused and all. You're a great company.


You are most certainly welcome, my friend! You will always have my support!! What a great engineer you are! ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
04:26:15 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Greetings Dubb and all.

Please understand I'm not trying to hide any information but your question is not that easy to answer. First of all, I appreciate your idea and initiative to re-design it to 2000 RPM. You gave the board a good kick and many people should be grateful to you for this. I never accumulated and analysed any statistical data on the boards sales. Of course I noticed some obvious demand deviations -- people tend to spend money before Christmas, for example. But there are some "misterious" peculiarities in customers' activity -- it's a riddle for me, both Russians and Western people are subject to some moon phase, Sun spots or something else's influence. I first noticed it when I established my first Russian web-site in 2003. There are periods when people are not active at all and you can't tell why and vice-versa. For example, I had many orders in June, both, from Russia and North America. Three weeks of August were dead on both continents. The last August week and September are different again -- lots of e-mails every day. I'm sure you were asking if going to 2000 RPM gave the board more popularity but, again, it's a matter of something misterious in human nature. Anyway, I do appreciate your understanding and assistance. You actually help me to survive in modern Russia, a country which is not so easy to live in. If anyone of you decides to come to Russia, I'll show you what I mean. It'll be like watching last days of Maya civilisation. Believe it or not, USSR used to be the most progressive state in the world for half a century but modern Russia is going back to Dark Ages. If you decide to take a look at it, please grab Mr. Green Dots and bring him along with you -- he's a great person and I talked to him about it many times. Some things I told him about are so hard to believe so the only way to make sure it wasn't my paranoidal fantasy is to come and see everything with your own eyes.

radical
04:39:48 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Your English is good. "Mysterious" Your efferts are much appreciated selling and shipping your board. Im sure all of us here will do what we can when/ if you have the need-Rad

Sergey_new_pcb
05:02:33 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks. Mysterious.

DUBB
11:32:41 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Economic markets are very hard to gauge, I understand that. And you are right about the moon, my own mother was a police dispatcher, and any of them, or even the police themselves will tell you that nights of a full moon are their busiest. Nobody knows why, but it's true about the moon doing that for some reason. I watched some movie about an American tourist in Russia, and there was a scene where they passed a huge, abandoned apartment complex, and he asked the driver about it and the driver says "Soviets". he then asks, "what happened?" and the driver replied "Glastnost" (hope I spelled that right). It's too bad, what most Americans can't understand is that democracy and capitolism simply doesn't work for everyone, everywhere else. Even the Romans couldn't sustain it.

camracer
14:28:59 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
[quote=Sergey_new_pcb at [unixtime]1316319975[/unixtime]]Greetings Dubb and all.

Please understand I'm not trying to hide any information but your question is not that easy to answer. First of all, I appreciate your idea and initiative to re-design it to 2000 RPM. You gave the board a good kick and many people should be grateful to you for this. I never accumulated and analysed any statistical data on the boards sales. Of course I noticed some obvious demand deviations -- people tend to spend money before Christmas, for example. But there are some "misterious" peculiarities in customers' activity -- it's a riddle for me, both Russians and Western people are subject to some moon phase, Sun spots or something else's influence. I first noticed it when I established my first Russian web-site in 2003. There are periods when people are not active at all and you can't tell why and vice-versa. For example, I had many orders in June, both, from Russia and North America. Three weeks of August were dead on both continents. The last August week and September are different again -- lots of e-mails every day. I'm sure you were asking if going to 2000 RPM gave the board more popularity but, again, it's a matter of something misterious in human nature. Anyway, I do appreciate your understanding and assistance. You actually help me to survive in modern Russia, a country which is not so easy to live in. If anyone of you decides to come to Russia, I'll show you what I mean. It'll be like watching last days of Maya civilisation. Believe it or not, USSR used to be the most progressive state in the world for half a century but modern Russia is going back to Dark Ages. If you decide to take a look at it, please grab Mr. Green Dots and bring him along with you -- he's a great person and I talked to him about it many times. Some things I told him about are so hard to believe so the only way to make sure it wasn't my paranoidal fantasy is to come and see everything with your own eyes. [/quote]

My business drops off in July and August also Sergey. Then in September it picks up again. I believe it has to do with the time of year people like to take vacations. September picks up in correlation with kids going back to school, and parents can put a little attention elsewhere... hhhhmmmnnn.... ---Cam

caLvinkyle
14:39:33 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I am amazed with that... i appreciate every discussion in this forum... makes me learn a lot of things..

caLvinkyle
14:40:44 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 09:07:19 Mon Sep 5 2011

Although this is a new pic, mine has been around awhile, I had the v2 board, already, so I didn't have to do anything but drop the v3 board in. But lead by example, here's mine.


where did you found this? this is just so amazing..

SONYtec
20:39:33 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dubb owns that.

SONYtec
20:46:49 Sun
Sep 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Forgot to post the link,

http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=2763

gy954
17:04:40 Mon
Sep 19 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi all:

Sergey writes that my board #30 is on its way. That means I'll have to get to work installing it. Any hints on that process would be much appreciated. (I've got a DrozdMax with the long barrel but still using 88 gram CO2.) Any suggestions on the voltage? I'm running 12 now.

Thanks. / Greg

camracer
00:15:00 Tue
Sep 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: gy954 at 17:04:40 Mon Sep 19 2011

Hi all:

Sergey writes that my board #30 is on its way. That means I'll have to get to work installing it. Any hints on that process would be much appreciated. (I've got a DrozdMax with the long barrel but still using 88 gram CO2.) Any suggestions on the voltage? I'm running 12 now.

Thanks. / Greg


Read through this thread gy954, It'll show you how to do the install:
http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=2174&postnum=19&highlight=sergey%27s%20board

Sergey_new_pcb
16:34:40 Tue
Sep 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Indonesia joins the club.

Samtjioe
16:46:09 Tue
Sep 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hallo Sergey, hope the board arrived soon.

camracer
00:22:30 Wed
Sep 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 16:34:40 Tue Sep 20 2011

Indonesia joins the club.


COOL! The World's getting smaller! ....For Samtjioe? Anyway Welcome Indonesia!! Your the first here!

Samtjioe
03:44:37 Wed
Sep 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Camracer, need to learn alot from all of you

camracer
10:48:40 Wed
Sep 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Samtjioe at 03:44:37 Wed Sep 21 2011

Thanks Camracer, need to learn alot from all of you


You're welcome! We have ALL the answers to your questions here. ---Cam

SONYtec
03:07:37 Thu
Sep 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Samtjioe at 03:44:37 Wed Sep 21 2011

...need to learn alot from all of you


That's what this forum is about, sharing information to help everyone, from everyone.

Samtjioe
16:34:49 Thu
Sep 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks SONYtec

SONYtec
02:01:44 Sat
Sep 24 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Your welcome, but I am just a small part of this board.

Sergey_new_pcb
16:12:50 Tue
Sep 27 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Canada, USA (California) and now...

Norway joins the club!

CannonFodder
16:31:33 Tue
Sep 27 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi Sergey

Was wondering how much will you charge for 20+ boards and if some kind of discount would be available ?


Thanks

camracer
23:58:38 Tue
Sep 27 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Twenty!! Wow!

radical
01:01:36 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
We need distributers here to help Serge concentrate on opening up his market.

CannonFodder
02:06:42 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:58:38 Tue Sep 27 2011

Twenty!! Wow!


My friend would be willing to buy larger quantities even 40 pieces first order, shipping to NA wouldnt take more then 5 business days that's why I do believe most people are turned off with 1 month give or take few days delivery.

Depending on how fast it would go next order could be 400 pieces...

motrdyd
05:42:43 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just a good site for Sergey would do it we all would would just have to help drive traffic to it by banner or link exchange with the online websites that sell the blackbird I have space on my server to make him a website I'd love to help him out make n the site is nothing he just needs a merchant account or paypal account
Let me know guys what the name of the site should b but don't buy it
I will cuz it's easier for me to hook it to my server if not we have to go thru a transfer which SUCKS and I can make multiple FTPs so people can also mess with the site
Hit me up
MOTRDYD

camracer
10:23:15 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well, this is certainly good news! Hopefully this will work out. ---Cam

CannonFodder
14:21:36 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The biggest obstacle is the delivery time. Also if there is success (and I have no doubt about that) will he be able to produce 5 000 units a month ?

Fedex 3-5 business days $200 no idea how much they would charge for overnight.

green_dots
18:57:24 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Russia is not the US.It is a huge country.I believe it has something like 10 times zone.Also things do not work as well as in North Amreica. There is also some corruption.My last parcel from Sergey took way less than 10 days.There is tracking and different levels of speed of delivery. Things happen more slowly there.

camracer
23:45:20 Wed
Sep 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: green_dots at 18:57:24 Wed Sep 28 2011

Russia is not the US.It is a huge country.I believe it has something like 10 times zone.Also things do not work as well as in North Amreica. There is also some corruption.My last parcel from Sergey took way less than 10 days.There is tracking and different levels of speed of delivery. Things happen more slowly there.


Agreed with GD! Sergey will enlighten you about the economy there. Not good at all! We all support our friend Sergey here, and I gotta say, help him as well!! Hope there will be a Blooming relationship for you all!! ---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
00:20:54 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
20, 40, 400 or 5000? Production strategy depends on it.

CannonFodder
00:44:34 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: green_dots at 18:57:24 Wed Sep 28 2011

Russia is not the US.It is a huge country.I believe it has something like 10 times zone.Also things do not work as well as in North Amreica. There is also some corruption.My last parcel from Sergey took way less than 10 days.There is tracking and different levels of speed of delivery. Things happen more slowly there.


I'm aware of that, especially when in 1968 whole east Block invaded our country, ran with tanks over our students.
The sad thing is not even Soldiers knew what they are doing in our country, we were strategic ally.

Russia is the largest land mass and I know exactly how it's working there, the same way it worked at us after 1989.

There is not some corruption, there is corruption everywhere.

Sergey I know your reasons for staying there but sooner or later you will have to choose your path :smile:

CannonFodder
00:50:38 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 00:20:54 Thu Sep 29 2011

20, 40, 400 or 5000? Production strategy depends on it.


I will email you tomorrow.
I can help you start and then you will be dealing with the buyer directly.

radical
01:16:43 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
If this is a serious attempt to get something real going, Im ready to put my stock in. Why not have everyone on the board have the option? Theres money to be made in this. But like its said: "It takes money to make money" I am getting older and we all have the enthusiasm in the evolution of our passtime to just maybe make it continue to move forward.

brunell505
02:06:33 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
There's no reason we should bear the costs of baikal's US advertising.

More drozds sell = more drozd owners wanting to upgrade their guns. This equals more Sergy boards being created.


You want to capitalize on an untouched market? It's the guys that buy the gat and auto burst / tri burst triggers. The ones that don't mind dropping 200 bucks on ammo just to shoot it full auto for 10 seconds. Put an upgraded drozd like ours shooting 1200 rps and 1000 fps in their hands and I promise you demand will come to fruition overnight. Cost vs fun you can't beat it.

Everyone looks down on these "bb guns" - truth is these aren't bb guns. They are 4.5mm pneumatic sub machine guns. 900fps is handgun speed. We hit that number all day long shooting 20 shots per second. Unregistered and cheap as hell to take to the range. Make gun enthusiasts understand that and demand will hit and all time high, and god knows sergys business will skyrocket.



radical
03:12:37 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well put b5! Id like a piece of that pie wouldnt you!?

motrdyd
03:22:13 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just have a centralized guy that the website will send the order to to cut down on delivery time

motrdyd
03:25:14 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's got a be a honor system but everybody can see the orders from there computer like I said before I got web space and I can build sites


I looked last nite at domains like www.sergeyboards.com
Let me know if I can help k

CannonFodder
08:07:53 Thu
Sep 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
But the website has to be connected to a bank and you have to bring your business deed so the bank will allow you to accept credit cards. At least that's how it was couple years ago in Canada. And having website with just one product isn't wise. The site will have to have airguns including Baikal guns and as many mods as possible.
The target is NA market. Here in Canada it's like cave for certain products, nothing is available, I have to buy even damn fishing rods in states because the ones here are a.) overpriced b.) not available at all

I said before I can help Sergey start I don't want money for it, I'm not affiliated with any gun store or working for one.
But I know once the orders will be placed it will be bank transfers not WU, what's the fee ? for 1g it's over $100 isn't it ?

In what time zone do you live in Sergey ...compared to Prague/Bratislava/Vienna ?

And yes you are right, fully moded Drozd will beat even 50cal rifle. The .50 cal will do a 50cal hole of course lol and at the same time Drozd will do a hole the size of fist.

unless you break the safety switch like I did :lol:

radical
00:38:25 Fri
Sep 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 03:25:14 Thu Sep 29 2011

It's got a be a honor system but everybody can see the orders from there computer like I said before I got web space and I can build sites


I looked last nite at domains like www.sergeyboards.com
Let me know if I can help k


I agree with motrdyd, a web site to get more input and recognition to give a better pic of where the idea could go.

SONYtec
00:55:43 Fri
Sep 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It would help with distribution for sure.

netstamp
13:25:40 Fri
Sep 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Getting a merchant account is simple. I have 2 . The website is not connoted to the bank. The merchant account that processes the cards is what is linked. Read authorize.net for Info. Call your local bank so set up a merchant account. The fees are based are card type and volume. I offered to distribute for sergy as well . The fees for example might be .40 cents per transaction and 3% of the gross per month. Simply factor the month end off the net and the balance is what will be in the bank. Typically takes 2 days to see the money in your bank account from the time your run a credit card. Hope that helped. I would be happy to answer any questions. Why do I have 2 ? To be diversified and in case one gets tech issues.

I have had net business going back to the early 90s and learned it while a trader on wall street for 18 years.


radical
20:40:50 Fri
Sep 30 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Anyone disagree that this isnt a potentional path for the future of the BB, Drozd and this board and us? Creativity and advances wont stop and we'd be making some change for our efforts. Its time.-Rad

CannonFodder
23:04:30 Sat
Oct 1 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
So someone is going to start the website with merchant account ?

There is definately potential, tbh, quite a few drozd owners have no idea there is such a mod (Sergey), I found this site by "accident" was looking for some mods, got here, tried to sign up, didn't work, Sergey posted the problem in developers forum and problem solved :lol:

motrdyd
04:49:44 Sun
Oct 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Like I said before I can do all that I have the server space

Do you guys like www.sergeyboards.com if so I will buy it
But if I'm gona host don't buy the domain tell me and I will cuz
If you guys buy buy the domain then we have to do a transfer it's a pain
So PM me and let me know about names also I can make a bunch of
FTP users and everybody's own email addresses so everyone can make
Changes to the site and so on and so on

motrdyd
05:00:24 Sun
Oct 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The other thing are we doing this for Sergey or just a group thing cuz the merch acc or paypal should be in Sergey name so the funds go straight to him or as I said before a centralize place to ship from the orders will go to that person but then we all as a group have to buy a bunch of boards from him I'd like just to hook him up and us all just be reps for his boards and we make a group site to sell drozds and other stuff like that
But till we figure that out well first of all may I join the group of guys that started the idea ? And if so let me know if u want me to host the site
For www.sergeyboards.com or what ever you guys Wana call it

motrdyd
05:16:34 Sun
Oct 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ok I just got sergeyboards.com first step done
Let just put up some sorta site and he can use paypal or Godaddy has something he really dosent need a merchant acc cuz then he has to register the business but paypal he dosent so I say all of us together
Can figure out something so PM me or get ahold of me or whatever
And I will make FTP acc# and email acc# it's easier than you guys think
We can hook it to eBay amazon all sorta stuff

motrdyd
00:08:09 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
www.sergeyboards.com is up and running
i just did it real fast last nite

radical
00:21:10 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Excellent. Checking it out tonight.

motrdyd
00:32:56 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey it's super simple guys so b easy on me but let me know what should
Be changed and I'm still working on a credit card solution for sergey

camracer
00:37:21 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very nice work motrdyd!

Sergey, How do you feel about it? ---Cam

camracer
00:51:14 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
What else could be added to the site?

How 'bout a links "tab" Drozd videos on Youtube. My videos and DrozdandConfused's that we have done could for sure help sell boards (poor quality as mine are...)

Comments/questions area?

Others?? ---Cam



radical
01:34:58 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thread links to FAQ's?

motrdyd
02:15:23 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
i just tweaked the site alittle more i like comments so if u can go check it out now i like it alot
and id like a list of guys who has his boards installed i dont know how to do that in this form who ever wants to work on the site hit me up for ftp user and email addresses and we need to make banners to trade with other sites to drive traffic soon ya know how people were talking about merchant accounts i looked into them for international just the app fee
700.00 was the cheapest lol crooks

who runs this site?
i just wanted to make sure its cool that i used the url to link to this fourm

motrdyd
02:23:25 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
hey cam

i added a related link to the youtube our i can add specific
links just post the link in your post and tell me if you want it as
a source link or video like whats on there i basically picked one
to get it up i can change anything

deuce217
06:05:09 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I like the site idea, let me know if I can help.

motrdyd
06:36:08 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
hey sergey
i updated the site from your email buddy check it out and see if i missed anything k

camracer
10:47:30 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 02:23:25 Tue Oct 4 2011

hey cam

i added a related link to the youtube our i can add specific
links just post the link in your post and tell me if you want it as
a source link or video like whats on there i basically picked one
to get it up i can change anything


I like what you did with DrozdandConfused's video. Nice! You can use my videos any way you need to. You are the expert. I don't know how all the technical stuff about building a website works.

Just let me know what you need from me... ---Cam

DUBB
16:43:36 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
We need to get Sergey to open a paypal account you can link this all in with, so that instead of wiring him Western Union, which requires everyone involved to wait in line at a Western Union somewhere, we can just point and click. Sergey gets paid instantly, and nobody has to wait in line at Western Union anymore. If he doesn't already have one, they can even issue him an ATM card to spend it with. I know I couldn't live without my Visa card. What use would the internet be if you couldn't buy all the cool shit on it with a couple of clicks?

radical
18:08:10 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Paypal! Staring right at us. Great idea Dubb!

camracer
23:38:59 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yep, time to "Push Ahead!" Yes, Sergey?....

motrdyd
23:54:15 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ya I asked him about paypal it doesn't work where he is there's 1 called
www.webmoney.com he said I told him to sign up and give me the source code for a button did u guys read my thread about a international
Merchant account 700.00 app fee and they can say no and keep the paper
I'm trying to do an amazon or eBay type thing but if anyone knows
Anything else to try let me know

And I'd like a list of people who have his gear and a good side shot off
The gun installed I'd use mine but my boards still in the mail

And if you guys don't like something or think something would be cool to add let me know

motrdyd
23:56:38 Tue
Oct 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey dubb
Western union is all online you don't even have to leave your toliet
LOL

motrdyd
00:04:05 Wed
Oct 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just made western union a hyperlink so it takes a person to there now

SONYtec
01:13:16 Wed
Oct 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Looking good motrdyd. :smash:

motrdyd
05:41:06 Wed
Oct 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
i just put a red star at the top but its not finished tell me if it should stay or go i havent merged the background into the star i dont know


thanks guys for the comments remember we all started this
read the very bottom of the page guys

motrdyd
05:49:34 Wed
Oct 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
man i cant wait for my board why if the FN mail so slow lol
seems like everything i buy online takes soo long super xcited thou

camracer
10:45:00 Wed
Oct 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 05:41:06 Wed Oct 5 2011

i just put a red star at the top but its not finished tell me if it should stay or go i havent merged the background into the star i dont know


thanks guys for the comments remember we all started this
read the very bottom of the page guys


Looks cool motrdyd.

Is it me, or did the very last sentence at the bottom of the site get cut off?

drozdandconfused
15:45:34 Wed
Oct 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You guys are impressive, moving fast on this idea!!! Motrdyd, you got a talent putting sites together. What part of CA are you from?

motrdyd
07:24:26 Thu
Oct 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Santa Clarita if u need any site stuff let me know it's just a hobby I just like to help

motrdyd
07:26:17 Thu
Oct 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I moved it up because it depends on your browser check for. Full screen view

camracer
10:11:25 Thu
Oct 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 07:26:17 Thu Oct 6 2011

I moved it up because it depends on your browser check for. Full screen view


Ok thanks.

drozdandconfused
16:34:28 Thu
Oct 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: motrdyd

Santa Clarita if u need any site stuff let me know it's just a hobby I just like to help


Cool! Thanks. I may take you up on that.

Most of the non-warehouse footage in my vids is shot just up the road from you in the Castaic area and Gorman (Hungry Valley).


motrdyd
23:58:42 Thu
Oct 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
nice i live off via princessa to the left up the hill by the new park

motrdyd
00:06:12 Fri
Oct 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
we have these green lasers at work that will pop ballons 150 yards in the sky if u keep it on the ballon long enough all that heat condensed in such a small package u need a 1 phase 220 v laser that will pop some shit

camracer
00:07:43 Fri
Oct 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
YAAAYYY! New friends!! :lol:

Wish I lived closer to ya guy's! ....Hey DnC & motrdyd, can ya come out and play? My mom said it's OK! :tongue:

motrdyd
03:36:42 Sat
Oct 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I got a be home when the street lights come on thou they finally let me off the block LOL

gy954
05:48:36 Sun
Oct 9 2011
About Sergey's Web Site
I appreciate the work that went into the web site. It is a great idea, and a fitting tribute to a nice guy we all respect. But perhaps the hammer and sickle is not appropriate? (...For a number of reasons.) It also occurs to me that Sergey may have reasons for not wanting such a public presence. I hope he makes his wishes known. And please, I hope no one takes my remarks as denigrating.

All the best. / Greg

DUBB
06:24:04 Sun
Oct 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 00:06:12 Fri Oct 7 2011

we have these green lasers at work that will pop ballons 150 yards in the sky if u keep it on the ballon long enough all that heat condensed in such a small package u need a 1 phase 220 v laser that will pop some shit
How about a 80 watt Co2 laser? That'll pop baloons, too, I bet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-80W-co2-laser-tube-water-cool-power-supply-/140535017283?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b88a2f43
I can write my name on the moon (again)

motrdyd
16:07:13 Sun
Oct 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey gy954

I asked him before I put it up but if I causes problems I can remove it and that would still b sergeys call so u should talk to him is there some secret meaning to the sickle or just the red army that's offensive too you
Just interested?

drozdandconfused
16:33:08 Sun
Oct 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: motrdyd

nice i live off via princessa to the left up the hill by the new park


Nice! I've been waiting for it to cool off a bit so I can go up to "A Place to Shoot" to sight in some of my power burners.


radical
19:45:51 Sun
Oct 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

Nice! I've been waiting for it to cool off a bit so I can go up to "A Place to Shoot" to sight in some of my power burners.


I hear you brother. I get to shot only when I go to my girl friend's sister house. I load up the car :smile: Get to shoot my happy guns:smash:

Samtjioe
14:23:43 Mon
Oct 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey, the board has arrived. Try to install it tomorrow. Thanks

Sergey_new_pcb
17:26:20 Wed
Oct 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Ukraine.

SONYtec
19:19:22 Wed
Oct 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:26:20 Wed Oct 12 2011

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Ukraine.



Welcome!!! :smile:


Hey where are they... Oh wait... I get it now. :lol:

I bet they have glow in the dark BB's there, with Chernobyl near by. :rolleyes:

camracer
20:50:56 Wed
Oct 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 19:19:22 Wed Oct 12 2011

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:26:20 Wed Oct 12 2011

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Ukraine.



Welcome!!!

[ Too Many Emoticons In Post; Maximum 3 ]




Hey where are they... Oh wait... I get it now. :lol:

I bet they have glow in the dark BB's there, with Chernobyl near by. :rolleyes:


Heheheh!

Did we get "ALL four corners yet?" Ya know, Connecticut, Russia, Chile, Australia.....:lol:



radical
00:17:05 Thu
Oct 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Heheheh... just drive a dump truck full of bbs and then drive circles around Chernobyl for a while, pack and ship...try to keep the falling hair out of the packages :P

gy954
02:18:08 Thu
Oct 13 2011
Sergeys Board Retrospective
Hi all:

My board (#30) arrived Tuesday. In preparation for installing it, I read all the posts in this thread and its predecessor thread. My goal was to assemble installation instructions from pertinent posts. Then something else happened which I want to share with you.

Reading all the posts from the very start gave me a feeling for the real community aspect to this board. There are some very nice people here. Camracer, I read your very first post--man, you have come a long way. You're a "wise old head" now.

I would like to help with the SergeysBoard website. One idea: while selling the board by itself should be an option, a pre-assembled Drozd is what is going to make the market. The average potential buyer does not want to mess with the internals of his/her brand new gun. So Sergey--or a company yet to be established--will need to get the guns wholesale. If seed money is needed for that (and other matters), I have ideas on how that can be raised.

I would like to continue this conversation. You can get my email if this is too public.

Regards. / Greg

Drozdaholic
04:07:18 Thu
Oct 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DAMN, ....
yall are terrible.......hehehe

radical
04:16:08 Thu
Oct 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I would be interested and ready(as I have time on my hands) to help direct the activities.



camracer
10:28:51 Thu
Oct 13 2011
Re: Sergeys Board Retrospective
Quote: gy954 at 02:18:08 Thu Oct 13 2011

Hi all:
Reading all the posts from the very start gave me a feeling for the real community aspect to this board. There are some very nice people here. Camracer, I read your very first post--man, you have come a long way. You're a "wise old head" now.

Regards. / Greg


Welcome gy954!

Heh, heh! Yep. For sure. And you will too!! Stick with us. Lots of crazy fun here!! ---Cam

SONYtec
17:42:46 Thu
Oct 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Drozdaholic at 04:07:18 Thu Oct 13 2011

DAMN, ....
yall are terrible.......hehehe


I resemble that remark!!! :lol:

drozdblackbeard
21:40:20 Tue
Nov 1 2011
Pretty Installs...
So like any other sensible Drozd Blackbird owner, I want a Sergey board! But you guys all sound like you've got the skills and the tools to do a beautiful job making the holes/buttons, and I don't have any of the tools and my skills are rusty! Does anybody here do the machining/etc. for others? I don't see how the Sergey boards will really take off as a business somebody is doing nice installs for others.

Q

green_dots
02:27:07 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I would add a huge yes to that. I have holes no buttons and gouged out window. GD.

SONYtec
15:57:12 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I don't have one of his boards, so no holes etc. :rolleyes:

netstamp
18:04:05 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Pretty Installs...
Quote: drozdblackbeard at 21:40:20 Tue Nov 1 2011

So like any other sensible Drozd Blackbird owner, I want a Sergey board! But you guys all sound like you've got the skills and the tools to do a beautiful job making the holes/buttons, and I don't have any of the tools and my skills are rusty! Does anybody here do the machining/etc. for others? I don't see how the Sergey boards will really take off as a business somebody is doing nice installs for others.

Q


You can have Ray at Drozdmax install the board for you. .. He does a great job and service/prices cant be beat.

radical
18:46:22 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Im going to go the route Im sure ST is-to get one of his drozds set up for Cams Drozd hc mag and then send it to
DBB for the assembly with Serges board. I got my hand full with Firearms and Airgun repairs.

drozdblackbeard
19:03:40 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Pretty Installs...
Quote: netstamp at 18:04:05 Wed Nov 2 2011

You can have Ray at Drozdmax install the board for you. .. He does a great job and service/prices cant be beat.


Thanks, didn't know he did the Sergey board, too. (Ray installed my mod full auto mod chip when I bought my Drozd from his site.)

Q

SONYtec
19:23:57 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 18:46:22 Wed Nov 2 2011

Im going to go the route Im sure ST is-to get one of his drozds set up for Cams Drozd hc mag and then send it to
DBB for the assembly with Serges board. I got my hand full with Firearms and Airgun repairs.


I really want a JimC hi-cap mag, don't want to draw power to operate a magazine.

DBB??? You mean Dubb?

I love the way Drozdandconfused did his, that is FREAKIN' AWSOME!!! :smash:

I gotta start on my projects to get them done, but too lazy after working all week. :rolleyes:

radical
21:11:49 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DrozdBlackBeard

drozdandconfused
23:38:39 Wed
Nov 2 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: Sonytec

I love the way Drozdandconfused did his, that is FREAKIN' AWSOME!!! :smash:


Thanks SONYtec. I think it can be done without the CNC with a drill press and using the rubber buttons or the plastic ones that come with the board. Like how cam did it with the four holes drilled first to frame the window. The only difficult part is hand cutting and filing the plexiglass to fit snug without scratching it. The rest is pretty basic.


SONYtec
01:54:01 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 21:11:49 Wed Nov 2 2011

DrozdBlackBeard


OK.

SONYtec
01:57:39 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozdandconfused at 23:38:39 Wed Nov 2 2011


Quote: Sonytec

I love the way Drozdandconfused did his, that is FREAKIN' AWSOME!!! :smash:


Thanks SONYtec. I think it can be done without the CNC with a drill press and using the rubber buttons or the plastic ones that come with the board. Like how cam did it with the four holes drilled first to frame the window. The only difficult part is hand cutting and filing the plexiglass to fit snug without scratching it. The rest is pretty basic.


CNC is the way to go, get a few people that need it done, and jsut crank them out.

If Sergey were to get the boards all like a production run, where every board was the same in respect to the location of the parts, that would make it even easier.

I know there are places in the USA that make PCB's, they would be identical.

SONYtec
02:11:46 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Like...

http://www.4pcb.com/

http://www.pcbexpress.com/

http://expresspcb.com/



DUBB
14:14:51 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I don't think they use cnc machines to make pcb boards, it's done by photolithography. I'm almost certain that's how Sergey does it, and he is damn good at it. That does mean that he has a photonegative image drawn out, that can be used to make the actual boards. I read up on how this is done, at some point, for some reason. It was interesting to me. I hae actually been meaning to ask Sergey if he does it by positive, or negative exposure.

SONYtec
15:46:25 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I was refering to the CNC cutting the body for the LED window, and buttons. sorry for the confusion in my posts, was tired.

If Sergey's PCB's were mass produced, instead of him having to draw the pattern on each PCB then there would be consistancy in the boards, the parts would be in the same location. This would allow a CNC to be programmed once, cut every body the same, making it easier to do.

DUBB
16:46:39 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's how photolithography works. It uses a stencil, and you expose it to a light source. It starts the etching with a stencil.

Sergey_new_pcb
17:03:28 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Greetings gentlemen and ladies (if any).

I apologise for being quiet for so long -- I'm working on a new project and I LLLLLLove it. Sorry, I can't tell you now what it is, it's not related to airguns but when it's done I'll post the video that'll explain everything. The job is 95% done.

Right, I still make the boards manually drawing the traces with paint using very thin glass tube. It's a stone age technology but it's suitable as long as the boards remain experimental and not well known among Drozd owners. By the way, the boards consistency is good enough even with that technology. I have two requests for what the boards price would be in case I start mass production, I haven't replied to these messages yet 'cause i was involved in that new job and had no time to contact local or Chinese boards manufacturers.

DrozdBlackBeard, welcome to this nice community. Don't be afraid of it, I've recently received two letters form people who just installed the boards, they were saying it first looked scary but turned out not so difficult. I asked them to share their experience with others.

GD, hold on, we need you here!

Sergey.


radical
18:35:13 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks for the update Serge. Very curious on your new project. Will be watching-Rad

SONYtec
20:10:39 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Always interested in what's new.

Thanks for the info about your board Sergey.

I will send you a PM later, when I am on my other computer.

radical
21:06:51 Thu
Nov 3 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
***Sergey, save aside a board for me. I will be getting ready to send you the funds. ***

drozdblackbeard
22:55:40 Thu
Nov 3 2011
A ridiculous idea for Sergey!
So I'm only sharing this with you guys because nobody else on earth would care, and it could arguably be a pretty cool mod for Sergey... :smile:

I was using a JT 90 g CO2 cartridge and it was running low and firing pressure was becoming erratic and then I see two BBs collide in mid air about 3 meters in front of me, causing one to fly off about 45 degrees to the right the other 45 degrees to the left.

So it got me thinking, with Sergey's board already able to adjust the fps, it wouldn't take much for him to add an "insanity mode" where it wildly changes the fps between each shot causing bbs to collide into each other and fly off in all manner of forward directions starting at all sorts of different distances. Dangerous as hell and a horrible idea, but don't tell me it wouldn't be cool for those rare special occasions when you could shoot it safely. :smile:

DUBB
00:10:50 Fri
Nov 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have a very good old friend who is very old shcool, he is into prototyping electronics and controllers, and has been into that for longer than I have even been alive. He knows all the Chinese, and has skills, I'll ask him about drawing up a negative for photolithography, a master template. I've seen him do that, and once he has one, then he makes a master that replicates that pattern as to make as many as possible on a single standard size sheet, right? They'll preferate them so that you just break the sheets into may individual boards each. I'll see what he thinks and send you a pm, Sergey, my friend does this all the time, and knows the business. He uses a software called Eagle, or something that is the idustry standard, it'w what the Chinese want for their master templates and such.

Sergey_new_pcb
02:58:56 Fri
Nov 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks. I've already prepared that Eagle file, it's ready for mass production. If demand suddenly grows or in case someone starts a big advertisment campaign for these boards so they become well known, I'll HAVE TO start making them in volumes and I'm almost ready for this (but first I'd like to finish my new project, it's very interesting).

SONYtec
04:39:06 Fri
Nov 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
PM sent.

DUBB
12:09:00 Fri
Nov 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
My friend belonged to a "club", for lack of a better word for it, where a group of designers would share an order, combining their different projects into a single, large printed board, to share the cost and such. Is that a co-op? I don't know, but I do know that there are lots of people that are into it. I think you would like my friend Bob, Sergey. You and he are about the only two people that I know that I know are smarter than I am. I feel for you guys, though, I at least have the two of you to ask when I occasionally have a real question, but who can you get advice from? I guess if that should occur, you are just going to have to do your own studies. Beyond your level lies only big companies, and they aren't going to tell you their secrets, now are they?

So why haven't you tried photolithography, it seems to me that it would expediate your process considerably, once you have a stencil made up for your design, wouldn't it? I suppose it is kind of messy, but it is certainly consistant, and the etching is chemical, right? I understand that it takes time to develop it, but it isn't like you have to work at it, or anything, you just expose it, and wait, right? Bob made me read up on the subject, so I wouldn't have to ask so many questions, and the ones I did ask wouldn't be really stupid questions. It's very interesting stuff, to me. I am just amazed by what you do.

SONYtec
13:20:07 Fri
Nov 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dubb the way he is doing it, is easier for the quantity that he sells.

The photo process you are taking about uses different chemicals, and process that is not economical for a one or two, here and there.

It is a great way of doing it though.

I made a bunch of boards when i was in school that way. Had a pattern from a book that I photocopied, made a positive for it. Then you put a film on the board, expose it with the pattern overlay. Then it's off to the chemicals.

I did a double sided PCB, had to make sure the two patterns were placed correctly.

I have to look and see if I still have that hanging around, sure I do.

DUBB
06:17:23 Sat
Nov 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well, Bob had one suggestion, he has used a board maker called Olimex, that are a competitive alternative to the Chinese, as he put it "Euroweenies", so they are certainly closer. Anyway, he has been into designing electronics for a long time, and has probalby used almost all of the available board stampers, so I'll put it out there.
http://www.olimex.com/pcb/


ZqpT
13:06:03 Fri
Nov 11 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
man i want it so bad but i dont know if my mom will let me get it if you dont show me a website


radical
21:57:32 Fri
Nov 11 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
There are you tube Drozd, and bb vids that you can run for here.

Also you cant refect upon here the avg age here(bekind0. Errrrr.... may want to screen whats on the forum :P

camracer
01:28:43 Sat
Nov 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 21:57:32 Fri Nov 11 2011

There are you tube Drozd, and bb vids that you can run for here.

Also you cant refect upon here the avg age here(bekind0. Errrrr.... may want to screen whats on the forum :P


For sure! .......My mom said I couldn't have my bb gun in the house 'cause she was afraid I was gonna' shoot someone's eye out..... :lol:

SONYtec
04:48:52 Sat
Nov 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
:lol:

drozdandconfused
16:25:52 Sat
Nov 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Some videos of Sergey's board and other Drozds from our comrades:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg2NRT5cFE8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bP-GQoxb0Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxJLGeKANzs&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10q5eG53gx0&NR=1

Wait til you see this. This might be compatible with a digital target setup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlBf8wM6qI&NR=1

Sergey, is this what your working on?

and the MP-562K:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZnK2xKJ9C4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaAjRtmuoGc&NR=1

and who said there ain't no cowboys in Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lryOtcL5KME&feature=related

camracer
00:26:00 Sun
Nov 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cool finds DnC!

Did you catch that first video of how he was destroying his barrel? Alignment off. Got the "sparks" coming out the muzzle....

Sergey_new_pcb
02:45:28 Sun
Nov 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
None of the guns below was equipped with Sergey's board. Russian boards owners don't tend to show up, sometimes they send me their photographs but their quality is poor, I don't post them here.

drozdandconfused
16:09:49 Sun
Nov 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Upon further review, you're right, no Sergey boards. How about the lasertag, you involved?

Sergey_new_pcb
21:09:03 Sun
Nov 13 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes, there is a laser in my new project but no, it's not a gun at all :smile: Am I successful in keeping you intrigued? :smile:

DUBB
00:25:12 Mon
Nov 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 21:09:03 Sun Nov 13 2011

Yes, there is a laser in my new project but no, it's not a gun at all :smile: Am I successful in keeping you intrigued? :smile:

Very, I am into lasers. I just love those 1.5 watt, 445nm blue diodes that they harvest out of the pico-DLP projectors. Having a lot of fun with those.


radical
01:58:05 Mon
Nov 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I see the light! Uh..blue light!:lol: <--- See Ive turned blue :P

drozdandconfused
17:13:25 Mon
Nov 14 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey, Crosman/Benjamin is using something like your pulse adjustment tech on their PCP guns. Variable fps and it also monitors tank pressure. Electronic trigger too.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Rogue_ePCP_Air_Rifle/2399

Quote: Sergey

Am I successful in keeping you intrigued? :smile:


Of course!


camracer
00:40:05 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozdandconfused at 17:13:25 Mon Nov 14 2011

Sergey, Crosman/Benjamin is using something like your pulse adjustment tech on their PCP guns. Variable fps and it also monitors tank pressure. Electronic trigger too.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Rogue_ePCP_Air_Rifle/2399

Quote: Sergey

Am I successful in keeping you intrigued? :smile:


Of course!


Holy F'n Schitzen!!!! When did that come out!!! .357 WOW!! Electronics too!!! how'd I miss that?? Gotta go Youtube that right now! ---Cam

camracer
00:45:17 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy7fZtRh84Q

It'll shoot regular grain .38 cal bullets!! Cool!

SONYtec
01:33:42 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ouch, that's gonna hurt. :lol:

radical
04:56:47 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I wonder how many quadrunners you'd need to trade for one of those. Prototype of production?

metallicgraph
20:04:10 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
New to the forum but i did just get Sergey's board #38 installed, and all i can say is wow. Ive been reading through all the posts for the last year seeing all the mods everyone has done and couldnt wait to get back home to start mine. That was the first thing i bought with some of the money i saved up from this last deployment. The install was so much simpler than i thought it was going to be. A little time a dremel, drill, and some files and it was done. Its a whole different gun now. All i can say is thank you Sergey

drozdandconfused
20:35:26 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome the newest member to the club, HIP HIP HOORAY HIP HIP HOORAY. Any photos on the install?

radical
21:06:25 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome to the brother hood. Let your fun and passion for the Drozd/BB grow!

camracer
23:20:32 Tue
Nov 15 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 20:04:10 Tue Nov 15 2011

New to the forum but i did just get Sergey's board #38 installed, and all i can say is wow. Ive been reading through all the posts for the last year seeing all the mods everyone has done and couldnt wait to get back home to start mine. That was the first thing i bought with some of the money i saved up from this last deployment. The install was so much simpler than i thought it was going to be. A little time a dremel, drill, and some files and it was done. Its a whole different gun now. All i can say is thank you Sergey


NICE!!! Wasn't THAT hard to do RIGHT!!

I'd LOVE to install everyone's SB-2 circuit board! But I CAN'T! Please people, I'll help you all. ...Tooo many requests coming in!!! There are GREAT photos of the install here! I don't have the time. Got LOTS of really cool MODS for the Drozd coming real soon!!!

...All I can do for you is "HELP" you. And that "HELP" is gonna be amazing!! ...mark my simple words!!.... ---Cam

metallicgraph
00:00:30 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The only thing I have left it to set in a piece of smoked lexan for the window

Tbkahuna
00:05:21 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome metallicgraph!

Cam, bring it on, brother!!

TBK

camracer
00:46:02 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You people WILL learn to install Sergey's board!! It's NOT that hard to DO!!!

Go back to the beginning of Sergey's threads. LOTS of detailed instructions!!!

...Ask away, answer to be given! ---Cam

metallicgraph
02:04:17 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well now i need some help. Is there anyway to get a new power switch. I just broke the spring steel part on the back of the switch messing with it. And i have no idea where to find a new part.

radical
02:47:43 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Likely to be the one to send.

metallicgraph
03:26:25 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Problem solved for a little paper clip mod now its good as new. Also found the right parts on EAA corp.

drozdandconfused
15:43:28 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
There you go, more creative thinking. EAA seems to be back in business for parts as long as you order the parts online, not over the phone like we used to. Tinted lexan/plexi is the way to go.

metallicgraph
22:53:17 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I know there are plenty of posts out there about solenoid and collet adjustment but i cant seem to find any good links with pictures on it. Does anyone have a link with pictures of how far back or foward they have theirs adjusted. Just looking for a good starting point to put mine. Just dont know if the collet should be bottomed out against the frame or what.

camracer
23:39:00 Wed
Nov 16 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 22:53:17 Wed Nov 16 2011

I know there are plenty of posts out there about solenoid and collet adjustment but i cant seem to find any good links with pictures on it. Does anyone have a link with pictures of how far back or foward they have theirs adjusted. Just looking for a good starting point to put mine. Just dont know if the collet should be bottomed out against the frame or what.


Bottom the collet to the frame. It should be flush with it. As far as adjusting the solenoid, a chronograph will be the tool you need to find that "sweet spot". I personally am Not looking to break the sound barrier, so I don't care as much about an extra "100" psi. GreenDots is the "king" of fps here..... ---Cam

metallicgraph
00:40:44 Thu
Nov 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
thanks alot cam i had the collet way foward. right now im in the process of copying one of yours and dubbs mods, with the solenoid connection between the grip and front housing. Once i saw that post i couldnt wait to get started. I already had gold bullet connectors on the wires. I liked your way much better though.

camracer
00:44:45 Thu
Nov 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 00:40:44 Thu Nov 17 2011

thanks alot cam i had the collet way foward. right now im in the process of copying one of yours and dubbs mods, with the solenoid connection between the grip and front housing. Once i saw that post i couldnt wait to get started. I already had gold bullet connectors on the wires. I liked your way much better though.


LOVE to see your mods when done!! Post some PROUD photos!!! ---Cam

metallicgraph
00:52:37 Thu
Nov 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I still have to find my stock i lost it somewhere in the house when i had my gun all tore apart waiting on Sergeys board. i have all kinds of RC planes and cars around and im going to steal one of those batteries to give my gun a good boost. Im going to put the batteries in the stock because i dont want to have anything more external on the gun than i have to. Once i get these first mods finished ill definately be posting some pics, once i figure out how anyway.

SONYtec
01:38:04 Thu
Nov 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome metallicgraph.

metallicgraph
03:14:44 Fri
Nov 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
just finished the solenoid connection mod between the grip and front housing. The gun is so much easier to pull all the way apart whenever I want to now. No more soldering every time.

metallicgraph
01:11:56 Mon
Nov 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Trijicon ACOG, Troy Industries foward grip, Solenoid conection between frame and front body, and the best mod of them all Sergey's board




camracer
01:11:33 Tue
Nov 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
VERY NICE JOB, metallicgraph!! That Solenoid connection looks familiar! :wink: Excellent!

It looks like you have an extra control button next to where the mag power jack goes...? What's that?? ---Cam

metallicgraph
01:24:34 Tue
Nov 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
yeh Cam that is a sling swivel stud i put on it a long time ago. Luckily its out of the way just real close. It doesnt interfere with the button or vice versa. Just got lucky on that. ill be ordering a SMG barrel soon and a MT valve

camracer
01:34:19 Tue
Nov 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 01:24:34 Tue Nov 22 2011

yeh Cam that is a sling swivel stud i put on it a long time ago. Luckily its out of the way just real close. It doesnt interfere with the button or vice versa. Just got lucky on that. ill be ordering a SMG barrel soon and a MT valve


WHEW! You bet! very close to the "electrics"! :ohwell:

metallicgraph
02:28:38 Tue
Nov 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
got that right was debating taking it out and filling the hole with epoxy, but when its all together the board is solid and it has more room than it looks between them inside. Definately not alot but more than it looks.

radical
20:15:12 Tue
Nov 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice part coupling power setup!Mine stil have the coupled wires. Little bit of a bitch but not that I open that often anymore.

SONYtec
17:19:53 Wed
Nov 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Make sure those contacts can't short out, if they do the soliniod won't fire, and you can damage the transistor that fires it.

metallicgraph
20:28:36 Wed
Nov 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeh I know the wires won't be a problem but I do want to put some kind of plastic piece between the springs so there is no chance of a short.

SONYtec
20:30:23 Wed
Nov 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 20:28:36 Wed Nov 23 2011

Yeh I know the wires won't be a problem but I do want to put some kind of plastic piece between the springs so there is no chance of a short.


That's what I was refering to. If one of those contacts becomes dislodged, not good.

radical
18:15:07 Mon
Nov 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 20:28:36 Wed Nov 23 2011

Yeh I know the wires won't be a problem but I do want to put some kind of plastic piece between the springs so there is no chance of a short.


Dont want to get the infamous "smoke puff" ever when working on the board. Still with sergeys youd just make a
fantastic upgrade!

TheWolf
19:09:20 Mon
Nov 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I would love to order one but his website went poof and he doesn't respond to me.. lol.

Ah, can't do anything about it..

radical
21:39:55 Mon
Nov 28 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Keep trying...

pattyb
02:04:39 Sun
Dec 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I am , trying to get one also, so far no luck or contact, is ther a new web site address?

TheWolf
03:15:53 Sun
Dec 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
He might be busy alot, I got an answer some days ago. :lol:

Did you mail him to his address?

Just patience, he has other things to do, too, as we all do.

pattyb
03:20:20 Sun
Dec 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yep the one listed on here, is that the right one, the web site link in this forum to sergey's board dosent work

SONYtec
04:35:56 Sun
Dec 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Send him a PM.

TheWolf
04:55:31 Sun
Dec 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes, either PM or the mail address in his profile.

Both should work. :lol:

Like I said, he might be busy. :wink:

DUBB
10:11:15 Sun
Dec 4 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 00:52:37 Thu Nov 17 2011

I still have to find my stock i lost it somewhere in the house when i had my gun all tore apart waiting on Sergeys board. i have all kinds of RC planes and cars around and im going to steal one of those batteries to give my gun a good boost. Im going to put the batteries in the stock because i dont want to have anything more external on the gun than i have to. Once i get these first mods finished ill definately be posting some pics, once i figure out how anyway.

That is what I did, to. I have the stock filled up with 18650 lithium cells, wired up 5 in series, for a peak voltage of about 21v. I also made contacts similar to how you did, 2 sets, one for the solenoid wires, and another for the battery wires. I love being able to take mine apart in 60 seconds without envoking my soldering iron. I think i might have been the first to try that, actually. Cam did his right after, about the same way you did. I didn't use springs, rather I have lots of sheet copper, I cut bits of that, and ca glued them flush to the plastic. The way I did it, there is no chance of shorting out. One of the cool attributes is that taking it down disconnects the batteries, such that there is no danger of shorting anything when you get in there, the act of seperating the halves makes sure that there is nothing live in the reciever by the time you get in there.

metallicgraph
23:38:52 Mon
Dec 5 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The batteries in the stock is what i am about to start work on. I also got a self powered LED voltage meter im going to set in flush with the stock to keep a good eye on the current voltage. It can read anywhere from 3v to 30v so it should work great.



camracer
00:36:38 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 23:38:52 Mon Dec 5 2011

The batteries in the stock is what i am about to start work on. I also got a self powered LED voltage meter im going to set in flush with the stock to keep a good eye on the current voltage. It can read anywhere from 3v to 30v so it should work great.


Cool!!! I could use one of those! ---Cam

metallicgraph
01:08:11 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 00:36:38 Tue Dec 6 2011

Quote: metallicgraph at 23:38:52 Mon Dec 5 2011

The batteries in the stock is what i am about to start work on. I also got a self powered LED voltage meter im going to set in flush with the stock to keep a good eye on the current voltage. It can read anywhere from 3v to 30v so it should work great.


Cool!!! I could use one of those! ---Cam


They are really cheap Cam. I did have to order it from china but it didnt take to long to come in. They also have them in red in case you want to go that way. here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-DC-3-2-30V-Digital-Blue-Voltage-Panel-Meter-Voltmeter-Selfpower-24x-21X11mm-/270828335626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0ea0720a


metallicgraph
02:22:29 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
by the way they are the same size LED numbers as Sergey's board

DUBB
03:04:45 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I got something like that from HK, except mine connects to the balance plug, wired to each cell in the series. It cycles, flashing the voltage of each cell, one at a time, then it shows the total voltage, and starts over again. Very cool, for 2 bucks.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__6589__Battery_Monitor_2_6S.html
If you use 18650 cells like I did, you'll have to shoot for months to really drain them down. Monitoring them is a moot point, really.

Tbkahuna
04:02:41 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm going to put one on my electric mag so I will know the voltage at the magazine motor.

I need to put a tiny tachometer and display on there, too!! Need to know the auger rpm for testing.

TBK

camracer
18:50:48 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 01:08:11 Tue Dec 6 2011



They are really cheap Cam. I did have to order it from china but it didnt take to long to come in. They also have them in red in case you want to go that way. here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-DC-3-2-30V-Digital-Blue-Voltage-Panel-Meter-Voltmeter-Selfpower-24x-21X11mm-/270828335626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0ea0720a


Thanks! I'm sold. Gonna get some. ---Cam

camracer
18:51:52 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 03:04:45 Tue Dec 6 2011

I got something like that from HK, except mine connects to the balance plug, wired to each cell in the series. It cycles, flashing the voltage of each cell, one at a time, then it shows the total voltage, and starts over again. Very cool, for 2 bucks.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__6589__Battery_Monitor_2_6S.html
If you use 18650 cells like I did, you'll have to shoot for months to really drain them down. Monitoring them is a moot point, really.


That is cool DUBB. Gonna get one of those too!

camracer
18:58:35 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 04:02:41 Tue Dec 6 2011

I'm going to put one on my electric mag so I will know the voltage at the magazine motor.

I need to put a tiny tachometer and display on there, too!! Need to know the auger rpm for testing.

TBK


Man we are gonna go sooo high tech soon!! I'll be adding the adjustable speed controller DUBB found to my prototype mag soon also! ....Coool!

Oh, also, I've started my first project: Modding a DeWalt drill battery pack to use the LiPo packs DUBB steered me towards. 3.3x the capacity at 8000 mAh!!! I'll have the low voltage warning beeper on it also! ...Post before the end of the week. ---Cam

Tbkahuna
22:52:54 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cool find, DUBB. Gotta get one of those, too!

Can't wait to see Cam's new stuff!

TBK


camracer
23:59:49 Tue
Dec 6 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 22:52:54 Tue Dec 6 2011

Cool find, DUBB. Gotta get one of those, too!

Can't wait to see Cam's new stuff!

TBK


Ooohhh! you just wait 'n see! :tongue: ---Cam

radical
00:52:32 Wed
Dec 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Picken my nose in Kansas waiting ...

Cjm22380
23:42:18 Wed
Dec 7 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey said my board #42 is done and shipping tomorrow can't wait.

camracer
00:31:34 Thu
Dec 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Cjm22380 at 23:42:18 Wed Dec 7 2011

Sergey said my board #42 is done and shipping tomorrow can't wait.


Wow! #42!!!! ...COOL!!!

Cjm22380
00:57:36 Thu
Dec 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah it might be the first in missouri

SONYtec
03:31:35 Thu
Dec 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 00:52:32 Wed Dec 7 2011

Picken my nose in Kansas waiting ...


:ohwell:

radical
06:36:54 Thu
Dec 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 03:31:35 Thu Dec 8 2011

Quote: radical at 00:52:32 Wed Dec 7 2011

Picken my nose in Kansas waiting ...


:ohwell:


Yuz kidn?? Wus else der be doin in Kansas? Yall be good nowinz




Sergey_new_pcb
13:43:17 Thu
Dec 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m




red0nd0
14:54:39 Thu
Dec 8 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
wow wow wee wah i like it very much!

SONYtec
00:26:49 Fri
Dec 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice Photo's.

radical
01:27:25 Fri
Dec 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Really like the touch of blue from the power led. All you need is a blue and green laser any it would be a Christmas spirit gun :wink:

camracer
23:21:45 Fri
Dec 9 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 01:27:25 Fri Dec 9 2011

Really like the touch of blue from the power led. All you need is a blue and green laser any it would be a Christmas spirit gun :wink:


Love to shoot some glass ornaments off the "tree" from 20 yards! :lol: Start collecting those "discounted" ornaments after the holidays folks!! :rotflmao:

SONYtec
01:42:42 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Something to do, stick the tree outside, after Christmas, and have at it. :lol:

Tbkahuna
01:44:44 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I had a whole collection of ornaments to shoot. I was cleaning out the garage and knocked the box off a stack of other boxes and onto the floor. It was a mess of colored glass!! I almost grabbed an airgun to finish off the few pieces that survived. I do still have my old blackberry and phone collection around somewhere, so all is not lost. I just need to get a video camera.

TBK

SONYtec
01:46:04 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 01:44:44 Sat Dec 10 2011

I just need to get a video camera.

TBK


Christmas is coming.

Tbkahuna
01:52:03 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have an even bigger reason to get one...

TBK

radical
03:37:48 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:21:45 Fri Dec 9 2011

Quote: radical at 01:27:25 Fri Dec 9 2011

Really like the touch of blue from the power led. All you need is a blue and green laser any it would be a Christmas spirit gun :wink:


Love to shoot some glass ornaments off the "tree" from 20 yards! :lol: Start collecting those "discounted" ornaments after the holidays folks!! :rotflmao:


Love filling up the old glass balls with water. Wound make a great superfast camcorder for slo mo!

AUTO_XX
07:39:01 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I joined the site a long time ago but then my funds ran dry last spring and when I finally got paid (I get one paycheck a year) I couldn't seem to find a blackbird.
Now that I FINALLY have one ordered should I go ahead and contact Sergei or should I avoid bothering him until I get to know the blackbird a bit.
I am a hobby machinist, vertical mill, 4' lathe, large mig welder, plasma cutter, etc. How hard is it to modify this gun?
I'm under the impression that if I can throw the frame in a vise, it should be pretty easy to get the layout bang-on but I could be wrong.
Thanks in advance for the info guys.

-Auto

DUBB
11:31:13 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: AUTO_XX at 07:39:01 Sat Dec 10 2011

I joined the site a long time ago but then my funds ran dry last spring and when I finally got paid (I get one paycheck a year) I couldn't seem to find a blackbird.
Now that I FINALLY have one ordered should I go ahead and contact Sergei or should I avoid bothering him until I get to know the blackbird a bit.
I am a hobby machinist, vertical mill, 4' lathe, large mig welder, plasma cutter, etc. How hard is it to modify this gun?
I'm under the impression that if I can throw the frame in a vise, it should be pretty easy to get the layout bang-on but I could be wrong.
Thanks in advance for the info guys.

-Auto

One paycheck per year? Sounds a lot like growing pot, if you asked me. Except factor in that when you finally harvest, everyone else does, too, and the market gets saturated and drives down your hard earned wage. And it is hard work, too.

camracer
13:12:05 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: AUTO_XX at 07:39:01 Sat Dec 10 2011

I joined the site a long time ago but then my funds ran dry last spring and when I finally got paid (I get one paycheck a year) I couldn't seem to find a blackbird.
Now that I FINALLY have one ordered should I go ahead and contact Sergei or should I avoid bothering him until I get to know the blackbird a bit.
I am a hobby machinist, vertical mill, 4' lathe, large mig welder, plasma cutter, etc. How hard is it to modify this gun?
I'm under the impression that if I can throw the frame in a vise, it should be pretty easy to get the layout bang-on but I could be wrong.
Thanks in advance for the info guys.

-Auto


Hello AUTO_XX. Go ahead and order Sergey's circuit board. You'll end up swapping the original out soon after you get your gun anyway!!

Drozdandconfused used a mill to cut out the holes for the buttons and LED counter. It came out perfect. Give it a go, and post some photos on this thread when you do! ---Cam

SONYtec
15:06:59 Sat
Dec 10 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
"Hobby machinist" with a 4 foot lathe. :rolleyes:


:lol:

AUTO_XX
08:58:43 Sun
Dec 11 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well, I had a Smithy midas 1220 something, a combo lathe/mill but it was pretty weak...
Poor accuracy, pain in the butt to change feed speeds, gearing etc.
I decided the market was too volatile for MY money so decent tools are best investment in my book.
I am a carpenter (usually log homes) so I only get paid when the house is finished.
Subtrades are getting to be a PITA though so I think standard framing might be for me, it's SO simple...
I'll be sure to post some pics, I have read just about every page of the drozd mods that I can find.
I'm learning how to cast aluminum right now (lost foam), just spent the last couple of days refining old engine blocks into ingots so there are other things on my plate as well.
(I need to figure out how to deal with porosity)
The blackbird in the mail is putting pressure on my to do list though :lol:
I have been putting a lot of effort into getting every tool that I need set up (like milling a 4-jaw chuck to fit a 3 bolt rotary table) but I need more tax deductible tools to get down to the next tax bracket before the 1st...
I'm thinking a 3 axis dro for the mill and a 2 for the lathe might be good.
I figured with all of the "thinkers" on this forum you would be loaded right up on tools like this ^_^
I'll go ahead and send Sergey (sorry I spelled it wrong before man...), I figured he had enough on his plate but it sounds like he is dealing with it well.
Thanks for the welcome fellas, glad to be back :wink:
-Auto

DUBB
11:35:08 Sun
Dec 11 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well if you need to invest in tools deeper, anyway, you should seriously consider converting all your cordless power tools over to r/c lipos, like Camracer is doing, now. It's well worth doing, you can't really appreciate how bad nickel based rechargable batteries suck ass, or how much time (which is money) you are wasting on them, until you start using lithium batteries. If you use those tools to make a living like you do, you won't have any regrets, save for the "why didn't I do this sooner?" one. You can relegate charging your batteries to sunday afternoon, at your leisure, and never have to bother with bringing your stupid pack charger to, and finding some way to set it up on your jobsite, ever again. And you will deffinately appreciate how much lighter the tools are, with those, too. not to mention how much stronger they run. My "18v" (well, the pack says 21 point something or other) runs circles around the 24v ones that all the real carpenters say that they have to have.

AUTO_XX
04:17:42 Mon
Dec 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The only problem I have with that is if your batteries are medium charged or lower, freezing won't hurt them much but if they are fully charged...
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I have heard that it breaks up the matrix, after the internal structure is broken up it won't hold nearly as much charge.
I got a lithium Mikita (only 3Ah), I have to be pretty careful not to forget it out in the shop.

gesja
06:29:16 Mon
Dec 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Radical, really like that crazy cat of yours....its got style !

radical
07:00:59 Mon
Dec 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: gesja at 06:29:16 Mon Dec 12 2011

Radical, really like that crazy cat of yours....its got style !


He's exactly like mine. I borrowed the giff or avatar somewhere. Lol, looks like its walking upwrite bipedal for
a few steps!

cpu77
12:13:30 Mon
Dec 12 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m


Email Sent!


Thanks
Ralph

Sergey_new_pcb
18:30:38 Sat
Dec 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
News from Vladimir living in Minnessota.

He's shooting 1150 FPS at 2000 PSI. He's not a member of this board, for more details call him directly: 612-363-53-56.



AUTO_XX
18:34:00 Sat
Dec 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Holy poop!
How much can the valve take?
Actually, does anyone know what the solenoid draws? I'd like to change the wires to good quality silicone.
Had the 'bird apart last night, pretty simple... All ready for santa's arrival with the pretty new board ^_^

Sergey_new_pcb
18:42:31 Sat
Dec 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The peak current in the coil is 8-20 Amps so the losses in the 17AWG wires are negligible, noo need for "cool" silicon wires.

AUTO_XX
19:22:38 Sat
Dec 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks for the info Sergey, it was more because the silicone wire is more flexible and would fit between the solenoid and housing better.
I'm going to make a set of weaver rails today, need a laser mount and it would be obstructing the RD scope a bit on top.


drozdandconfused
19:44:37 Sat
Dec 17 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: Sergey

News from Vladimir living in Minnessota.

He's shooting 1150 FPS at 2000 PSI. He's not a member of this board, for more details call him directly:


Eyes bugging out Emoticon!! WOW. I would guess 18+ voltage. Like to see a video of that.

camracer
00:02:16 Sun
Dec 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozdandconfused at 19:44:37 Sat Dec 17 2011


Quote: Sergey

News from Vladimir living in Minnessota.

He's shooting 1150 FPS at 2000 PSI. He's not a member of this board, for more details call him directly:


Eyes bugging out Emoticon!! WOW. I would guess 18+ voltage. Like to see a video of that.


!!!!

It's gotta be LOUD! ...Don't want that pressure near my head...

drozdandconfused
18:08:11 Sun
Dec 18 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: cam

Don't want that pressure near my head...


Me either. I did try 2000 psi once, but it was before I had Sergey's board and I could not run enough voltage to get the valve fully open :sad:



lucky2011
20:18:19 Tue
Dec 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
i just recieve sergey board # 3, looks awesome.i can't wait to install it.

camracer
23:05:33 Tue
Dec 20 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: lucky2011 at 20:18:19 Tue Dec 20 2011

i just recieve sergey board # 3, looks awesome.i can't wait to install it.


Let me know If you need help Mike!! ---Cam

lucky2011
01:30:50 Wed
Dec 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
you know i will be bordering you .

thanks Cam.

camracer
18:30:30 Wed
Dec 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: lucky2011 at 01:30:50 Wed Dec 21 2011

you know i will be bordering you .

thanks Cam.


No problem, glad to help you my friend! ---Cam

p.s. that's "bothering" not "bordering"... :wink:

SONYtec
19:53:52 Wed
Dec 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cam, maybe he's moving next door. :lol:

Quote: camracer at 18:30:30 Wed Dec 21 2011

Quote: lucky2011 at 01:30:50 Wed Dec 21 2011

you know i will be bordering you .

thanks Cam.


No problem, glad to help you my friend! ---Cam

p.s. that's "bothering" not "bordering"... :wink:


radical
21:45:54 Wed
Dec 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey Cam, whats the property tax for Conn on a tree house. Bet ist hi ;?)

camracer
22:34:50 Wed
Dec 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 19:53:52 Wed Dec 21 2011

Cam, maybe he's moving next door. :lol:

Quote: camracer at 18:30:30 Wed Dec 21 2011

Quote: lucky2011 at 01:30:50 Wed Dec 21 2011

you know i will be bordering you .

thanks Cam.


No problem, glad to help you my friend! ---Cam

p.s. that's &quot;bothering&quot; not &quot;bordering&quot;... :wink:


....COOL!!! ...You TO SONY???! :lol:

camracer
22:37:48 Wed
Dec 21 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 21:45:54 Wed Dec 21 2011

Hey Cam, whats the property tax for Conn on a tree house. Bet ist hi ;?)


I defied the town ....and just built it! "America Kicks AZZZZZ!!!" ---Cam :rotflmao:

SONYtec
04:37:32 Thu
Dec 22 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 22:34:50 Wed Dec 21 2011


....COOL!!! ...You TO SONY???! :lol:


Well I'm in a bordering state, but not too close. :lol:

lucky2011
03:29:10 Fri
Dec 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
i need a tamplate for the Sergey board guys.

camracer
16:11:50 Fri
Dec 23 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: lucky2011 at 03:29:10 Fri Dec 23 2011

i need a tamplate for the Sergey board guys.


No template available Mike. You just need to do some simple, but careful measuring. Also drill some tiny pilot holes that you could stick a small wire through to see how close to proper position you are before making holes bigger. That is a big help.

See the "calling Drozdandconfused" thread you just started.... ---Cam

DUBB
03:31:27 Sun
Dec 25 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I eyeballed the yellow one from mine, you should be able to do the same from a picture of both of them. Just look at where the holes are relative to the other promanent features on the reciever. All your holes will be in the same exact places.


SONYtec
02:36:45 Thu
Dec 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Don't forget that it depends what you use for buttons as well.

It would be nice to have a template for the center of the actual switch to be a guide.

Tbkahuna
19:12:20 Thu
Dec 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I started measuring and will document the coordinates for everything. I have two guns to do so I am going to measure it all up so I don't have to do it again. I will do a CNC program for it and it should be easy to do a template, too. I may go ahead and make a fixture to be able to do this without having to start from scratch each time.

TBK

radical
21:14:10 Thu
Dec 29 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
An etching pen to mark radii then a compass. Or a transferable from some bright source.

DUBB
08:01:48 Sat
Dec 31 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I took another, somewhat better picture of the two I have in front of me, that I did. It's not a pattern, exactly, but between the two you can see where the holes all need to be in relation to the other features on the reciever: those grooves in the foregrip are sure useful, they graduate the thing like lines on a ruler. I dunno, I did the second one just by looking at mine, and it turned out perfect. Looking at the two together, a third would be so easy, now.


camracer
15:43:32 Sat
Dec 31 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Tbkahuna at 19:12:20 Thu Dec 29 2011

I started measuring and will document the coordinates for everything. I have two guns to do so I am going to measure it all up so I don't have to do it again. I will do a CNC program for it and it should be easy to do a template, too. I may go ahead and make a fixture to be able to do this without having to start from scratch each time.

TBK


Nice TBK. A template would be awesome!

radical
23:31:14 Sat
Dec 31 2011
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Put it on the web so it can be downloaded in proper print out dimensions. That would be of great help.

SONYtec
13:55:59 Wed
Jan 4 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 23:31:14 Sat Dec 31 2011

Put it on the web so it can be downloaded in proper print out dimensions. That would be of great help.


That would be easy.

Sergey_new_pcb
12:48:37 Thu
Jan 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The board #50 is on the way to USA.

Any templates mentioned earlier are not really necessary right now. First, the boards are still made manually so their dimensions can slightly vary. Second, it's not a big deal to install it even without any template. Many people have done it sucessfully.

When I order a batch of boards manufactured by local factory they all will be of the same size so we'll return to this idea later.

camracer
16:05:29 Thu
Jan 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice Sergey! You have reached your first benchmark. 50 boards!

Thanks about the variances in dimensions! We'll just wait for now on the template! ---Cam

Tbkahuna
17:31:26 Thu
Jan 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I checked both of my boards and they were very close to the same dimensions. I wondered about that.

SONYtec
18:56:30 Thu
Jan 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
50!!! Seems like yesterday you came out with those boards.

Your gaining popularity, and more business.

radical
00:44:33 Fri
Jan 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good to hear the progress, Sergey!

Sergey_new_pcb
01:29:06 Fri
Jan 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thank you all for your warm words said earlier.

Quote:

Seems like yesterday you came out with those boards.


It wasn't easy. Ask GD (what a great person). He knows the story from the beginning. Even though I can speak English, my first attempts of communication with people in the US and Canada were not successful at all. He helped me to learn more about western-minded people.

camracer
15:17:20 Fri
Jan 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 01:29:06 Fri Jan 6 2012

Thank you all for your warm words said earlier.

Quote:

Seems like yesterday you came out with those boards.


It wasn't easy. Ask GD (what a great person). He knows the story from the beginning. Even though I can speak English, my first attempts of communication with people in the US and Canada were not successful at all. He helped me to learn more about western-minded people.


This forum sure makes the world seem a little smaller, for sure! ---Cam

SONYtec
15:38:41 Fri
Jan 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The rest of the world is an inter-continental ballistic missle away. :lol:

radical
23:19:13 Fri
Jan 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This board sure has moved fast. That's what happens when you have so many good member. Watch out though. Too many geniuses in one place can be a powder keg! Lol!

camracer
00:20:08 Sat
Jan 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 23:19:13 Fri Jan 6 2012

This board sure has moved fast. That's what happens when you have so many good member. Watch out though. Too many geniuses in one place can be a powder keg! Lol!


Yer talkin' bout' ME, Right Rad!!!! HEEEE, HEE!! :lol:

....I am so smart, I am so smart, I am so smart, ...S..M..R..T! ....uh, I mean s...m...A...r...t!! :rotflmao:

radical
01:23:15 Sat
Jan 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Right on Cam...yep this is you, and peak on the borederland genius status!

Sergey_new_pcb
04:02:48 Sat
Jan 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
As for me, gentlemen, I'm not a genius at all. I'm just a product of the Soviet educational system. It could be acessible to everyone for free before Yeltsin's and later governments destroyed it. No need to say I took all I could get from it. I mentioned this in my previous thread.

camracer
15:01:35 Sat
Jan 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
WOW! The Soviet education system produced geniuses that don't know they're geniuses!!! ....so THAT's why Yeltsin destroyed it!!! :rotflmao:

SONYtec
05:49:08 Sun
Jan 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 15:01:35 Sat Jan 7 2012

WOW! The Soviet education system produced geniuses that don't know they're geniuses!!! ....so THAT's why Yeltsin destroyed it!!! :rotflmao:


I'm confused. :rolleyes:

Sergey_new_pcb
06:50:18 Sun
Jan 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Gentlemen, I'm absolutely serious and I don't think any kidding is acceptable here.

Post-Soviet territories are in deep and fatal crisis now. It's worse than an earthquake or flooding - the whole civilisation is deadly ill. If you have any doubts, I'll be glad to invite any one of you to Russia for you to see it with your own eyes -- modern Russians are wild, careless, selfish, greedy and irresposnible troglodytes. Including girls. Including state officials. Come and take a look. Progress stopped here two decades ago and now Russia's drifting back to Dark Ages.

I feel like one of Titanic's passengers who knows about the hole below the water line and keeps telling everybody to get prepared for the evacuation and further fight for your life. Other passengers demonstrate two types of reaction: the majority is still careless and they only recommend me to calm down, relax and keep enjoying the trip. Some tell me to shut up because they know about the hole too but are hoping to steal something when panic begins.

AUTO_XX
06:56:18 Sun
Jan 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Willing to jump ship and share your knowledge with north america?
I'm a fan of alberta canada but there are some NICE places just about everywhere over here.

camracer
15:15:08 Mon
Jan 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 06:50:18 Sun Jan 8 2012

Gentlemen, I'm absolutely serious and I don't think any kidding is acceptable here.

Post-Soviet territories are in deep and fatal crisis now. It's worse than an earthquake or flooding - the whole civilisation is deadly ill. If you have any doubts, I'll be glad to invite any one of you to Russia for you to see it with your own eyes -- modern Russians are wild, careless, selfish, greedy and irresposnible troglodytes. Including girls. Including state officials. Come and take a look. Progress stopped here two decades ago and now Russia's drifting back to Dark Ages.

I feel like one of Titanic's passengers who knows about the hole below the water line and keeps telling everybody to get prepared for the evacuation and further fight for your life. Other passengers demonstrate two types of reaction: the majority is still careless and they only recommend me to calm down, relax and keep enjoying the trip. Some tell me to shut up because they know about the hole too but are hoping to steal something when panic begins.


A great analogy Sergey!

Sorry to make a bad joke. I know you have it bad there. You know I would help you out the best that I can, i.e. help spread the word about your circuit boards. You know I'll always give you free advertising in my videos!! :tongue:

Hang in there my friend! Do what you have to, and no less!! :smash: ---Cam

radical
23:54:07 Mon
Jan 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Doe anybody there, Serge, have an idea as to what will happen in the new Russia?

camracer
00:10:34 Tue
Jan 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 23:54:07 Mon Jan 9 2012

Doe anybody there, Serge, have an idea as to what will happen in the new Russia?


Yeah, Sergey does!.......

radical
04:37:21 Tue
Jan 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very curious.

SONYtec
04:42:24 Tue
Jan 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
They will end up like us.

radical
05:20:22 Tue
Jan 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
On the back burner like me!? Eh ST?

SONYtec
02:03:12 Thu
Jan 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dunno, just a guess.

radical
07:18:49 Thu
Jan 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Only if w let it!

metallicgraph
01:05:15 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
ok im sure this question has been asked a million times on here but i cant seem to find an answer. What is the stock thread pitch on the muzzle of the blackbird barrel. any help would be great

AUTO_XX
02:14:50 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
My board showed up today, the housing is on the milling machine right now but it's frikken COLD out there!
Just a thought here, if you are only using hand tools and don't have any precise measuring gear, drill your holes very tiny to start.
If you are off by a bit, you will be able to correct your mistake when you drill the final size.
Also, how are those three little plastic "buttons" that come in a separate bag with the board supposed to work?
I'm just going to spin some out of delrin bar stock but I was curious how they could be utilized.

SONYtec
03:03:29 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Take pictures auto.

Get a heater in there!!!

AUTO_XX
03:07:22 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have a diesel heater but the big equipment "sweats" pretty badly if I run it when it is this cold.
I'll grab some pics when I go back out, it isn't CnC by the way, low tech only :wink:
Very impressive skills from Sergey, if are on the fence about getting this board, it is already worth it and I haven't even used it in the gun ^_^

SONYtec
03:11:44 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yup moisture condenses on the equipment.

:rolleyes:




Sergey_new_pcb
05:32:08 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m




camracer
15:02:15 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: AUTO_XX at 02:14:50 Fri Jan 13 2012


Just a thought here, if you are only using hand tools and don't have any precise measuring gear, drill your holes very tiny to start.
If you are off by a bit, you will be able to correct your mistake when you drill the final size.


That is the way I did mine also. Start with drilling a pin hole and stick a pin through to see if it lines up. You can't go wrong.

Quote: AUTO_XX

Also, how are those three little plastic "buttons" that come in a separate bag with the board supposed to work?
I'm just going to spin some out of delrin bar stock but I was curious how they could be utilized.


Sergey just posted...


camracer
15:08:51 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: metallicgraph at 01:05:15 Fri Jan 13 2012

ok im sure this question has been asked a million times on here but i cant seem to find an answer. What is the stock thread pitch on the muzzle of the blackbird barrel. any help would be great


Sorry, I meant to get back to you. I forgot. ...oops

Metric= 1.25mm
SAE= 20 tpi

---Cam

SONYtec
16:56:34 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Metric and SAE???

camracer
23:37:55 Fri
Jan 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: SONYtec at 16:56:34 Fri Jan 13 2012

Metric and SAE???


Yep.

radical
00:21:27 Sat
Jan 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 15:08:51 Fri Jan 13 2012

Quote: metallicgraph at 01:05:15 Fri Jan 13 2012

ok im sure this question has been asked a million times on here but i cant seem to find an answer. What is the stock thread pitch on the muzzle of the blackbird barrel. any help would be great


Sorry, I meant to get back to you. I forgot. ...oops

Metric= 1.25mm
SAE= 20 tpi

---Cam


Right. And anytime one asks questions even with american parts, they are often metric. So take nore.

metallicgraph
02:30:25 Sat
Jan 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
thanks Cam the only thing i could find was last night said it was 12mm x 1mm and i wasnt sure if that was right or not after looking forever i was about to give up.

SONYtec
02:52:07 Sat
Jan 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Newer stuff is supposed to be metric. We were supposed to switch to the metric system. Forget the date is was supposed to be by.

radical
04:51:20 Sat
Jan 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
100% correct ST. Just think our legislature believes we are all stupid. Ive quoted metric data on jobs and people just stare at me! So people wheres your sign?

AUTO_XX
09:00:15 Mon
Jan 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Got the board in a couple days ago but I still haven't spun the buttons or gotten any plexiglass to plug the window hole.
I have a buddy with a glass shop near here so there should be a piece of tinted around with my name on it.
I just got a couple of 20oz CO2 bottles today, it's nice to get away from the 90 gram disposables... I only went through one so far, but that was enough to tell it was just silly.
Mods so far:
Tactical barrel
Upgraded mag motor (Thanks to Cam for finding that one)
Bulk air adapter
Sergey Board
Bullet connectors to the solenoid
Red dot scope

Soon to be changed:
Latch plate for the mag
160mW red laser mounted
Mod the stock to fit the 20oz bottles and hold 5X18650s or a lipo pack
Get rid of the mag wire
BB alignment in the mag head
There are a few other little things but those are the main ones. I have only put about 200 shots through this thing but I'm hooked :wink:

I'm also thinking about facing off the numbers for the old switches and finding a way to fill the switch holes with a good epoxy but that will be down the road apiece.

camracer
14:19:25 Mon
Jan 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Heh, heh! You've caught the "Drozd Bug" AUTO!! Tough to get a cure for it!!! You's gonna' be havin' fun now! :tongue:


Quote: AUTO_XX

Upgraded mag motor (Thanks to Cam for finding that one)


To give credit where due, Actually Tbkahuna found it first when we were working on our motorized prototype mag projects... ---Cam


SONYtec
16:47:03 Mon
Jan 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's a sickness.

cpu77
18:06:46 Mon
Jan 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I so want my board should be here any day! Let the BBS FLY!

camracer
19:20:59 Mon
Jan 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Get ready for some REAL FUN!!!

AUTO_XX
19:25:14 Mon
Jan 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Instead of just butting the motor head up against the hangar, I chose to drill it big enough for the motor to sit flush.
Better support and the little screws I got out of an old hard drive were long enough.



...Ok, how the holy hell do I get these damn pics to show?
I have done it before o_O
*edit #20 something...*
Finally! I screwed up on one of my measurements for the window, I moved the top of cut down so the shoulder was still at full depth but forgot to take an equal amount off of the bottom measurement :sad:
It will look all right with the smoked plexi in there but I would prefer perfect.

camracer
01:50:22 Tue
Jan 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Looks good enough AUTO!!

Like you said, once you get the plexi in place, all's good! No one will know but you! ...but you's all that matters, huh! :lol:

How'd the button holes match up?? Looks dead straight! ---Cam

P.S. Are you using Photobucket to upload your photos? It's pretty easy to learn. I can guide you through it.

AUTO_XX
01:57:16 Tue
Jan 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah, I measured (and laid out) everything with a decent set of digital calipers.
It was so cold out that I killed the batteries in bth of them and had to fall back to my old dial calipers o_O
The lathe doesn't like temps this cold either, if I am trying to spin anything over 800 rpm, it is too stiff and won't get up to speed until it warms a bit.
Usually have to run it around 200 for 10 mins XD
Got the pics now, thanks though!
You just keep making sexy drozd upgrades.

radical
02:29:54 Tue
Jan 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You didnt lick the calipers!? Did you?

SONYtec
05:00:56 Tue
Jan 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Great photo's AUTO!!!

camracer
14:06:38 Tue
Jan 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 02:29:54 Tue Jan 17 2012

You didnt lick the calipers!? Did you?


"Has anyone seen Flick?" (stuck to the flagpole, "A Christmas Story") :lol:

camracer
14:07:49 Tue
Jan 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: AUTO_XX at 01:57:16 Tue Jan 17 2012

Got the pics now, thanks though!
You just keep making sexy drozd upgrades.


Will do!!

SONYtec
04:52:54 Wed
Jan 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 14:06:38 Tue Jan 17 2012

Quote: radical at 02:29:54 Tue Jan 17 2012

You didnt lick the calipers!? Did you?


"Has anyone seen Flick?" (stuck to the flagpole, "A Christmas Story":wink: :lol:



Yup, still stuck to the pole. He ain't goin' any where. :lol:

radical
05:37:56 Wed
Jan 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hahaha... that gives him a new station of residence!

AUTO_XX
04:46:31 Thu
Feb 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just watched the Harold and Khumar christmas movie the other day, it had a "flick" reference in it lol.
I spun the buttons (0.135" diameter) and then made the shoulder so that the board "snaps" into place and the buttons hold it down.
Works great, got the smoked plexi free from a friend that owns a glass shop (2"X24" so more than I need ^_^) but now that the weather has improved I am trying to finish the castings for a steam engine, finish a gas/alternator project, build a gassifier to run the forge (and an engine if I feel like it eventually) as well as about 15 other projects...
Too much to do when you only work in the summer :biggrin:

radical
05:19:09 Thu
Feb 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Some pics! My friend!

Sergey_new_pcb
16:04:14 Thu
Feb 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
#60 board goes to Canada.

SONYtec
16:34:02 Thu
Feb 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
60, wow, selling good now.

camracer
23:11:28 Thu
Feb 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 16:04:14 Thu Feb 2 2012

#60 board goes to Canada.


Nice Sergey!!! I gave you a couple more "tags" in my latest Youtube video! ---Cam

radical
23:22:40 Thu
Feb 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Now 2 Countries! Way to go Sergey!

motrdyd
03:38:41 Fri
Feb 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey Sergey
Do u want me to keep sergeyboards.com up and running I've sent u a few emails and pm for site updates and I don't know what to do buddy
Thanks
Motrdyd

radical
06:56:42 Fri
Feb 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Like Motyrdys says. Come to America and get rich without dealing with the sh*t of international scrutiny.

radical
07:03:24 Fri
Feb 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
double...

motrdyd
06:29:09 Wed
Feb 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey
What's up bro email me so I can put some new pics and links on your site
Motrdyd@local728.com
If u want me to take the site down I can or I can drive a shit load of traffic
To it I never registered your site with the search engines just get ahold of
Me so I know what to do with www.sergeyboards.com

Thanks
MOTRDYD

cpu77
12:31:02 Wed
Feb 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I like the the site! Definitely what he needs!

DUBB
13:39:23 Wed
Feb 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 06:29:09 Wed Feb 29 2012

Sergey
What's up bro email me so I can put some new pics and links on your site
Motrdyd@local728.com
If u want me to take the site down I can or I can drive a shit load of traffic
To it I never registered your site with the search engines just get ahold of
Me so I know what to do with www.sergeyboards.com

Thanks
MOTRDYD

That's cool that you ask. Now me, I would just register the search engines, and tell him about it after the fact. I don't know if that's the mechanic in me, that fixes anything related to safety, (arbitrarily, nothing unsafe to the public at large would ever leave my shop under it's own power... liability is a drag) or if I'm just an egomainiac, I'm not sure. I guess I figure if you aren't out to do the best you can, just because you can, why bother?

motrdyd
03:26:49 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ya dubb I have all these free ad credits thru godaddy like 400 bucks worth
I also started a site www.jimcinnovations.com for Jim but there both so busy Jim's is way under construction and it needs more work
And I want to do just what they want ya know Jim c has a bunch of stuff
He made we all haven't seen yet I'm just doing the web stuff to help them out and I don't want anything and I have a way for Sergey to receive money off the site cuz he can't use PayPal in his country but I just like to
Let them know when there ready I'm here that's why I keep posting I don't want to swap links with out asking its there websites I just made them and host them on my server for free I would like any ideas from you guys for sergeys site like pics or better vids I will post those

MOTRDYD

motrdyd
03:28:07 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Plus the stuff they make is the best did u read the very bottom of
Sergeys site?

motrdyd
03:38:22 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Anybody live by the Santa Clarita area I was hopeing for alittle help
Adjusting my gun
Thanks
Motrdyd

DUBB
12:37:41 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 03:38:22 Thu Mar 1 2012

Anybody live by the Santa Clarita area I was hopeing for alittle help
Adjusting my gun
Thanks
Motrdyd

I hate to tell you this, but our tiny community here is pretty well spread out around the world. I am your closest neighbor, I think, in Las Vegas.

camracer
14:03:21 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 03:28:07 Thu Mar 1 2012

Plus the stuff they make is the best did u read the very bottom of
Sergeys site?


Motrdyd, The bottom of the site is cut off right after the line "...has thrusted our equiptment into..."
(...uh, Huh, huh, huh....:tongue: ) Is there a way to fix that? Anyone else see that? ---Cam

motrdyd
21:04:33 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ya will look at it now


motrdyd
21:08:21 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey cam
I just tested the site on 4 browsers and it shows the whole site will u check
It again when u have time
Thanks



camracer
22:41:45 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 21:08:21 Thu Mar 1 2012

Hey cam
I just tested the site on 4 browsers and it shows the whole site will u check
It again when u have time
Thanks



I just did again. Same situation! What Up?? It can't be me can it??? Never had that issue before, ever.

AUTO_XX
23:33:38 Thu
Mar 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I get it too, on firefox here.
Might be browser related.

camracer
12:31:26 Fri
Mar 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I use firefox also...

radical
00:05:39 Sat
Mar 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Mozilla as well...

motrdyd
05:20:00 Sat
Mar 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I will look n to it tonight thanks guys

motrdyd
01:48:38 Mon
Mar 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
ok let me know now

camracer
23:35:12 Mon
Mar 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ok. Yep, I can read it all, but the big red Russian star at the lower left, I can see EXACTLY half of that star. Is that supposed to be that way?




radical
02:16:16 Tue
Mar 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:35:12 Mon Mar 5 2012

Ok. Yep, I can read it all, but the big red Russian star at the lower left, I can see EXACTLY half of that star. Is that supposed to be that way?


Not sure Cam what ur referring to.

SONYtec
04:43:56 Tue
Mar 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I see the bottom of the star chopped, also typo's.

"... do with out him. !!!"

Should be: without him!!!



"Thank you from use all."

Use should be us.

camracer
00:34:57 Fri
Mar 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah, a few typo's in there.
Grammar people. Graaammmer! Speling iz phun! :lol:

robertaugust
03:37:17 Fri
Mar 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Check the website badassbbguns.com. It is for sale as well as some of my stock

robertaugust
03:41:08 Fri
Mar 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have a ton of Voodoo Tactical cases that I'm gonna let go for really cheap

radical
18:39:50 Sun
Mar 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good site RA! With the longer barrel I'm definitely needing the size pouches you have. Whats the BBForum Password discount :smile:

Sergey_new_pcb
18:39:09 Mon
Mar 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Number 67 is on the way to Germany,
68 - Canada,
69 - California,
70 - Indonesia.

Sorry, all these people had to wait a little longer than I thought they would.

camracer
23:04:06 Tue
Mar 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 18:39:09 Mon Mar 12 2012

Number 67 is on the way to Germany,
68 - Canada,
69 - California,
70 - Indonesia.

Sorry, all these people had to wait a little longer than I thought they would.


Oooh! Indonesia!! The "corners" of the world are getting "Chipped"!!

Nice! ---Cam

drozdandconfused
15:43:08 Thu
Mar 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It was probably mentioned before, but until I had one it would have gone over my head. Sergey, I just realized that your town had one of the two major Mosin-Nagant factories. Cool. Even though mine is a Tula.:sad:

Sergey_new_pcb
16:04:15 Thu
Mar 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This 250-years old famous plant is in deep decay today.

It's the factory's main tower, front and rear sides.





jkdrozd
03:36:07 Fri
Mar 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
sergey, i havent been in this forum for about 5-6 yrs and lots have changed,,, your chip board is killer for the blackbird, i hav an oldr bumble bee moddded out



anyhow the old building in pic reminds me of an old county jail in my area that was built 1823,, old brickwork was amazing,,,,

hey what ups radical, havent seen ur gunz in ages man,,
peace
jkdrozd

radical
04:05:45 Fri
Mar 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote:

hey what ups radical, havent seen ur gunz in ages man,,
peace
jkdrozd


I post them as much as i can on the hang with ur drozd thread. I believe its pretty current aside for the dozens of air pistols and air rifles. When I have more cash available after all the med bills, Im going the whole route with a BB to get it as close to Cams great mods. Right now Im in to comp grade air pistols and rifle. Got a Beeman R9 Elite and my Airforce Condor. Hpw can you beat a rifle that will place a .22 match grade pellets into the three leaf cluster on the clubs at 100 feet. Barely a 16th separation btw the wholes. Have bought many more firearms since last I remember you used to hand out here. The intelligence pool has skyrocketed and imagination is rampant. Plus many other topics constantly keep the fresh air coming in. Hope you get a chance to do some catch up on things. Everyone here is ready to answer any and all of your question(no matter how many times they come up).
The members here are A-One individuals.

jkdrozd
06:50:50 Fri
Mar 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
hey radical,
]right u r, lots of new stuff,,, i still old model bumble bee with 18"jimc sub barrel, but i wanna add a blackbird mag and whatever chipboard works best with, was at drozdmax.com and they had a modboard that lets u change to hi cap blbird mag,,, but def lots of new n helpful info i saw tonight,,stay well
ltr
jk

motrdyd
08:01:01 Thu
Mar 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sorry guys for not answering your questions till now but ya I pushed the star into the corner u think I should move more out I did it that way because if the star sits under text the text gets hard to read with the colors
And I will check the spelling LOL and let me know if there's any cool pics or vids u guys have and I will make more pages I don't want to offend the fourm here but I was wondering if I should add a fourm on sergeyboards.com just for people who are have n trouble or just point them here better like a better link in a different place let me know what ya think remember it's from us all

radical
16:54:06 Thu
Mar 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: jkdrozd at 06:50:50 Fri Mar 16 2012

hey radical,
]right u r, lots of new stuff,,, i still old model bumble bee with 18"jimc sub barrel, but i wanna add a blackbird mag and whatever chipboard works best with, was at drozdmax.com and they had a modboard that lets u change to hi cap blbird mag,,, but def lots of new n helpful info i saw tonight,,stay well
ltr
jk


Im with you, JK, just waiting for the right time to get a BB mag. When its all tested and the mounting instruction clear and ready, Im on it.

zoleg
16:12:19 Sat
Mar 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This board really rocks !
Got my Drozd all done and ready to rock'n'roll !!!

radical
19:04:56 Sat
Mar 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome Zoleg. Lots of mods ahead of you. Pose all and any questions you have. Theres NO question asked here thats flamed ever. Lets see some pics!

camracer
00:38:30 Sun
Apr 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome zoleg. Post some photos when you get modding!

burdaug
22:08:08 Tue
Apr 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey, I see board 71 has landed on Canadian soil, can't wait...

Sergey_new_pcb
12:26:13 Thu
Apr 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The new boards look more like factory-made but I still have to populate them with components and test manually. The first board like this is on the way to Hawaii.

Overall view and magazine mode jumper position:





SONYtec
13:32:50 Thu
Apr 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
WOW Sergey, that looks AWESOME!!!!

Great job!!!

Sergey_new_pcb
20:29:30 Thu
Apr 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m


camracer
00:04:03 Fri
Apr 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Holy Crapskies!! Sergey, That looks like it was made in some robot controlled factory!! Your work is amazing.

What else have you done to your newest board??! What are the improvements?? Cool!!

By the way, send that "Hawaii" board to me first. I want to hitch a ride over there with it!! :lol: ---Cam

cripskillz
05:47:08 Fri
Apr 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm ready to get on the list and cash in hand leme find out how to do it happy days commin...

:smile:

camracer
10:39:21 Fri
Apr 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: cripskillz at 05:47:08 Fri Apr 13 2012

I'm ready to get on the list and cash in hand leme find out how to do it happy days commin...

:smile:


Just give Sergey an e-mail.

cripskillz
02:19:28 Sun
Apr 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
All set just waitn now...

camracer
13:24:30 Sun
Apr 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: cripskillz at 02:19:28 Sun Apr 15 2012

All set just waitn now...


Worth the wait!!

radical
01:54:19 Mon
Apr 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Damn already rocking with the seniors with 10 posts! Look forward to hearing when it comes and try to work your efforts onto nights when others are on board. Or just stop post questions and continue when you get what you need answer wise. Just let us know.

cripskillz
03:08:49 Mon
Apr 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thx guys, I know you kno the saying bout smart people and talking lol I don't talk much only when needed but.. I do contain plenty of info :wink: and will help anytime I can.. I read lots so only ask needed?,,, all info here already has me working fine, but fine isn't where Ilike to be hehe..

Serg board on way HPA in hand next week it's all commin together being I just was looking for bb pistol for fun now I'm 550$ in and all the family kids love me lol..

Im a real gun guy but do love the fact I can play in my own yard now.. I guess there alll real just some won't have to law at your door..

More next week and thx for all the info...

Figured out wasn't blowin gass by any seals it was over filled co2, Los Been working great now that I'm not blowing liquid co2 out the barrel

drozdandconfused
17:10:24 Tue
Apr 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: crips

Im a real gun guy but do love the fact I can play in my own yard now.. I guess there alll real just some won't have to law at your door.


That is a huge part of the appeal of this gun, that it can be used in an urban environment. It seems like most of the people that own them are in firearm restrictive States and/or Countries. Telling the neighbors you got a new airsoft helps. I use lots of pneumatic tools e.g., nail gun, air chisel, which gets the neighbors used to strange noises coming from my house :lol:

I can hear the new guys 2 doors down shooting all the time, but it sounds like a Crosman 760.....amatures!:rotflmao:

Sergey, the new board looks really nice! A work of art!

Sergey_new_pcb
23:25:03 Mon
Apr 23 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
OMG! This thread is one year old already. Congratulations to all visitors especially old and regular ones.

I mean it. Thanks GD, Cam, DnC, DUBB, TBK and others.

camracer
23:50:52 Mon
Apr 23 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 23:25:03 Mon Apr 23 2012

OMG! This thread is one year old already. Congratulations to all visitors especially old and regular ones.

I mean it. Thanks GD, Cam, DnC, DUBB, TBK and others.


You bet my Russian Brother!! We'll keep it alive for you!

---Camracer

radical
05:12:27 Tue
Apr 24 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The Greek has got 6:00 as well here in KC!

Sergey_new_pcb
17:32:52 Wed
May 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m


camracer
17:40:51 Wed
May 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:32:52 Wed May 16 2012



Oooooh!! A new format??

I like the idea of having that solenoid output a quick disconnect, as well as the power supply!

What's the application you were building that board for Sergey??
...other than the Drozd???

---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
19:41:56 Wed
May 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's still a SB-2 (ver.3) sent to California a while ago. Its owner modified it this way. I guess it's for some deeply upgraded Drozd but I'm too shy to ask about any details :smile:

Anyway, it just proves my old thesis that this electronic board is your experiment site -- you can configure it for whatever purpose you want. You can even dial a phone number with it wth some old phone station working in pulse mode :smile:

DUBB
22:37:11 Wed
May 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:32:52 Wed May 16 2012

My guess is that he broke both the power switch, and the trigger. Most likely the little metal spring that they both have in common. Switches like that occured to me as a possible workaround for those. And he has a remote battery connection, I have wires like that attached to mine, since I wired up the 18650's in the stock.

camracer
00:38:12 Thu
May 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb

You can even dial a phone number with it with some old phone station working in pulse mode :smile:


Heh! Yeah I suppose so!! ...or at least YOU could! It would take some serious long time for me to figure out that one!
:lol:

DUBB
04:46:11 Fri
May 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
When I was a kid, I came into an old Army EE8 field phone. I could dail out with that by tapping the wire to the terminal. I could climb up the pole, and call anywhere in the world, free. It took a little practice, but it could be done. So I got a good laugh when Sergey mentioned that, because he's absolutely right, it would make that soooo much easier to use his board!

ps, a tape recording of a tone phone would do it, too.

radical
05:20:14 Fri
May 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hah!! I like that, DUBB!

camracer
10:35:12 Fri
May 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice!

AUTO_XX
15:28:56 Fri
May 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It was called phishing when I was young, still works with payphones if you do it right but don't stick around too long.
It's not exactly legal...

Sergey_new_pcb
15:01:13 Mon
May 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Attention SB-1 owners.

There is a Drozd owner from Yaroslavl, Russia who wants an obsolete SB with 1200 RPM maximum ROF. If you want to sell your old board and get newest SB-2 from me, it's your chance. I'll post his e-mail here as soon as I have it.

Please notice that your old board is $10 more expensive so you get a better board and some extra profit.

P.S. I have no idea why he believes 2000 RPM is too much.

radical
15:57:59 Mon
May 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Not sure what you mean by SB. Are you saying he wants an old drozd board with the 1200 chip? I would certainly offer one of mine if it means getting one of your 2000ROF board

**CLAIM First Ill Take it** If my reference is correct!

Radical

Sergey_new_pcb
21:40:24 Mon
May 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

Are you saying he wants an old drozd board with the 1200 chip?


Good question. Maybe I don't undrstand him, too. I'll find it out.

camracer
23:03:46 Mon
May 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have an SB-1 version board. It needs repair. I will need another SB-2 version soon.

Sergey, I was going to send mine back to you to fix. (Plus payment for your time, of course.)

Rad, "SB" is for "Sergey's Board". I started referring to it that way and it stuck. I like it! (Sergey's Board is referred to in my videos. )

---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
00:08:39 Tue
May 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

SB-1 version board...
It needs repair


What's happened to it?

DUBB
00:36:49 Tue
May 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I had a little issue with mine, today. I installed my new breech seal (thanks, totalh!), and when I put it back together, the led came on, but no display, no action. Now the first thing is to ask that hardest of questions: "how did I cause this? (I only changed my breech seal)" Simple: by knocking something loose with the barrel as I slid that back in. It was the regulator that feeds the chip, as it turned out. Already fixed. I guess I just mentioned this because this is probably the best way to screw up your board, be very, very, carefull when you slide the barrel through the reciever.

I gues then, that the first thing to do if you have trouble, is the "wiggle test". Feel if any of the parts that stand up are loose. This was particularly easy to diagnose.

Sergey_new_pcb
10:55:20 Tue
May 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
OK, everything is correct. His e-mail is rezerv1900 [at] mail [dot] ru , his name is Vladimir. He wants that 1200 RPM board:



You may also contact me in case you have any questions. My e-mail is
e-go [at] inbox [dot] ru ,
Skype: sergey.pismensky,
phone: +7-9O-9O-5OO-8OO.

camracer
21:56:25 Tue
May 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 00:36:49 Tue May 22 2012

I had a little issue with mine, today. I installed my new breech seal (thanks, totalh!), and when I put it back together, the led came on, but no display, no action. Now the first thing is to ask that hardest of questions: "how did I cause this? (I only changed my breech seal)" Simple: by knocking something loose with the barrel as I slid that back in. It was the regulator that feeds the chip, as it turned out. Already fixed. I guess I just mentioned this because this is probably the best way to screw up your board, be very, very, carefull when you slide the barrel through the reciever.

I gues then, that the first thing to do if you have trouble, is the "wiggle test". Feel if any of the parts that stand up are loose. This was particularly easy to diagnose.


Excellent point DUBB! Every time I take apart my gun, I have this innate fear that I will push the barrel back into the slide and contact the capacitor leads in some funky way. (Even though you disconnect the batteries....., Y'all do that right??? Well, you better!) ...Worried about that stored charge. Well, caution has treated me right so far.

---Cam

DUBB
07:26:19 Thu
May 24 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
There is no stored charge. I can't remember how my original board was, but Sergey's boards have an spdt for the main power switch. An spdt connects the pin in the center, with either of the ones on either side (3 pins, total), depending on which way the switch throes. Its wired with the circuit for the board to the center pin, with the power on one side, and the other goes through a big resistor, to ground. So the board is drained in the off position. Without that, the board takes a long time to power off, as the board drains out the capacitor. It never stores a charge.

SONYtec
13:39:40 Thu
May 24 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 07:26:19 Thu May 24 2012

There is no stored charge. I can't remember how my original board was, but Sergey's boards have an spdt for the main power switch. An spdt connects the pin in the center, with either of the ones on either side (3 pins, total), depending on which way the switch throes. Its wired with the circuit for the board to the center pin, with the power on one side, and the other goes through a big resistor, to ground. So the board is drained in the off position. Without that, the board takes a long time to power off, as the board drains out the capacitor. It never stores a charge.


The stock board also does the same thing.

radical
01:31:15 Fri
May 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 10:55:20 Tue May 22 2012

OK, everything is correct. His e-mail is rezerv1900 [at] mail [dot] ru , his name is Vladimir. He wants that 1200 RPM board:



You may also contact me in case you have any questions. My e-mail is
e-go [at] inbox [dot] ru ,
Skype: sergey.pismensky,
phone: +7-9O-9O-5OO-8OO.


Sergey, are you directing that claim for a 1200 chip from me? I have several and they are intended for regular Drozds I have for sale. I will not remove a stock board creating a useless Drozd. Please clarify what you are wanting, if it is from my offer.

Rad

Sergey_new_pcb
01:59:08 Fri
May 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm not really sure how to do it the best way. This Russian guy wants a board like the one shown on the photo. I do not make them anymore, it's a pain in the *ss to search for all those old files, drawings etc. I can make a 2000 RPM board instead. If someone in the US or Canada has that 1200 RPM board with DC-DC converter he has a good chance to upgrade his Drozd with a newer board virtually for free. First, it's necessary to contact Vladimir and make sure he hasn't changed his mind. Then I guess I'll be a sort of arbiter. Vladimir will have to send me the money and after I have it I'll ask the American/Canadian counterpart to send the old board to me. I'll check it (and repair it if necessary) and send it to Vladimir. At the same time I'll send the new 2000 board to US/Canada. I think direct shipment between Vladimir and American/Canadian board owner would be a bit risky, that's why it sounds so complicated and involves me in the middle. I swear I won't get an extra penny from it -- just a regular new board charge.

radical
03:13:38 Fri
May 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Im cool with swapping a board with the 1200 xhip on it for one of your newer 2000 boards. Send details and shipping costs to :

hzauchenberger@kc.rr.com

DUBB
06:58:42 Fri
May 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Vladimir does know that the 2000 board still has a 1200 setting, right? I dunno, I think the new board is a big improvement, particularly for the switch away from the power supply board. I recall getting you to make me a 12v board, since 9v just wasn't cutting it at all. Anyway, I love the new setup, and don't use the regulator at all, mine is bypaassed, so I can give my nichibo all 21v. It screams, almost never have airshots, even at 2000rpm. love it.

Sergey_new_pcb
19:46:49 Tue
May 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote:

Vladimir does know that the 2000 board still has a 1200 setting, right?

He surely does. I sent him a message today to find out if he had changed his mind.

OK, gentlemen, let me clarify one thing I should have explained clearer before. The latest boards look like they are factory-made:



Let me stress it -- I still assmble them manually, I personally download the software into the processor and then carefully check each board's performance with my test bed before it's shipped.

Local plant only makes the empty boards I populate with components later. By the way, their quality can hardly be any better.



So, I can make them just a little bit faster now but please be patient, it still takes a day or two to make a board like this.

Questions/orders:
E-mail: e-go [you-know-what] inbox [dot] ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-5OO-8OO

SONYtec
03:38:13 Wed
May 30 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey,

That production made board looks AWESOME!!!

It also means consistantcy in quality, and parts placement, I.E. switches.

It is even better than a factory Baikal board.

AWESOME!!!

DUBB
06:33:07 Wed
May 30 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
So you just had a quantity of boards printed up professionally, by photolithography process, instead of etching them out by hand, yourself, right? That is how you did the old ones, if I recall, correct? I think I asked you once, since I know that there are a couple of different kinds of diy photolithorgaphy kits available, and you said that you just etched them out the hard way, by hand, somehow. That sounds like a lot of work to me. And you have to have a minimum order to have them made up like that, and it can be pretty expensive, if I recall.

For those who don't know, electronics these days are made starting with a printed board like that, but where Sergey assembles his by hand, with a soldering iron, factory boards are first "silk screened" with a soldering paste with finely powedered solder mixed in, then as they roll through the line, the smd components are placed onto the board (they just stick to the paste, which is only on the places the parts go), then they roll into a huge oven, and "baked" until the solder in the paste is melted, and flows out evenly. The trick to doing it is to get the tempurature correct, so that the solder flows good, but not so hot as to damage the components. It's a fine line. Microsoft's Xbox 360's all had the "red ring of death" problem, caused by the oven not being hot enough. The components would just come off the board, sometimes. They sucked. The fix for that they sell is "reflow" soldering paste, I assume that you apply to the board, then apply a lot of heat, somehow. What a pain in the ass. Sergey's boards won't ever have that issue, since he solders it all by hand.

I like the look of my old board better, I think. It looks more exclusive to me. Custom, trick, whatever. To me the hand made board says that there arent many out there, and that it wasnt easy to come by.

Sergey_new_pcb
12:21:38 Wed
May 30 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks DUBB and SONYtec.

I forgot to mention that the plant marks each board with individual number and manufacturing date.



camracer
23:55:49 Wed
May 30 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Beautiful!! Love to watch the evolution!! :tongue:

SONYtec
01:54:18 Thu
May 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dubb,

The issue with the XBox, is that they used lead free solder, which melts at a lower temperature. Since they did not vent the XBox well, the internal temp of the unit would get hot enough to melt the solder a bit and cause the "red ring of death."


MMMMUAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

:lol:

BTW the method of soldering that you mentioned is called "wave soldering."

radical
05:11:56 Thu
May 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
ST , post a u tube like if you have one.

DUBB
12:30:52 Thu
May 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just watched a great movie, that had stupid Americans (with balls, though), incredibly resourcefull Russians, running around in Moscow, battling EVIL ALIEN FORCES. It was called "The Darkest Hours", and it was very fun to watch, even if I couldnt understand the Russians. You still got the jist of it: aliens suck........ and they were electrical aliens, no less.

You might like this one, Sergey, for once, the Russians don't look anything like this:

In fact, everyone (every one who makes, it, anyway) is a hero. You cant help but root for them all, you know?

The best part is, the Russians knew to wear TIN FOIL HATS as aromor against the aliens. Hell, they had tin foil armor, and all. I'm a firm believer in anti-alien tin foil hats, you know.

SONYtec
14:43:35 Thu
May 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inHzaJIE7-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=g2TXhqCq9-c&feature=fvwp

SONYtec
14:50:36 Thu
May 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qk5vxWY46A&feature=related

Sergey_new_pcb
16:41:10 Sat
Jun 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm getting more and more involved into my laser projector modifications
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_M7HxZNtpE)
so I don't have enough time to keep making boards for all Drozd owners. I still love it but I need to keep on moving forward.

Gentlemen (and Ladies, if any), I've just sold the right to produce and sell SB-2 in Russia and former Soviet territories to a Russian businessman named Alexandr.

I reserve the right to sell boards to customers from outside Russia and ex-Soviet territories.

Board owners from US, Canada and other countries don't have to worry -- I'll be able to provide you with any maintenance should it be required.

INFORMATION FOR NEW CUSTOMERS: If you live outside Russia contact me directly if you are ready to order a board or have any questions regarding its performance etc.

Sergey_new_pcb
21:13:28 Tue
Jun 26 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It seems the boards' owners density per square mile is highest in California :smile: -- one more board has been sent there today.

The next one will be sent to Canada in a couple of days.

camracer
21:58:51 Tue
Jun 26 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 21:13:28 Tue Jun 26 2012

It seems the boards' owners density per square mile is highest in California :smile: -- one more board has been sent there today.

The next one will be sent to Canada in a couple of days.


Legal Full-Auto. Great to have!!

I am close to ordering my second circuit board for myself. Gonna buy another Drozd soon. Need to go back to the "pistol" version, as I need a "grab and eliminate" rodent control gun. The rifle I made is too bulky to "grab and go", But it sure RULES!!

Anyone who is thinking about this mod... DO IT! No other bb machine gun in the world compares to it, HANDS DOWN (....in prayer mode to the god!.....eh, hem ...'Sergey'! )

E'nuff Said!

---Cam

Kinetic_Genius
02:37:24 Wed
Jun 27 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just ordered one board now, I can't wait to see it soon!

cripskillz
23:17:12 Wed
Jun 27 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Mine is in n rdy lil modded ,, but thankyou much,, me be happpy mofo... And your work is excellent,, ,

camracer
00:15:14 Fri
Jun 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: cripskillz at 23:17:12 Wed Jun 27 2012

Mine is in n rdy lil modded ,, but thankyou much,, me be happpy mofo... And your work is excellent,, ,


im'n groreat yabba goo n'ffmnn groble scumpy!

Cheerz Crip! Almost Friday on my end!! :lol:

radical
04:59:27 Fri
Jun 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Bet you could make some awesome glass true glow sights! All you need to do is work with a little radiation from tritium! ;?P

Sergey_new_pcb
14:48:03 Fri
Jun 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes, Canada. Washington state is gettin' ready for the next one.

cripskillz
04:35:45 Tue
Jul 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
done ripppe the crap out of it few times now,, deff best bb gun i got ,, lol better than some of my real guns lol..

ill add my internal lazer sight n flash light b e done next..,, stilll need to make buttons... workin on owning my first ultralight here by end of year weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....then ill mount em to wings n hunt ducks from air,, :rotflmao:

AUTO_XX
05:01:45 Tue
Jul 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I guess I don't speak gangsta...
I'm only catching about a quarter of what you are trying to say.

Either that or a 7 year-old shouldn't be playing with a full-auto BB gun.

camracer
10:17:20 Tue
Jul 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: cripskillz at 04:35:45 Tue Jul 3 2012

done ripppe the crap out of it few times now,, deff best bb gun i got ,, lol better than some of my real guns lol..

ill add my internal lazer sight n flash light b e done next..,, stilll need to make buttons... workin on owning my first ultralight here by end of year weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....then ill mount em to wings n hunt ducks from air,, :rotflmao:


I'd LOVE to have an ultralight aircraft of some sort. Since I was a kid, I always wanted to build a one man helicopter! Wonder what kind of trouble you could get in mounting airguns "James Bond" style to an ultralight... :lol:

---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
23:42:48 Thu
Jul 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hong-Kong has just joined the club.

radical
00:01:54 Fri
Jul 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quing chow hi madarochu!

DUBB
11:35:37 Fri
Jul 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 10:17:20 Tue Jul 3 2012

Quote: cripskillz at 04:35:45 Tue Jul 3 2012

done ripppe the crap out of it few times now,, deff best bb gun i got ,, lol better than some of my real guns lol..

ill add my internal lazer sight n flash light b e done next..,, stilll need to make buttons... workin on owning my first ultralight here by end of year weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....then ill mount em to wings n hunt ducks from air,, :rotflmao:


I'd LOVE to have an ultralight aircraft of some sort. Since I was a kid, I always wanted to build a one man helicopter! Wonder what kind of trouble you could get in mounting airguns "James Bond" style to an ultralight... :lol:

---Cam
I used to work for a guy building Benson KB2 Gyrocopters, the same as the "Little Nellie" in the James Bond movie. He fabricated most of it not to the kits, though. For instance, he welded the airframes, instead of bolting them together, because he could. This is where we had a problem. Instead of using plywood for the tail surfaces, he fabricated his from aluminum. When I pointed out that this would make them theoretically unsound to fly (and he had issues with flyabilty, they were twitchy), because he had made airfoils, that gave lift where none should be (not the center of balance), and described what should happen: when the foreward airspeed finally reaches the "stall speed" for his airfoil, it probably just flip over upside down, and it'll want to porpoise wildly as the speed changes below that. This fit problems he had perfectly, unknown to me. When he realized that I was right, well that was pretty much the end of me working there. I was the lowest man on the proverbial totem pole, admittedly, I was the last person in the shop that should have caught that before anyone else did. But boy, the work he did was absolutely beautiful, easy on the eyes, allbeit not so much on the controls. I think it only made matters worse that I had the solution, too: make the horizontal stabizers symmetrically pitched, like the vertical one is, no more lift= safe to fly again. "Fuck you wiseass, you're fired."
People never want to hear the truth, and usually dont like what they hear when they do.

cripskillz
11:49:31 Fri
Jul 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
7 yr old gangstas rule the net get used to it,, you shouldn't be playing at all ,,least not till you get that stick removed from your anus... :smile:

camracer
13:34:30 Sun
Jul 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 11:35:37 Fri Jul 6 2012

I used to work for a guy building Benson KB2 Gyrocopters, the same as the "Little Nellie" in the James Bond movie. He fabricated most of it not to the kits, though. For instance, he welded the airframes, instead of bolting them together, because he could. This is where we had a problem. Instead of using plywood for the tail surfaces, he fabricated his from aluminum. When I pointed out that this would make them theoretically unsound to fly (and he had issues with flyabilty, they were twitchy), because he had made airfoils, that gave lift where none should be (not the center of balance), and described what should happen: when the foreward airspeed finally reaches the "stall speed" for his airfoil, it probably just flip over upside down, and it'll want to porpoise wildly as the speed changes below that. This fit problems he had perfectly, unknown to me. When he realized that I was right, well that was pretty much the end of me working there. I was the lowest man on the proverbial totem pole, admittedly, I was the last person in the shop that should have caught that before anyone else did. But boy, the work he did was absolutely beautiful, easy on the eyes, allbeit not so much on the controls. I think it only made matters worse that I had the solution, too: make the horizontal stabizers symmetrically pitched, like the vertical one is, no more lift= safe to fly again. "Fuck you wiseass, you're fired."
People never want to hear the truth, and usually dont like what they hear when they do.


Heh, heh, heh! Nice! ...well, that's what I like about this forum. I don't care how new (or old) someone is here, I'll always value a new point of view, ...'cause maybe I can use it and make it BETTER!! :wink: :lol: Right??!

---Cam

motrdyd
03:38:46 Tue
Jul 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
its good to see your doing good sergey
keep up the good work by the way your sites still up if u need any changes let me know or i can make u and admin and u can do it k


camracer
23:42:01 Tue
Jul 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 03:38:46 Tue Jul 10 2012

its good to see your doing good sergey
keep up the good work by the way your sites still up if u need any changes let me know or i can make u and admin and u can do it k


You're a great guy motrdyd!! Ask for nothing, give it all!! Man this forum ROCKS!! :smash:

---Cam

Kinetic_Genius
19:18:00 Mon
Jul 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I got my Sergey board on Friday, it took about 2 weeks as Sergey said it would..




I must say this Sergey is a pro and the packaging is top notch!

I managed to install the board in my Drozd, I still need to finish up the display port with some smoothing out and will probably put a plexy glass window in there..



The Sergey board is quite easy to operate, each button has it's own unique function so there is no need to push multiple buttons or programming nessary!




radical
19:31:52 Mon
Jul 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Resized for us:





Kinetic_Genius
19:54:07 Mon
Jul 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks.. I keep on forgetting that not everyone has a 30" LCD monitor like me..:lol::rotflmao:

radical
20:38:03 Mon
Jul 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Lol! I could have put it on the 47" Samsung Smart 3D TV in front of me. Resizing was easiest:wink:

DUBB
04:17:55 Tue
Jul 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Those are some nice buttons, there, Rad. What did you make those from, anyway? Mine are silicone rubber "skirts" that came out from under the hard buttons of dead gamepads, and those have the tops of those thigies that lock down the heatsink to small cpu's, like video cards have.

The yellow one is GD's, I didn't have any more of those thingies to make hard tops from, so those are just bare silicone. But they make great buttons like that, too.

Sergey_new_pcb
16:49:47 Sat
Jul 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have run out of the green boards shown earlier in this thread and had to make a couple of boards manually again. As I forgot what serial number was on the board I made manually last time, I had to make one of these boards very "individual".



This board will go to US on Monday.

The next batch of green boards will be available in August.

camracer
00:00:54 Sun
Jul 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very Cool Sergey!!

I'm going to be ordering a new SG-2 board from you in the next week or so. That's #2 for me!! How can you own a Drozd without this amazing circuit board replacement!!! WOW!! :tongue:

---Cam

...Oh, and BTW, you have "comic book" perfect penmanship Sergey!! ...You know what I mean?? (.....You write like a "scholar")

DUBB
18:49:24 Sun
Jul 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
And just because it's a good thing for the business, I thought that I would point out that in conjunction with Drozdmax.com now having bb magazines for $80 (is that right?), you can update the old Drozd with a Sergey board for about the same $200 difference between those and the bb. Deal, I say. It's almost like getting the board upgrade for free!

green_dots
19:13:50 Sun
Jul 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello all.I have done just what DUBB is suggesting and can report that it works great. GD.

Sergey_new_pcb
19:34:24 Sun
Jul 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB and Green Dots -- you are my best friends now :smile:

DUBB
07:57:10 Mon
Jul 23 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
As a matter of fact, I did GD's reciever for that, and so I have pix. The color says it all: That can only be a bumblebee with a Sergey board in it.....


Glad to help, Sergey. It's only a matter of drilling one more hole for the magazine plug difference as far as the installation is concerned, so updating the older ones with your boards makes sense. Someone said they sold off their old one, to buy a new bb, then he got one of your boards, I wish I had pointed this out sooner, it would have cut the cost in half for him. GD's looks pretty sharp, now. I have it down to a science, my silicone button install, it comes out really nice, not to brag, or anything. But it does.

DUBB
11:07:27 Mon
Jul 23 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well, maybe I spoke too soon. Drozdmax is out of stock on spare mags, at the moment, it seems. And they are $100, but that is still a deal, if he gets more in. My figures presume the improbable, like that you could sell a used Drozd for the same ammount that a new one costs, for instance. It will still cost less to upgrade an old one than to replace it, and that still puts you a Sergey board ahead, no matter how you look at it. It just hinges on availability of bb mags, I'm afraid.

There is always a catch, I hate that.


Awesomeness
06:39:05 Fri
Jul 27 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This board looks awesome. can't wait to get my hand on it.
Thanks Sergey for your great work.
Teddy

motrdyd
02:23:05 Sat
Jul 28 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sorry was out for a bit but I will make a place where people can post pics
I will let you know when it's up

DUBB
12:16:44 Sat
Jul 28 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 02:23:05 Sat Jul 28 2012

Sorry was out for a bit but I will make a place where people can post pics
I will let you know when it's up

You should probably add somewhere that whenever Drozdmax is in stock of replacement bb mags, that one of those, and one of Sergey's boards costs about the same as the difference between the old Drozd, and the BB. So an upgrade would cost the same as an uptrade, but it would be like with the upgrade to the old one, you get the board for free. IF you can get a magazine, they seem to sell out pretty quick. But it's still a good point to make. And you can add the link, so anyone interested can see if they can get a mag out of Drozdmax, at the time....
http://www.drozdmax.com/accessories/drozd-blackbird-magazine.html

motrdyd
05:52:17 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
http://www.eaacorp.com/catalog/. U can almost build a mag with the parts here drozd. And drozd2

And I will talk to sergery to ask him if he wants a competior on his site or if I'm not around will u ask for me dub
Thanks
Motrdyd

motrdyd
05:56:45 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Eaa outa stock of mags too I just noticed they do sell full blackbird mags also

motrdyd
05:58:50 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
How much r the v.3 boards

Sergey_new_pcb
06:06:56 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Still $120 includind shipping from Russia to US/Canada.

motrdyd
06:15:11 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
So middle August I will be buying

motrdyd
06:16:54 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Did u do a post with the specs of the v.3 board so I can change the info on your site

camracer
23:48:24 Tue
Aug 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 05:56:45 Tue Aug 7 2012

Eaa outa stock of mags too I just noticed they do sell full blackbird mags also


Really. Motorized Blackbird mags?? When did they start doing this?? Last time I talked to them early this spring, they said they are NO LONGER dealing with Baikal at all......! Maybe they are eliminating the last of their stock?? They can't have brand newly arrived stock.

---Cam

AnotherCanadianDrozd
16:00:22 Thu
Aug 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hoo!

My Sergey board has just arrived! It came with three little button covers made from black plastic. When I first saw pics of them online I thought they were a bit big and ugly, but actually they are quite small or perhaps Sergey changed or switched them up.

I remember other people in older threads receiving extra parts and pieces in case they want to up the voltage or change something specifically. Mine came with no extras, other than the three buttons.

It came on a green printed board with 04.2012 and 06.4.18 in black ink on the back, I am guessing it is what is called version 3 or the newest Sergey Board?

Has everything been worked out so you don't need any spare parts or pieces anymore, or to remove any existing parts and resolder something for a specific voltage or setup?
I am wondering if i can do anything now, after this board install or if there are certain things I must still keep watch over to not damage or fry the internals.

What are my limitations now with this board?

Basically as I understand it, it's a battery voltage thing, that's all right? Stay under 20 or 24 volts and I should be okay?

Or do I need to upgrade to a nichibo motor too, or does that have nothing to do with the Sergey Board voltage limits or whatever?

I was under the impression I would fry my stock motor over 15 volts, is this true? So even if I install this sb3, I should remain under 15v until I change or upgrade the motor?

And it's the blackbird mag motor we are worrying about frying right? The Drozd doesn't have a motor, it has a solenoid for operations and that doesn't matter at all concerning voltage except the more volts the harder the solenoid hits?

I haven't ordered my nichibo yet, but I guess I should soon. I hear feed problems above 1400rpm with the stock motor, I guess volts has nothing to do with it at that point, if the stock motor can't keep up, it can't keep up.

Thanks in advance for your replies.


I guess it's time to hunt out the BEST install threads with pics, if anyone has any thread links and feels like posting them up, that would be awesome. For some reason when i search for things here, it does this weird loading 18,000.00 seconds thing searching, and it stalls out on me. Annoying.

Thanks all. I will be rocking a "Sergey Board" upgrade soon!

camracer
16:05:20 Fri
Aug 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
A "kid in a candy store" you are ACD! Heh, heh!

I can answer a few question you had, But first do you have a 2012 model blackbird? If you do, it is rated for 12v to that mag motor. If you have this motor in your mag you can push it to a higher voltage, but eventually it will fail. Who cares anyway if you a going to upgrade the motor! I say push it until it explodes! then replace with the Nichibo.




That is the upgraded motor Baikal added early this year (or actually late 2011).

If you want to shoot at 2000 rpm, you will need to upgrade your motor to the Nichibo QJT-360S-14280 motor. You can get them from Jameco Electronics (catalog # 206949)

You can see the performance of the stock motor as I tested it in my Youtube video here (Part 1) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc34vyFoWtQ

With Sergey's SB-3 board installed, you can push voltage upwards of 24v without any issues other than to the original (not upgraded) motor.

---Cam



AnotherCanadianDrozd
04:31:33 Tue
Aug 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Awesome!

Well I got my SB-3 installed finally, I had a few issues on the reinstall but finally got everything in there and lined up correctly so all the buttons and trigger function and work correctly.

I will indeed have to get a upgrade motor.

My Drozd Blackbird, in the manual the date is 05-11 so I think it must be a 2011 Blackbird manufactured in the 5th month basically?

And I agree with you, I am gonna run the stock motor to its limits, I wont try to purposely kill it, but I will push it and if it dies, then onward to the Nichibo. I should get one anyways, cause I heard above 1200 rpm I will have feed problems and I should upgrade to take advantage of the 1400-2000 rpm settings.

Appreciate all the help everyone, I definitely feel like I am much behind all of you, so a kid in a candy store yes, but just trying to catch up with all of you! :smile:



camracer
17:40:02 Tue
Aug 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: ACD


My Drozd Blackbird, in the manual the date is 05-11 so I think it must be a 2011 Blackbird manufactured in the 5th month basically?


Yep, that's right. Also, on the receiver just under the solenoid cover is a serial number. The first two digits is the year. The next three "661" is the model. The last five is your number in the production run.

---Cam



radical
02:38:26 Wed
Aug 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Glad I waited. Now I can get the 2012 BB with the better motor.

AnotherCanadianDrozd
05:06:53 Wed
Aug 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
We had no choice in selection of production dates. At the time to my knowledge, the 05-11 production run was the newest, I dont know how many they make in a run, and I guess it also depends on how long the distributor is sitting on them for.

And at the same time, I am sure the distributor could have gotten newer 05-12 production run models in, but they could have set them in order, to sell the earlier dated models first. Anyhow, in Canada, and my friends purchased their Drozd and BB from different places too, we all had the 05-11 production date. Same batch or same shipment maybe I guess?

Good to know they are constantly still making changes and updates, it would just be good to know from Baikal what they do or upgrade each run, but I guess with tinkerers like us taking them apart, they wont keep any secrets from us for too long!

camracer
00:47:03 Thu
Aug 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I got my newest Drozd BB from Ray at DrozdMax. You could ask him to check the serial # before you have him ship one to you.....

---Cam

AnotherCanadianDrozd
02:08:47 Thu
Aug 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
How many Drozd do you own now Cam?

I only have one, and havent owned it for long, but I dont mind taking it to the limits and killing it/breaking it if you may, for it will be a great host of extra parts and spare parts too!

And things I hold myself back from doing now, because I cant order duplicates from EAA like you yankees down south of us, I could start to do and experiement with.

Thats why I would love two Drozd. One just to mess around with, drill into, crack open, add to, subtract from, you all around franken-drozd for testing theories and new developments.

And have one in perfect operating condition, to only take on new mods and additions that passed on the frankendrozd.

I want a classic Drozd stock, so I may end up buying one in the future, just for stock. Just for the stock?!?!?! How wasteful you say. But then I would have a whole gun for spare parts. With availability so low from Baikal, this would be a big plus or benefit to the world of modding. Fuck up? You got a spare to go! Right now its one shot, make or break it, for most of us Drozd folks.

I feel this really holds us back as a major limiter, so many more people would be modding, jumping on the bandwagon, contributing, instead of just spectating, and we would all get things moving forward much much faster.

As it stands, there are a few modders which truly stand out and push the envelope, though this forum is a great gathering place for many others who also have good things and new ways of doing things to contribute to the growing group of Drozd owners.

Anyways, with an extra Drozd, I could do so much with it. I could make a whole new custom gun out of it, or even turn it into a Drozd Blackbird! Just by replacing the Classic PCB wit the stock blackbird board I removed from my SB3 install! Easy and free upgrade, just one hole to drill!

Just need to drill a hole for the blackbird mag jack cord and it would be good to go. Well I guess it wouldnt have the sight rail built in, so it wouldnt be exactly a Blackbird. Again wish I could order from EAA! Theyd probably sell just the upper reciever part.

Then if I could buy just a blackbird magazine from Ray, then I would have 2 blackbirds then, and would have the classic stock I wanted AND have put the blackbird stock board to good use as well. The key is being able to get a blackbird magazine on its own. Any word on when Ray will be getting more or restocking?

Realitiscally, I still got lots of things to buy like bulk air and barrels, so I wouldnt be wasteful and buy another Drozd, just to get a rinky dink piece of plastic stock that I want and dont have right now. And it would depend on if I could get a blackbird magazine, that would make or break the deal. But I would love to have a parts gun, should my current Drozd break, and I dont mind buying a whole new other gun, if so.

I just remember you saying something like, it was your third board purchase from the Sergey master, so I would guess you have at least THREE drozd to yourself. Hehehe.

Do you have any other bb or pellet guns? I often wonder if other Drozd owners here have other bb or pellet guns they favour. Or is the Drozd on the top shelf for them? It is for me. Steel Storm? EBOS? What a joke.

radical
03:33:03 Thu
Aug 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have 4. (2) still NIB and sealed original yell Bumble Bee's as well as extra barrels and 1200 chips. If I don't sell them, I'll fix them up for my college age nephews.

AnotherCanadianDrozd
04:04:17 Thu
Aug 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Wow very cool Radical!

You shop like I used to! Get multiples and stockpile the spares as parts, especially if parts are hard to come by!

I've only seen two different boxes for the Drozd. A complete big brown cardboard box with no logos, pictures or symbols for the Blackbird housed within.

The box I saw for the Classic Drozd was a flimy kinda low quality box with a white back and little text except "DROZD" on the back, and the front is bluish and with some Russian writing.

Well hey, if you decide to to SergeyBoard upgrades on it, let me know, as I have some extra materials like templates and such for the time being, until I run out. Also have the black tinted plastic to place over the LCD. I dont have much left of it, but I think I remember who I got it from, so if I run out and people need more, I can point them where to buy or get some. I still cant remember what brand or what it is exactly called or the primary function or purpose, all I know it is 100% perfect for the SB install, and makes it much quicker and faster than using/cutting/shaping/sanding plexiglass for a window for your LCD.

I could probably give you enough of both button templates and screens for all 4 of them, just let me know before I run out. I already have some requests from PM, and as well I have friends with Drozd I have to help with their installs, so I need to set some of my extras aside for them too.

I will try to do the same with extra magnets and motors, once I come across them, but for right now, even I need magnets and motors still, so I am in no position to help on those - yet.



camracer
00:13:32 Fri
Aug 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: ACD

How many Drozd do you own now Cam?


At least 11.

Well actually, ...Lots of variations of my guns... But I own just two from the factory. It FEELS like 11! I oughta post photos again of all my variations. It's really cool to see them. I'm on it.... Stay tuned!

ACD, BTW..... Welcome to the "money pit"!!!! :lol:

You asked if we have other guns... Well, read through one of the oldest still running threads. Radical started it. Check it out here:
http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=165

I'll be adding to it this weekend!

---Cam

motrdyd
22:43:47 Sat
Aug 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cam
I was just digging around on there site and found that they sell fully built
Mags I will try and keep on digging between back surgerys I've been sorta off and on line when I can think straight

camracer
23:40:17 Sat
Aug 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 22:43:47 Sat Aug 18 2012

Cam
I was just digging around on there site and found that they sell fully built
Mags I will try and keep on digging between back surgerys I've been sorta off and on line when I can think straight


Ok, Cool! I'd like to see what you found.

Think straight Bro!! :lol:

---Cam

radical
18:54:03 Sun
Aug 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 22:43:47 Sat Aug 18 2012

Cam
I was just digging around on there site and found that they sell fully built
Mags I will try and keep on digging between back surgerys I've been sorta off and on line when I can think straight


I can relate to the back problem. My spine is 7.5 mm, should be 14mm. Ive had one surgery and likely will need another. My rt leg is messed up from it. Pain meds 247 to live! Sucks!

camracer
23:29:07 Sun
Aug 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 18:54:03 Sun Aug 19 2012

Quote: motrdyd at 22:43:47 Sat Aug 18 2012

Cam
I was just digging around on there site and found that they sell fully built
Mags I will try and keep on digging between back surgerys I've been sorta off and on line when I can think straight


I can relate to the back problem. My spine is 7.5 mm, should be 14mm. Ive had one surgery and likely will need another. My rt leg is messed up from it. Pain meds 247 to live! Sucks!


Did the weight lifting do that to you??? My back is messed up from just my lifting 200 tons of stone to build my walls, ...well not all at once! :lol:

radical
23:53:53 Sun
Aug 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Actually no. It helped. But when I stopped it got worse. Just lifting lighter and a bit less now.

motrdyd
01:23:25 Wed
Aug 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
2 bulg disk 4 messed up vertebra sciatic nerve that's just what were working on now then the neck and both knees my favorite is my hands
Shake super bad off and on that I have to move my head to the spoon when I eat LOL

radical
03:36:54 Wed
Aug 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 01:23:25 Wed Aug 22 2012

2 bulg disk 4 messed up vertebra sciatic nerve that's just what were working on now then the neck and both knees my favorite is my hands
Shake super bad off and on that I have to move my head to the spoon when I eat LOL


Jeez, man, you have to do everything different to manage. I can relate! It hard to lose the freedom we had when we were younger.
Arthritis too. Thankfully the hands are ok. Still hurt, but being used to it and working through, it usually goes away enough to do business at hand(pun). Then a couple of hour later, pain roars back. Working out actually gives me several hours post of pain free wo meds. Then again it screams back(pun). Ive gotten some better movement in my right foot!I can actuall raise my foot, but the tendon along the instep to the tibia is VERY weak and small. But it coming back! We'll see!

Sergey_new_pcb
15:24:29 Sat
Sep 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Russian post has run out of nice blue boxes with their logo so the next three boards will travel to US and Canada marked "Sunglasses". :smile:



I still have to make them 100% manually but this allows for individual marking with customers' initials or whatever instead of serial number. Here's a couple of examples:

An empty board without components.



Assembled, tested and packed in foam for shipping.




green_dots
19:16:14 Sat
Sep 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Motrdyd.I can relate to your problem.I had 2 problem areas.I had a disc that was deteiorating and where the sciatic nerve was beening pressed and also where the nerve goes through an hole in the hip.The hole had become smaller also pressing on the nerve.Sciatic nerve pain IS THE WORSE PAIN you can suffer.I couldn't stand in one spot for over a minute.It took surgery to cure it but left me with a new pain and there is nothing they can do about it but more surgery.A word of WARNING.If you can avoid oxycotin do.They kill the pain but after about a week you are hooked.I wouldn't take them passed 4 days.Tyennole #3 work very well but we'll bung you up. GD.

DUBB
22:51:54 Tue
Sep 4 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 18:54:03 Sun Aug 19 2012

Quote: motrdyd at 22:43:47 Sat Aug 18 2012

Cam
I was just digging around on there site and found that they sell fully built
Mags I will try and keep on digging between back surgerys I've been sorta off and on line when I can think straight


I can relate to the back problem. My spine is 7.5 mm, should be 14mm. Ive had one surgery and likely will need another. My rt leg is messed up from it. Pain meds 247 to live! Sucks!

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but those pain meds only actually work on pain for about 4 days. After that, any pain they relieve is called withdrawl. Doctors are oblivious to this, as they have never personally been drug addicts, they just go by what the patients say, and they are also oblivious, addicted and in denial. Tollerance is the key, the only way to make that pain go away is to deal with it, most of the time, anyway.

Sergey_new_pcb
15:45:32 Mon
Sep 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Some non-medical news:

1. Thailand has just joined the club. Congratularions to me, to the board and to the Blackbird owner from Thailand who'll get the first board in his country in a couple of weeks.

2. www.drozdmax.com will soon have the boards in stock for those Americans and Canadians who don't like to spend 2-3 weeks waiting for the board to arrive after ordering it from me directly, for those who fear to send money to another country / prefer to pay with PayPal and for those who like the board but prefer someone more qualified to install it.

Here's the link:
http://www.drozdmax.com/chipsets-circuit-boards.html

There are also less expensive alternatives (mod-chip and small mod-board) on this page.



camracer
00:14:42 Tue
Sep 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That is AWESOME Sergey!! A FANTASTIC deal for you!!!

Ray will sell many circuit boards for you, I am 100% sure!

(Shout out to Ray), ...NICE!!

If there is anything I can do to help both of you with sales, let me know! Glad to help, and NO "paybacks" wanted!! :tongue:

---Camracer

P.S. .....Thailand now???! That's sooo cool! Congratulations! The world is shrinking!!! :smash:

radical
07:59:57 Wed
Sep 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
"The Sharks come out at night"-repeat a la the freaks come out at night for your new parts!

Sergey_new_pcb
04:26:11 Sat
Sep 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cool Canadian Blackbird.







camracer
14:03:57 Sun
Sep 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very nice. That is a HUGE display window!

Tbkahuna
16:46:11 Sun
Sep 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It might be HD.

DUBB
22:37:18 Sun
Sep 16 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You wanna see a really cool display?
http://www.lc-led.com/View/itemNumber/353
I didn't even know there was such a thing as a white led numerical display. That is so cool, I wonder how they look? Think of the possibilities with color tinted plastic windows, you could have anything you want, really. I know Sergey can put them on, I personally comissioning a blue display board, I put blue led's in everything, it's my thing. I sent Sergey 10 of those blue displays, btw, that leaves 9 more, if any of you want a blue one, too, now would be the time. 465nm, nice! I think I like the white better, but blue is my thing, so white would defeat the puropse, and nullify the reasoning I used to make an excuse for getting another board done just to change the color of the display. I hate when that happens.

I keep hearing that old 'Stones song in my head: "she comes in colors......"

As an afterthought, here is another link to these guys, since blue and white displays are actually really hard to find.
http://www.lc-led.com/Catalog/department/36/category/51/12

initiator
02:29:13 Sun
Sep 23 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hey, that's my board! Just received this week and have started planning the install. I roached the Drozdmax chip install and just bought Sergey's board instead of getting it fixed.

Joe

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 15:24:29 Sat Sep 1 2012

Russian post has run out of nice blue boxes with their logo so the next three boards will travel to US and Canada marked "Sunglasses". :smile:



I still have to make them 100% manually but this allows for individual marking with customers' initials or whatever instead of serial number. Here's a couple of examples:

An empty board without components.



Assembled, tested and packed in foam for shipping.




camracer
10:40:58 Mon
Sep 24 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Quote: DUBB

I didn't even know there was such a thing as a white led numerical display. That is so cool, I wonder how they look? Think of the possibilities with color tinted plastic windows, you could have anything you want, really.


I was thinking the same thing. If you get a free sample theatrical color gel book like I use, you can make an "infinite" number of different colors!



---Cam


radical
03:18:46 Tue
Sep 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Those for window tinting?

camracer
10:15:31 Tue
Sep 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes sir.

radical
22:49:58 Fri
Sep 28 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Are those tree house windows Foster Grants ;?)

mrhappy55
03:38:45 Tue
Oct 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
hey guys, its been 5 years since ive been on this forum. Does anyone know if Jim C is still making his mods? I have a drozd with his 21" barrel and I need to replace the knurled nut retatiner at the end. Thanks.


radical
06:13:06 Wed
Oct 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: mrhappy55 at 03:38:45 Tue Oct 9 2012

hey guys, its been 5 years since ive been on this forum. Does anyone know if Jim C is still making his mods? I have a drozd with his 21" barrel and I need to replace the knurled nut retatiner at the end. Thanks.


Wasn't Jim now doing contract for Air Gun Depot? Some bb company. Not sure if individual sales are a high priority, but people are still receiving from him. Keep at it.

totalh
17:27:12 Wed
Oct 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Jim is still around, I just talked to him this week. For individual pieces to his barrel kits he can be reached at wiz2972@aol.com

As for him doing contract work for AGD, I am not too sure about that. I know they do sell his barrel kits but then again so do I and I know I don't have a contract with him.

mrhappy55
20:59:10 Wed
Oct 10 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thank you guys. I'll try him at the email address you gave me.

radical
01:52:53 Fri
Oct 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: totalh at 17:27:12 Wed Oct 10 2012

Jim is still around, I just talked to him this week. For individual pieces to his barrel kits he can be reached at wiz2972@aol.com

As for him doing contract work for AGD, I am not too sure about that. I know they do sell his barrel kits but then again so do I and I know I don't have a contract with him.


You know more than I do, totalh. Just speculating on the delays of response from him lately. He's not going anywhere. Im sure he will honor his following here.

Sergey_new_pcb
16:35:04 Mon
Oct 15 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Original Sergey's boards ver.3 are now available in stock in USA along with Ray's mod chips and mod boards.

http://www.drozdmax.com/chipsets-circuit-boards.html

Sergey_new_pcb
14:02:50 Thu
Oct 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m




Relentless
02:39:22 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm glad you posted my pics! To date I am still tuning everything, but there is a undeniable difference between the stock board and Sergey's board. Although I can't seem to feed this new board with enough food (Power) I love it. I am completely satisfied from beginning to end with Sergey's service. He knows what he is talking about and gets back to you with an answer as soon as he can. It was agonizing to wait for the board because I had fried the stock board trying to add peak power.. Dumb!! Anyways I decided to contact Mr. Pismensky and waited impatiently for the upgrade, only to receive more than I expected. He even provided me with the parts and knowledge to fix my damaged stock board. Although I haven't fixed my stock board yet because I was preoccupied installing my long awaited upgrade, I still appreciate the help and guidance from someone whom I don't know and hopefully fix my stock board if I ever need repairs (which I doubt, unless install was wrong or you crossed wires)... I can install these for you if you would like.. Please email me with any requests. You can get my email from Sergey if he is willing to give it out.

Thank you Sergey!!..

camracer
13:46:24 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Relentless, and welcome!

Your photos did not post. Most of us use Photobucket to upload photos here. It's free. Give it a try.

Very nice install of your display window in the photos Sergey posted for you!

What did you do for your control buttons? That looks unusual...

Look forward to seeing your other photos.

---Cam

Relentless
14:56:42 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello camracer, thanks for the Welcome

Hope these show up.

Thanks for the Kudos! The install took some thought and time, mainly not to mess up and have it be ugly or order new parts (if you can).. The buttons are hollow Aluminum tube stock cut to length and bent correctly on the inside to hit the buttons. I am debating on filling them and painting them black, but I am starting to like the metallic look. It's growing on me.

I will take some extreme close ups so the details will be visible.

drozdandconfused
17:15:04 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Another very clean install on the window! Kudos. Glad to see people are "gitten'er done"

camracer
22:46:32 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah! As "DnC" said!!

That's a VERY professional looking install!! .....You a "model builder"?? Looks like you should be! (as I learned my detail skills).

Now we need to add some sort of "button" to the tip of those tubes you used... I would use some custom fit plastic pieces that would fit into those hollow aluminum "buttons" some how.... :tongue: ....You'll get it perfect from the looks of your display window install!!

...Nice! ---Cam

camracer
22:52:23 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
BTW, you need to upload the code for "IMG for bulletin boards & forums" on Photobucket. Then you will have your photo directly posted. You will not see the photo before you post, just a line of code. ...But it'll be here in all it's glory!

We'll help you do it, 'cause we just gotta see it!!

---Cam

Relentless
23:47:01 Fri
Oct 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Another Try! I can install plugs and round them of at the tip but, I'm not sure I want to. I was thinking about Installing led lights in the tubes.. maybe. Just a thought though.. Not sure what I'm going to do. All I know is I want it to look original and hard to replicate! I'm going to see if Sergey will guide me on how to connect these LED's to his board. I'm assuming I should connect them to the Digital Display, but want to make sure! I would like to hear any Ideas you might have no matter how extreme they might sound.









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Thanks for the tip cam. It worked!

Relentless
04:29:20 Sat
Oct 20 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Any thoughts on a white display? I think it would go really well with the clear window. Plus I can add colored polymer sheets if I wanted to change the color. How hard is this to do? I can order the display, but installing it is a different story. I don't want to F*** up the board Sergey sent me. Any tips, warnings, suggestions?

camracer
13:47:47 Sat
Oct 20 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very Nice again Relentless!

First off, that is a really cool idea to make light-up control buttons!! Do it!!! You'll for sure be the first. Very easy to do!

Sergey will tell you where it would be best to hook up the LED's. That is probably how I would do it also (as you suggested), connecting to the circuit that powers the display. There are LED's available that will fit right inside those tubes. There are some that are as tiny as the head of a pin actually! (Google search for "micro LED")

I like the idea of the white display for the fact that you could definitely make it ANY color you want! If you are good with electronics and a soldering iron and careful, you could do it. Only warning I would give is the obvious (or at least it should be) : remove the batteries and discharge the capacitor before you work on your board.

---Cam

DUBB
06:14:38 Sun
Oct 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 13:47:47 Sat Oct 20 2012

Very Nice again Relentless!

First off, that is a really cool idea to make light-up control buttons!! Do it!!! You'll for sure be the first. Very easy to do!

Sergey will tell you where it would be best to hook up the LED's. That is probably how I would do it also (as you suggested), connecting to the circuit that powers the display. There are LED's available that will fit right inside those tubes. There are some that are as tiny as the head of a pin actually! (Google search for "micro LED":wink:

I like the idea of the white display for the fact that you could definitely make it ANY color you want! If you are good with electronics and a soldering iron and careful, you could do it. Only warning I would give is the obvious (or at least it should be) : remove the batteries and discharge the capacitor before you work on your board.

---Cam

Simply turning the switch off discharges the capacitor into that big resistor on the right, rear corner of the board. The switch is an spdt, meaning it connects one to either of the others, and is set up so that the circuit connects to either the power supply, or to ground, by way of that resistor. So switching off discharges the capacitor. As it happens, without this, the capacitor will keep the board powered on even when it is switched off, until the capacitor discharges, and it usually has enough juice to get off a shot or two before it does. Thus, this is an important safety feature.

radical
18:44:54 Mon
Oct 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cool idea! Color identities a useful quick references for info.

Relentless
04:48:44 Sat
Oct 27 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I still can't seem to locate the correct LED's. I found a couple, but not sure. I have about 1 to 3mm to work with. Is there a round or circular led that will fit in the tube?

--Relentless

DUBB
16:34:17 Sat
Oct 27 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You can always rely on Digikey, they have everything.
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/optoelectronics/leds-discrete/524729?k=led

Use the filters, one of the categories is size, as well as shape, color, ect, ect, ect, ect......... if they dont have exactly what you need, it doesnt exist.

I don't know why they have seperate categories for color and wavelength, since they are the same thing. The visable spectrum ranges between 400nm (below that is UV) to 700nm (above is "near" infrared). 450nm is blue, 550nm is green, 650nm is red. Note that green, at 550nm, is right in the middle of the visable spectrum. Therefore green is the color we see the best, and see the most shades of. This is why early crt's, and night vision use green.

camracer
00:01:14 Mon
Oct 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Relentless at 04:48:44 Sat Oct 27 2012

I still can't seem to locate the correct LED's. I found a couple, but not sure. I have about 1 to 3mm to work with. Is there a round or circular led that will fit in the tube?

--Relentless


Yeah, there most certainly is. I haven't done a search, but it shouldn't take you long.

---Cam

DUBB
04:03:59 Wed
Oct 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 00:01:14 Mon Oct 29 2012

Quote: Relentless at 04:48:44 Sat Oct 27 2012

I still can't seem to locate the correct LED's. I found a couple, but not sure. I have about 1 to 3mm to work with. Is there a round or circular led that will fit in the tube?

--Relentless


Yeah, there most certainly is. I haven't done a search, but it shouldn't take you long.

---Cam

Once again, here you go: http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/optoelectronics/leds-discrete/524729?k=led

DUBB
04:23:35 Wed
Oct 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Also, this may help you, pending Sergey's confirmation, but if I am correct, this is the 5v regulator, a 7805, in which case, the pin on the right, as shown here, is the 5v +, the center pin, or the protruding metal tab are ground. This should serve fine as a power supply tap for some 5v led's, or possibly 3, 1.5v led's wired in series, whichever you choose.



Did I get that right, Sergey?



Sergey_new_pcb
04:38:55 Wed
Oct 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB, you're right but if I was adding back-lit buttons, I'd make the button tops of some transparent material like plexiglas and I'd glue three SMD LEDs (1206 sized) on the top of each button. I'd connect these LEDs in series adding a 10-20 kOhm resistor in series with them to limit the current (its value depends on batteries voltage and desired LEDs brightness). Then I'd connect this long circuit in parallel with the big capacitor so it's always lit up when the power is on.

Be careful soldering SMD LEDs -- they are very sensitive to overheating.

DUBB
14:38:25 Wed
Oct 31 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 04:38:55 Wed Oct 31 2012

DUBB, you're right but if I was adding back-lit buttons, I'd make the button tops of some transparent material like plexiglas and I'd glue three SMD LEDs (1206 sized) on the top of each button. I'd connect these LEDs in series adding a 10-20 kOhm resistor in series with them to limit the current (its value depends on batteries voltage and desired LEDs brightness). Then I'd connect this long circuit in parallel with the big capacitor so it's always lit up when the power is on.

Be careful soldering SMD LEDs -- they are very sensitive to overheating.

I think that soldering smd components freehand might be beyond the skills of a lot of us. I know I avoid doing it like the plauge, and I glue the damn things in place before I try, and even then, it's 50-50 if I can actually pull it off or not. Doesn't the 5v regulator put out current as long as the board is powered up?

And I would like to point out, that although I don't know more than I have taught myself about electronics, I don't look at your boards as just neat upgrades for my Drozd, but I have admired mine in great detail, as a work of art, and consider you to be an artist at what you do. This is how I know what is what, I got a lot of insight into how brilliant you really are, just by studying your work. I consider your boards to be a masterpiece of engineering, and things of beauty. Like the way that great art experts study the works of the great masters. I am a fan of your art, and consider practical, working things to be an art form of their own. As a mechanic, I have worked on the greatest mechanical masterpieces of that venue, they are called Ferrari's. I don't know if anyone else would get it, but this happened to come to mind, as one of those cases where when those who have the eye and expertise to recognize a masterpiece when they see one, even when everyone else overlooks it, and all the evidence is against it, it is what it is.
http://video.pbs.org/video/2189483449
Studying your board reminds me of this, and that is why I am skeptical of your new "competition", I mean if there is such a thing. And that reminds me of an old Lamborghini I had occasion to drive, once. It was like driving a farm tractor at 140mph, and after all, that is really what Lamborghini was good at, and appearantly, only good at making: FARM TRACTORS. They nearly broke with their venture into sports cars, which was nothing but a fued between two stubborn old men anyway, and sold out the car division just in time to save themselves. I forsee a similar scenario, and I can't explain, you would just have to be a skilled driver, and drive them both to get it. Where the Ferrari is like dancing the waltz with a skilled ballrom dancer, driving the Lambo was more like Sumo wrestling the thing to keep it going it a straight line. Despite the looks and the price, there is no comparison there at all.

Sergey_new_pcb
11:06:18 Sat
Nov 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m




Dubb, many thanks for the blue displays.

DUBB
21:56:35 Sat
Nov 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I LOVE IT!
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 11:06:18 Sat Nov 3 2012





Dubb, many thanks for the blue displays.


That looks absolutely awsome, can't wait to get it! Time to go dig the red plexiglass out of my reciever........... as you know, red plexiglass will filter out a BLUE display......

camracer
23:09:15 Sat
Nov 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Jees! DUBB said it all!

...all I have to say in a "summed-up" way is .......Ditto! :lol:

---Cam

DUBB
08:19:18 Sun
Nov 4 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Were those any difficult to use in place of your traditional red displays?

Sergey_new_pcb
05:21:14 Mon
Nov 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
No, those parts are 100% compatible with the old ones.

DUBB
11:13:49 Mon
Nov 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 05:21:14 Mon Nov 5 2012

No, those parts are 100% compatible with the old ones.

That's good to know, since I got those right from the source, and they have even those white ones, and I never even knew there was such a thing, much less where to get ahold of them. Those blue ones aren't that easy to come by, either. And we like things that are simple. I was afraid that their pinout would be backwards, or something that would make it complicated. You know how those things can be, so much frustration from the smallest of details overlooked..........

Ever seen what women who drive cars with the fuel necks on the passenger side of their cars willl tend to do at the gas pump? And they keep doing it no matter how long they own the car, for some mysterious reason, even though that hose is never going to do that without a good fight, nor will the cap be on the other side of their cars.

DUBB
15:21:07 Tue
Nov 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This would be a good place to mention that I just had to have a blue display, so I went on the hunt, found a source for compatable parts, got them, and sent them to Sergey to commission my new board, since they have very cool white led displays, too: this is a link to the ones that will work:
http://www.lc-led.com/View/itemNumber/353

The only thing is, it's direct, and they would only sell me a minimum of 10 "samples", but that was not an issue. I mostly point that out, since he has 9 more, now, for limited editions with blue led displays. If anyone thinks that's as cool as I do, and wants one, now would be the time.

And I'm hoping one of you will want a white one enough to do the same, then I'll get one of those, too.

They have red, green, yellow, blue, and white. Any common cathode here will work:
http://www.lc-led.com/Catalog/department/36/category/51/12

DUBB
15:37:49 Tue
Nov 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 11:06:18 Sat Nov 3 2012






What else is there to say, is that cool, or what? OOoooohhh. BLUE.....

camracer
23:36:24 Tue
Nov 6 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah, it is DUBB!!

I'd do a White over the blue although, as I could make it ANY color I want it to be.....

But very cool to see the blue!

......"Firsties"!!!

---Cam

DUBB
14:02:39 Wed
Nov 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Really, I thought you guys would be all over blue displays by now. Perhaps I have underestimated the overall community sense of "cool".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLwaPP9cxT4
THIS is cool. That is an ice cube going red hot, and catching on fire! Is that nuts or what?

I want to build my own induction heater really bad, now.

camracer
23:30:59 Wed
Nov 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It IS cool!! Wanna see yours when you get it done!

As for the ice .......????? :rolleyes:

DUBB
00:51:23 Thu
Nov 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:30:59 Wed Nov 7 2012

It IS cool!! Wanna see yours when you get it done!

As for the ice .......????? :rolleyes:

Hey, that flaming ice cube is one of the coolest things I have ever seen. I never would have believed that if I hadn't seen that. I wanna build an induction heater really bad, now. I might have to go to the ultimate authority on electronic gizmos, and ask Sergey how hard that would be. I'm thinking that it would be fairly simple to do, using line frequency, but how well that works compared to an RF generator is a mystery. I'm thinking that that burning ice cubes will require a higher frequency than 60hz.

camracer
19:12:02 Thu
Nov 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Only way I can see ice "burning" is if it's hydrogen and oxygen were separated. Electrolysis is the only way that can be done, am I wrong?

I'm surprised that there is not a shitload of steam in that video.

DUBB
22:55:31 Thu
Nov 8 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's very possible that some kind of electralysis is going on, I mean it's a magnetic induction heater, high frequency alternating cuuret, high power. The thing can magneticly induce an ice cube to glow red hot, it's probaby ripping a few molecules apart in the process.

camracer
14:16:06 Fri
Nov 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 22:55:31 Thu Nov 8 2012

It's very possible that some kind of electralosis is going on, I mean it's a magnetic induction heater, high frequency alternating cuuret, high power. The thing can magneticly induce an ice cube to glow red hot, it's probaby ripping a few molecules apart in the process.


Uh huh, I could see that.....

It is pretty cool!

---Cam

DUBB
15:28:33 Mon
Nov 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:36:24 Tue Nov 6 2012

Yeah, it is DUBB!!

I'd do a White over the blue although, as I could make it ANY color I want it to be.....

But very cool to see the blue!

......"Firsties"!!!

---Cam

What we need are RGB LED numerical displays....... then they really can be any color you want!

camracer
23:54:53 Mon
Nov 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That would be awesome!

Sergey_new_pcb
16:36:31 Wed
Nov 14 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The second board with blue display is just about to start travelling to Canada.

radical
02:03:33 Sat
Nov 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good to hear Sergey. Have you the link to the bigest Air gun forum? No? LMK and Ill send it to you.

Sergey_new_pcb
08:26:37 Sat
Nov 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Please do.

e-go [you-know-what] inbox [dot] ru

drozddave
21:07:21 Sat
Nov 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I believe that would be my board coming to Canada!!! :smile:

camracer
23:09:07 Sat
Nov 17 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome to the "club"!!!! :tongue:

drozddave
00:08:43 Sun
Nov 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Camracer!!! I must say your videos definitely inspired me to get this gun!! I've had it for a month now and just have to get this mod!!

camracer
13:44:37 Sun
Nov 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 00:08:43 Sun Nov 18 2012

Thanks Camracer!!! I must say your videos definitely inspired me to get this gun!! I've had it for a month now and just have to get this mod!!


Welcome aboard drozddave.
Glad you found some inspiration in my videos.

Lots of great info and great people here!

---Cam

radical
22:05:08 Sun
Nov 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
(2) good accessories to have: 1) a Chrony and 2) a camera with good pics and video. Kodak has a nice one that takes excellent HD video and anywhere fro 89.99 to 119.99.

And welcome.

Rad

drozddave
23:30:37 Sun
Nov 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks guys!
I also just ordered from JimC, the barrel kit, ar-15 stock, and the hpa setup...
Just gotta get a motor now. I'll be sure to take lots of pics of the install.
Have any of you guys found these jameco motors to be reliable? or should i be ordering a bunch?


camracer
23:45:53 Sun
Nov 18 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 23:30:37 Sun Nov 18 2012

Thanks guys!
I also just ordered from JimC, the barrel kit, ar-15 stock, and the hpa setup...
Just gotta get a motor now. I'll be sure to take lots of pics of the install.
Have any of you guys found these jameco motors to be reliable? or should i be ordering a bunch?


....They will NEVER die for the voltage we push them to!

---Cam

drozddave
03:32:24 Mon
Nov 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Do you happen to know which jameco motor is it supposed to be? I cant seem to find the link i found earlier in this thread that brought me right to it...

camracer
14:12:47 Mon
Nov 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Here it is:

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?freeText=nichibo+qjt+motor&langId=-1&storeId=10001&productId=206949&search_type=jamecoall&catalogId=10001&ddkey=http:StoreCatalogDrillDownView


drozddave
21:27:55 Mon
Nov 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks! Motors are ordered. Ok, what else do i need...hahaha...wifes about to lose it with all the ordering "this and "that" lately.
Damn toys gotta be soo fun these days! Where the hell were flying helicopters and drozds etc... when i was 13!! Hahaha

camracer
22:48:51 Mon
Nov 19 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 21:27:55 Mon Nov 19 2012

Thanks! Motors are ordered. Ok, what else do i need...hahaha...wifes about to lose it with all the ordering "this and "that" lately.
Damn toys gotta be soo fun these days! Where the hell were flying helicopters and drozds etc... when i was 13!! Hahaha


NO Shit!! :smash: Had to do well with just rolls of "caps" to hit with a sledgehammer, ....BOOOM!!! :tongue: ....Owwww! that's LOUD!!! :wink:

DUBB
14:18:29 Wed
Nov 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 22:48:51 Mon Nov 19 2012

Quote: drozddave at 21:27:55 Mon Nov 19 2012

Thanks! Motors are ordered. Ok, what else do i need...hahaha...wifes about to lose it with all the ordering &quot;this and &quot;that&quot; lately.
Damn toys gotta be soo fun these days! Where the hell were flying helicopters and drozds etc... when i was 13!! Hahaha


NO Shit!! :smash: Had to do well with just rolls of "caps" to hit with a sledgehammer, ....BOOOM!!! :tongue: ....Owwww! that's LOUD!!! :wink:

Ahhh, you were one of those spoiled kids.... we had to bash our caps with rocks where I grew up.........

drozddave
22:50:01 Thu
Nov 22 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Man, i was spoiled then. I got the capguns too with them, mind you, i swear i still have cap sparks in my eyes.

I'm like a 30 year old kid waiting for all my orders to get here, the anticipation is killing me. If zombie apocalypse happens within the next week im f#@$%^.

I just got some new 3.2v LiFe PO4 AA's at a local retail store the other day, wow what a difference.
I first put 2 3.2V and 4 1.5V into the gun, it hammers the solenoid sooo hard i maybe get 50 shots.
Should i be messing with the solenoid setup prior to getting all my parts? Or should i leave it until after sergeys board and jim c barrels installed?


DUBB
05:04:28 Fri
Nov 23 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 22:50:01 Thu Nov 22 2012

Man, i was spoiled then. I got the capguns too with them, mind you, i swear i still have cap sparks in my eyes.

I'm like a 30 year old kid waiting for all my orders to get here, the anticipation is killing me. If zombie apocalypse happens within the next week im f#@$%^.

I just got some new 3.2v LiFe PO4 AA's at a local retail store the other day, wow what a difference.
I first put 2 3.2V and 4 1.5V into the gun, it hammers the solenoid sooo hard i maybe get 50 shots.
Should i be messing with the solenoid setup prior to getting all my parts? Or should i leave it until after sergeys board and jim c barrels installed?


You shuoldn't have to do anything to the solenoid.

drozddave
23:07:07 Sun
Nov 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Great! Thanks for the advice!!

camracer
23:39:07 Sun
Nov 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 22:50:01 Thu Nov 22 2012

Man, i was spoiled then. I got the capguns too with them, mind you, i swear i still have cap sparks in my eyes.


Remember these?
http://deadwoodantiques.com/store/product232.html

I LOVED those!

$15.00 ???????? WOW!! They don't make those anymore???

$1.99 in the late 70's :rolleyes:

camracer
23:45:05 Sun
Nov 25 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Oh, here they are:
http://www.amazon.com/Schylling-CAB-Cap-Bomb/dp/B000ELT05Q

...Looks like they use those new plastic caps now. Are those paper caps still made??

drozddave
01:58:19 Wed
Nov 28 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ohhh man...wow that just brought back memories i completely forgot about!!! I hit my neighbour right square on his head when we were younger!!! He had to get 2 stitches, but i just remember it being hilarious!!! Not him though...

camracer
01:09:37 Thu
Nov 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 01:58:19 Wed Nov 28 2012

Ohhh man...wow that just brought back memories i completely forgot about!!! I hit my neighbour right square on his head when we were younger!!! He had to get 2 stitches, but i just remember it being hilarious!!! Not him though...


Ya know what, I think I did that too!! :lol:

radical
18:54:01 Thu
Nov 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
When I lived in California, there were no rockets or firecrackers. Had to go to Mexico where you could pert near have dynamit and 50 caliber rifle round sized rockets with LOUD reports. You see these Mexicans holding them then letting go! NO WAY! I have had a large number of them just go kablooey when we set them to launch from the sand or whatever!

drozddave
23:31:38 Thu
Nov 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 18:54:01 Thu Nov 29 2012

When I lived in California, there were no rockets or firecrackers. Had to go to Mexico where you could pert near have dynamit and 50 caliber rifle round sized rockets with LOUD reports. You see these Mexicans holding them then letting go! NO WAY! I have had a large number of them just go kablooey when we set them to launch from the sand or whatever!




He was the rich kid....

drozddave
23:38:42 Thu
Nov 29 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
got my ar stock, tactical and fake suppressor kit for the JimC barrels and my air connector etc....but no barrels yet, theyre lost in the mail i bet...my motors showed up yesterday too...soo now still in wait of a SB3 with blue LCD display, and the rest of my jimc barrels.
Should i throw a motor in now? or wait for it all?
Getting a little antsy here....

drozddave
04:17:44 Sat
Dec 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
SB3 arrived this evening!!! I just got finished installing, and i must say, WOW!!!!!
I am incredibly impressed on the drastic change of my drozd.
As for the blue lcd display.....SOOOO SICK!!! It looks unbelievable!!! For anybody thinking about the all blue look, i will be adding my pictures i took through out the install from my bberry...it was all i had at the moment, i couldnt stop cus, well if you don't know me, i have this problem where i just cant stop when im in "the ZONE".


drozddave
04:32:26 Sat
Dec 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
SB3 Installed.

drozddave
04:35:39 Sat
Dec 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
how come these pics arent uploading? Anybody know how to upload pics?

camracer
15:16:34 Sat
Dec 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Great, Dave! Can't wait to see the photos.

We use Photobucket to upload photos here. It's free. give it a go!

http://beta.photobucket.com/

drozddave
16:54:18 Sat
Dec 1 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I just sent them to DUBB. He can do it for me!!! :biggrin:
I also upgraded the motor lastnight...i thought it would be a simple swap.
I had a few issues but nothing i couldnt handle. Those jameco motors are quite beeefy compared to the stock. But i went well, i never tookk any pics of that as i figured it was gonna be pretty simple. It still was in the grand scheme of things pretty easy. i modified the motor a little so that i wouldnt have to cut away any plastic within the mag itself.
I have a feeling my 2000 rpm is not working properly for the fact that battery voltage is low...waiting on a life PO4 charger at the moment.

DUBB
01:52:02 Sun
Dec 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m



DUBB
01:54:31 Sun
Dec 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m



drozddave
03:22:26 Sun
Dec 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Dubb!

camracer
14:25:58 Sun
Dec 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very nice drozddave!

I really do love the blue display now that I see it!

drozddave
15:34:45 Sun
Dec 2 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Cam!! I really could use those barrels about now...It looks sooo funny with that pee wee stock barrel on it!!! HAHAHAH

radical
02:06:23 Mon
Dec 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
drozddave, i have about 10-15 perfect Crosman 760 barrels if you are interesting in doing the work to put one on your Drozd. Some are rifled as well as smooth. LMK. Glad to help if I can.

drozddave
02:21:09 Mon
Dec 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 02:06:23 Mon Dec 3 2012

drozddave, i have about 10-15 perfect Crosman 760 barrels if you are interesting in doing the work to put one on your Drozd. Some are rifled as well as smooth. LMK. Glad to help if I can.



I do have some ordered from JimC. They are lost in the mail right now. Thanks though!!

drozddave
04:47:53 Mon
Dec 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Question, may have been answered already...I dont really understand what switching between 15 and 24 volts does? Is it only there so that you dont blow your board if you use larger battery power?? is there any real change when using either setting?
I'm just wondering cause my batteries are near dead, and im waiting for new life PO4 batts and a charger...

camracer
14:43:19 Mon
Dec 3 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 04:47:53 Mon Dec 3 2012

Question, may have been answered already...I dont really understand what switching between 15 and 24 volts does? Is it only there so that you dont blow your board if you use larger battery power?? is there any real change when using either setting?
I'm just wondering cause my batteries are near dead, and im waiting for new life PO4 batts and a charger...


If you have a stock motor in your BB mag, you want to keep it on the lower voltage connection. Since you now have the Nichibo motor, go ahead and put it to the full voltage connection. The lower voltage setting limits voltage you choose (up to 24v) to 15v to the motor so that high voltage will not burn out the stock motor. The "full output" setting puts whatever voltage you are using to the motor as well.

drozddave
01:17:01 Tue
Dec 4 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 14:43:19 Mon Dec 3 2012

Quote: drozddave at 04:47:53 Mon Dec 3 2012

Question, may have been answered already...I dont really understand what switching between 15 and 24 volts does? Is it only there so that you dont blow your board if you use larger battery power?? is there any real change when using either setting?
I'm just wondering cause my batteries are near dead, and im waiting for new life PO4 batts and a charger...


If you have a stock motor in your BB mag, you want to keep it on the lower voltage connection. Since you now have the Nichibo motor, go ahead and put it to the full voltage connection. The lower voltage setting limits voltage you choose (up to 24v) to 15v to the motor so that high voltage will not burn out the stock motor. The "full output" setting puts whatever voltage you are using to the motor as well.





Makes sense. I added an internal switch connected to the 3 jumper positions, and used the right side switch on the gun to control the modes...15 or 24.
I guess i just made it easier to go from stock mag to upgraded motor mags in an easy switch out, not to mention the rpm switch works again, as the voltage switch. Makes me feel better from taking it apart and drilling and cutting into it...lol :biggrin:

Not like I will be changing back to a stock mag, but it was a fun mod to add.


camracer
01:24:07 Tue
Dec 4 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah, that's cool! Unnecessary but cool none the less. I was thinking about how I could make those now useless switches useful.....

Good job!

drozddave
04:21:50 Tue
Dec 4 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I can send you the pic of what i took on my phone, not very good, but u can sorta see what i did.


DUBB
03:37:55 Wed
Dec 5 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That Nichibo motor is rated for 9v to 30v, it can take it all, and it can take it all day. The hardest part of finding a good match is the speed. The stock motor is rated for 4000rpm @ 12v. The Nichibo is rated to do 4930rpm @ 12v, so it's about 20% more speed which is about as close as you could get.

drozddave
18:58:56 Fri
Dec 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Jimc barrels arrived on Monday, forgot to post cus ive been soo busy with it!!! They really make the drozd look like a death machine now. Did the tactical setup, but i bought the mix and match kit, so i may try smg tonight after work...
A little bit pissed that the guys i had install my new reg on my new tank, they were supposed to fill it too...my dad picked it up for me or i would have noticed.
Who in their right mind would give back a hpa bottle to a client empty??
I dunno, but to me it seems pretty retarded.


AnotherCanadianDrozd
20:38:55 Fri
Dec 7 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

Wow! So much since my last post!

I know its a long thread, so reply is a little late and sounding off topic, but I am a chronic pain warrior just like many of you.

Messed up lower back/spine brings me much grief and torment on the daily.. Every day is like bipolar madness of dr. jekyl/mr. hide.. Pain, no pain, pain, no pain.

It really is hard on the body, the back and forth. I second that pain meds are really bad for you, but I would not be standing or in a humane mood without them. Sucks to be a slave to big pharma, but worse to be in pain 24/7.

Its hard existence, and I just wish there was more permanent relief. Seems like every pill is just a countdown timer until you dont feel well again. The meds help, but only short term, and they hook you and your wallet for life.

I wish they could solve the root problem instead of just taking care of the symptoms (pain) but as radical and green dots know, lower back or sciatic type pain is the worst. I couldnt stand for a week a few weeks ago, you question whether life is worth living or to take yourself out... and to normal people, yes this just sounds insane, but to repeat the cycle over and over daily, really is a marathon for you to deal with. Problem is, it never ends.. I just wish it would. When you have something make you question whether it is worth living or not, well, I guess for most here, you dont know what that is like, but for other people suffering, you know exactly what Im talking about. Feel bad for others in pain, I know winter and the cold/wet makes me more stiff, muscle tension, and pain, so I hope you all can adjust to the crazy weather swings we experience here in north america.

Sorry, got kinda long and rantish - just know that you arent alone, others feel your pain with much empathy and sympathy and you always got a good core group of forum members here to give support and advice if you really need it.

On another note, replying to all your dreamings of the past and growing up, hell I remember those cap bombs too! I used to think they were like little atom bombs, and I was rainig down on the ants below, hehe... Love them memories...

Its nice to know Im not the only adult kid here out of the bunch of us! We love our toys!!!!! :lol:


Oh, and the blue screens are awesome by the way! I had wanted blue or green a long time ago, then I realized I liked the color contrast of the blue led and the red screen. I had thought hey, maybe keep the led red, if the screen will be red.. but then too much red I think...

And same deal (in my opinion) the other way around, the two blues (lcd screen and led power light) do look good in my opinion, but I would have kept the stock red power light to contrast with the blue lcd, as all red, or all blue is a little too much for me.

Then, I might just be a tiny bit nitpicky, but the blues are a little off, colorwise, the lcd is darker than the led light thats blue, so if they were the same shade, I probably would like it better. I think thats a product of DrozdDave using a tinted or black screen over the blue lcd screen, the blue just ends up being darker more, whereas I found using the black tint over the red lcd screen, the black actually enhances the red color better. And also blocks you from seeing the 000 through it if not powered on, it just goes completely dark or black, like a one way mirror or one way glass. I would like to see a clear screen on top of the blue lcd screen, I have a feeling it would be much brighter and possibly match the lighter sky blue type color of the power indicator led.. But there is no right or wrong, to each there own. Hell, once that RGB or white led display is available for a rainbow assortment of color, we might just see people customizing their drozds with colors, kinda like cell phone protector cases that people love to personalize with.

And relentless, cool buttons man. You definitely will be the first with light up buttons if you do so, please post pics. I am sure itll look awesome.

Hey I know Cripskills was planning on adding another lcd screen, back by the solenoid cover. That was to monitor the current or battery voltage.. Anyone know if he ever did end up finishing that? Or if any pics posted?

Otherwise, if I had a wish for an updated sergey board, it would be with selectable color display, and possibly 1-2 more buttons.... one button you push, it would show or display the current voltage thats left in the battery or running through the gun. The second button, if it could be done, would be a reset button for the counter. And that would only be useful I guess if the board would keep a master counter going, meaning it wouldnt reset to 0 after the power was turned on and off. Just wishful thinking, would be great to know how many shots you get from what air source, etc and how long it lasts, without keeping a continuing tally, whenever you turn on or off your drozd to keep track (if you dont end up shooting a full tank to empty, to basically see what the # of shots you would get off would be... thats basically what it would help you determine easier...

As with Dubb and what he said about the SB3 being a working masterpiece of art, it truly is, and I am not trying to reinvent the wheel, or cause headache for Sergey at all, these are just comments which may resonate with your opinion as well. But as they say, if it aint broke, don't fix it really holds true in this case. What Sergey has already done is monumental in the evolution of the Drozd bb gun.
Great job Sergey!

Love the pics Relentless, good job DrozdDave, and thanks to everyone to the ongoing discussions, I love visiting this forum and seeing whats up or new!



radical
06:42:43 Sun
Dec 9 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Best RANT Ive read in a very long time. Rants are just as much as any other statement one wishes to post. We all will read and we all with chip in our cents.

drozddave
02:56:49 Tue
Dec 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Had AnotherCanadianDrozd over and we upgraded his motor in his mag. Went smoothly.
Must say, I love Sergeys board with HPA!!! Amazing!!!
Zombie Apocalypse...im ready!!!

AnotherCanadianDrozd
08:13:57 Tue
Dec 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yep! Up til about 2:30 in the morning, three of us, blasting away at Shoot'N'C targets! His wife was upstairs sleeping, she was all groggy heard the shooting, but in lala land, so we didnt get in trouble! Hehehe

I had a chance to check out JimC's handiwork in terms of his barrels and sleeve covers, they are SO nicely made! WOW. I know what my Drozd is getting next, now that my Nichibo is installed finally! I need HPA and mix and match barrel kits... ASAP! OR next spring, whichever comes first.

And I FQ$%!(!@ it up royally the install haha, I keep grinding down the motor shaft too much, less and less, and even less, thank god DrozdDave bought 9 extra motors!

But thankfully, he stepped in, on his grinder in his workshop and straightened things out, with some crazy insane glue with some sprinkle magic pixie dust.. dont ask.. or if you do, ask Drozd Dave! Some $50 space glue astronauts use in space or something technically advanced like that lol... anyways, got my gear wheel placed back on and the magic dust filled in the cracks and the glue to harden it all like expoxy and so far so good... will let you know if I have any problems in the future but it seems to be aligned just fine right now.

Also added a spacer using a washer above the motor, just to angle it slightly more towards the gear teeth so it bites deeper or better. Without the washer added, the clutch was going off or seizing. It seems adding a small washer just above the motor to give it some angle support, fixed everything up in both of our blackbird magazines, in both our mods. Just seems to work better for some reason, and also with the gear wheel pressed down much lower on the shaft.

DrozdDave as well, pretapped the screw holes for me in the Nichibo, and reorienting it by 90 degrees rotation, so the two solder pins, or motor contacts that stick out basically clear the screw housings in the magazine frame assembly.

I think if you dont do this, you need to do some plastic grinding to get the larger nichibo motor to fit inside. As well, the motor shaft axle pin whatever you wanna call it the part that spins lol is much longer on the upgrade motor. I thought you would have to cut it down to size, but its better you dont in case you bungle things up like I did at late night.

And really, with the motor turned 90 degrees, tapping out 2 of the 4 round holes in the motor casing, you dont need to do any plastic grinding or shaving at all. Even the motor mount plate, we were able to just nudge in the gear wheel already mounted on the motor axle, just pushed through at an angle, then used the two stock screws, without washers, to attach the new bigger nichibo motor in the same stock hole slots with the stock motor screws. Those screws are short though, so remove the washers or remember to once you switch to the Nichibo, itll make your life much easier.



Also, note that the the axle diameter of the motor shaft is much bigger than stock, and the stock is keyed cut with a flat side, you will need to take it to a grinder in order to get it to fit on the stock motor axle correctly.

Or thats the way DrozdDave discovered to do it, and thats how we did mine too, but another way you could do it, but if you do, please ensure you are correctly on center if you do do it this way, and that method is to basically heat up the motor shaft of the nichibo motor and basically press fit the gear wheel onto it, by heat. Your almost melting the gear wheel on when you do this, you dont want the metal axle too hot when you put it on, or else, the plastic will heat up too much, itll wiggle and possible go off line or off center, you just want it warm enough to press fit through the existing motor hole, the heat basically just widens the hole enough to push through, and then it hardens and cools to shape on it. Remember to still grind a flat keyed area, so the motor axle wont strip out over time with the gear wheel stripped out from a round axle, key it flat like stock by grinding, then it will never twist inside the plastic gear wheel.

Also, remember to check polarity of everything before putting back together, it does matter! Your spring coil could wind backwards which will not feed bbs up the feeding ramp. This happened to Dave, and to me too, except we had the clarity and knowledge to troubleshoot the second time around for mine, while he had the fun of figuring it with multiple assembly/disassembly.

So anyone who gets a sergey board upgrade, buy this motor too, you wont be sorry. And, if you can install the board, then you can install this motor. Its pretty simple with just a little soldering and some grinding.

Speaking from experience, since I dont have a grinder, using daves was a bit of a learning experience to get the feel for it. I tested the feel on my motor axle, though I reccomend maybe trying on a small finishing nail or even paperclip on the grinder first. If you can practice grinding in on 4 sides to reduce the diameter, it will surely help when you do your motor.... I kept hitting mine at more than 90 degrees so I kept on adjusting more and more, ending up with less and less axle.... remember.. go slow... and use a piece of wood or petal as a push stick or guide rod.. makes it much more precise and controlled.

I didnt take pics, not sure if Dave did, but if so, post some up for the folks!

Another of our group, Dakuan (not a member, on the forums, yet) also came up to visit with his Drozd, but his is stock, and we did not get a chance to install his nichibo. He still needs a Sergey board though, as do two of our other friends who own Classic and Blackbirds too.

Well most the things I need now are just slap on aftermarket parts I think.. its time to think about getting off the pesky silly aa batteries and wiring up a drill battery instead! The drozd quest continues... doesnt it, for all of us?

camracer
15:25:48 Tue
Dec 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice work ACD! The motor install really isn't as complicated as you make it sound. But you did bring up some points that everyone will need to address installing the Nichibo.

Here's my install I originally posted. All I needed to do was grind the screw post as shown here a bit:


Then reposition the electrical connector out of the way that you see in this photo:


The motor fit right into perfect position for me (I've done this twice with two of my mags).

Quote: ACD

I think if you dont do this, you need to do some plastic grinding to get the larger nichibo motor to fit inside. As well, the motor shaft axle pin whatever you wanna call it the part that spins lol is much longer on the upgrade motor. I thought you would have to cut it down to size, but its better you dont in case you bungle things up like I did at late night.


No need to cut the shaft. Also I would NOT recommend heating the output shaft to set your pinion gear. Heating the shaft could melt the output shaft's plastic bearing just inside the casing.

Best thing to do is drill out the pinion gear's hole to just slightly smaller than the Nichibo's shaft and press the gear onto the shaft. I did this a 1/4" socket as the press tool (I actually tapped the gear on this way with a small hammer). Mine are pressed on firmly enough that if I tried to hold the gear in my fingers and start the motor, it might take the skin off my fingers before it could slip!

A very good point about the polarity. I know very well what I am doing with my mags. I'm an expert on how they work. ...But I did carelessly make that mistake before!
It gives you a WTF moment when you start it up for the first time!!:lol:

I'm sure we would all love to see what you did inside ACD.
Why don't you or Dave post some photos!

Anything at all you need help with, we'll be glad to help! ...like usual.

---Cam

drozddave
23:29:24 Tue
Dec 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cam, send me an email in a pm, i will take mine apart...(for the 100th time) and take some pics, send them to you tonight to help out anyone else who wants to do it and has no access to a dremel. I do, but I like to keep everything the "way" it was.

Its pretty easy to drill and tap the motor holes to re-align the connectors closer to the edge inside the mag and the outer edge.
I also found that, this way, when putting the mag back together, it was much easier to get the screw that tightens the mag together back in.
The Nichibo motor is "fatter" than the stock motor, so the more room you have, and no wire to obstruct your path....the easier the mag is to get back together.


drozddave
23:37:20 Tue
Dec 11 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
By the way, I havent had to adjust the clutch on mine whatsoever....it works like a champ!!! It just took a washer...for some reason...reason still unknown, wedged between the inner side wall and the motor to have no issues with the sprockets binding as they were before...very weird..neways it worked for both mine and ACD...so who knows??
I think actually ACD is correct in that its keeping tight up to the next sprocket with no slip room. Maybe these motors work well under pressure!!! :rotflmao:
No pun intended

freeman34
03:27:04 Wed
Dec 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
what's this "space glue" that canadians talking about?

Quote: drozddave at 23:37:20 Tue Dec 11 2012

By the way, I havent had to adjust the clutch on mine whatsoever....it works like a champ!!! It just took a washer...for some reason...reason still unknown, wedged between the inner side wall and the motor to have no issues with the sprockets binding as they were before...very weird..neways it worked for both mine and ACD...so who knows??
I think actually ACD is correct in that its keeping tight up to the next sprocket with no slip room. Maybe these motors work well under pressure!!! :rotflmao:
No pun intended


drozddave
04:13:17 Wed
Dec 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: freeman34 at 03:27:04 Wed Dec 12 2012

what's this "space glue" that canadians talking about?

Quote: drozddave at 23:37:20 Tue Dec 11 2012

By the way, I havent had to adjust the clutch on mine whatsoever....it works like a champ!!! It just took a washer...for some reason...reason still unknown, wedged between the inner side wall and the motor to have no issues with the sprockets binding as they were before...very weird..neways it worked for both mine and ACD...so who knows??
I think actually ACD is correct in that its keeping tight up to the next sprocket with no slip room. Maybe these motors work well under pressure!!! :rotflmao:
No pun intended





Its Called "The Last Glue"
I found it at one of those booths at a bike show. I never usually buy things from those silly stands, but this guy and his Crazy glue intrigued me a little. Well its been a few yrs now, and i still have some.
It also came with this "pixie dust" called The Last Fill...it basically gets sprinkled over the glue if you need to repair holes, cracks, re-bond....and it dries instantly.
You can sand it, paint etc...
I must admit, it was pricey..50 bucks. But the value was there. I prob wont need to buy anymore for a while still. Im sure i would have spent that easily in stupid tubes of crazy glue that barely even works.
The trick to "The Last Glue" and bonding things is the less you use the better. And the area needs to be clean but somewhat roughened up.

freeman34
04:53:03 Wed
Dec 12 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I googled it, that shit is impressive. It bonds as soon as it's deprived of oxygen...


but at $50 a bottle, i'll just stick with my contact cements and epoxies, lol

camracer
00:40:21 Thu
Dec 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: drozddave at 23:37:20 Tue Dec 11 2012

By the way, I havent had to adjust the clutch on mine whatsoever....it works like a champ!!!
No pun intended


I don't recommend you mess with the clutch (that part with the friction plate and spring/adjustment nut). Unless you really know what it does and how to adjust it. If you tighten it too much, you will put too much strain on the motor, too little and it will not feed bb's efficiently.

The clutch is there to "save" the motor. When the bb feed is full, the motor should still spin the gears until the "timing" is done. It really isn't "rocket science". Although, it needs to be tight enough to feed, but slippy enough to allow the motor to spin when the feed is "full". Do NOT lube it! I'd suggest you leave it be.

---Cam

drozddave
01:33:51 Thu
Dec 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 00:40:21 Thu Dec 13 2012

Quote: drozddave at 23:37:20 Tue Dec 11 2012

By the way, I havent had to adjust the clutch on mine whatsoever....it works like a champ!!!
No pun intended


I don't recommend you mess with the clutch (that part with the friction plate and spring/adjustment nut). Unless you really know what it does and how to adjust it. If you tighten it too much, you will put too much strain on the motor, too little and it will not feed bb's efficiently.

The clutch is there to "save" the motor. When the bb feed is full, the motor should still spin the gears until the "timing" is done. It really isn't "rocket science". Although, it needs to be tight enough to feed, but slippy enough to allow the motor to spin when the feed is "full". Do NOT lube it! I'd suggest you leave it be.

---Cam

Yaaa I wouldn't recommend it either. Theres no real change happening with that side of things anyways. It worked before, should work after.
But both ACD and I had binding issues after the Nichibo motor was installed.
I would suggest messing around with how you mounted the new motor if your having troubles...rather than messing with that clutch.

DUBB
03:49:51 Thu
Dec 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 15:25:48 Tue Dec 11 2012

Nice work ACD! The motor install really isn't as complicated as you make it sound. But you did bring up some points that everyone will need to address installing the Nichibo.

Here's my install I originally posted. All I needed to do was grind the screw post as shown here a bit:


Then reposition the electrical connector out of the way that you see in this photo:


The motor fit right into perfect position for me (I've done this twice with two of my mags).

Quote: ACD

I think if you dont do this, you need to do some plastic grinding to get the larger nichibo motor to fit inside. As well, the motor shaft axle pin whatever you wanna call it the part that spins lol is much longer on the upgrade motor. I thought you would have to cut it down to size, but its better you dont in case you bungle things up like I did at late night.


No need to cut the shaft. Also I would NOT recommend heating the output shaft to set your pinion gear. Heating the shaft could melt the output shaft's plastic bearing just inside the casing.

Best thing to do is drill out the pinion gear's hole to just slightly smaller than the Nichibo's shaft and press the gear onto the shaft. I did this a 1/4" socket as the press tool (I actually tapped the gear on this way with a small hammer). Mine are pressed on firmly enough that if I tried to hold the gear in my fingers and start the motor, it might take the skin off my fingers before it could slip!

A very good point about the polarity. I know very well what I am doing with my mags. I'm an expert on how they work. ...But I did carelessly make that mistake before!
It gives you a WTF moment when you start it up for the first time!!:lol:

I'm sure we would all love to see what you did inside ACD.
Why don't you or Dave post some photos!

Anything at all you need help with, we'll be glad to help! ...like usual.

---Cam

I didn't need to chop the pillar, I drilled out the hole in the mounting plate, so that the nose extention part of the motor would fit, and the motor bolted on flush. I did have to cut down the output shaft of the motor, though. I had to shim the motor, just a bit, since it seemed to make the pinion gear a bit too tight, otherwise.

camracer
14:36:00 Thu
Dec 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah that IS a good idea DUBB.

I think my way might be quicker to install?? Maybe not. I have a new BB mag I have yet to put the Nichibo motor into. I'll try your method to compare.

---Cam

DUBB
15:04:33 Thu
Dec 13 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 14:36:00 Thu Dec 13 2012

Yeah that IS a good idea DUBB.

I think my way might be quicker to install?? Maybe not. I have a new BB mag I have yet to put the Nichibo motor into. I'll try your method to compare.

---Cam

I bought a 10mm, and a 12mm drill bit, I know I used one of those to make super quick work of it when I did GD's mag for him. It sure was a lot less trouble than enlarging the hole with my dremmel tool, like I did when I did mine. "Like buttuh..."

Also: I used an ordinary table fork to remove the pinion from the original motor, I just slipped the middle tines under the pinion, and pried it off. To set the pinion on the new motor, I opened up my vise really wide, held the pinion on the end of the shaft, with the whole thing in the vise, and gave it a squeeze. It pressed right on. I think the original one was glued with something, but the fit to the new shaft was plenty tight that it required no glue, or anything. Hell, I had to press it on in my vise. I cut the shaft down with my dremmel tool, but another way that might do it is to connect the motor to a power supply, and run it, then put a hacksaw blade or maybe the edge of a file to it, and let the motor cut it's own shaft. I took some time when I did mine, but I did GD's, the second one I did, in just a few minutes, really. It was short work the second time I did it. I'm sure I can do it in 30 minutes, now. The fork is a really good trick, as the pinion is a bitch to remove, and the fork made it really easy, slide it in, and pry it up. The fork will make contact with the pinion on 3 sides, and can't slip, or anything. You might have to do it in 2 moves, the second requiring that something be placed between the fork and the motor, to get it to lift the pinion high enough to clear off the shaft. You would do that opposite of the fork's handle.

DUBB
23:52:25 Thu
Dec 20 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I sure as hell am a crappy photographer. Well, I geuss I can't expect to be perfect at everything, all the time. But here is how mine looks, now.




The blueboard is awsome, couldn't be more pleased with it. The blue display doesn't put out as many lumens as the red ones do, it's not as bright as the blue power led, either, but goes with it very nicely. The blue display doesn't say "HERE I AM" like the red ones do at all. It's discreet. And that is a clear plexi window.

camracer
17:06:45 Fri
Dec 21 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very cool DUBB!

As for the red display, I'm sure you of all people (military) know why red filters on flashlights are used for tactical reasons??

Well anyway, blue, red, purple, green... filters can be added to reduce brightness for tactical reasons I guess.

radical
17:18:38 Wed
Dec 26 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Dubb, looks good. Better than the elder pics I remember.

DUBB
02:14:09 Thu
Dec 27 2012
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I absolutely love my "blue board", that was well worth the effort. Big thanks again, to Sergey, for so graciously accomidating my request. I don't know if he still has any more blue displays, or if he will come into any more in the future. I bought those myself, and sent them to him. I got a "sample" minimum of 10 pieces, from the distributor, to get those blue displays. Get while the getting is good.

Sergey_new_pcb
17:45:41 Mon
Jan 21 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good news for those who fear to send money to another continent for someone they don't know personally.

I'm making another batch of boards for Ray, you'll be able to buy them at www.drozdmax.com soon.

Mickael
19:18:29 Mon
Jan 21 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi Sergey

Do you know when he is getting them, perhaps this week or next? He told me about 3 weeks and that was almost 2 weeks ago ..

Also what is the exact max voltage limit on your pcb boards?

drozddave
22:20:05 Mon
Jan 21 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Mickael at 19:18:29 Mon Jan 21 2013

Hi Sergey

Do you know when he is getting them, perhaps this week or next? He told me about 3 weeks and that was almost 2 weeks ago ..

Also what is the exact max voltage limit on your pcb boards?


24V

camracer
23:30:44 Mon
Jan 21 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:45:41 Mon Jan 21 2013

Good news for those who fear to send money to another continent for someone they don't know personally.

I'm making another batch of boards for Ray, you'll be able to buy them at www.drozdmax.com soon.


Excellent Sergey!! Good for you, .......and ALL of us!!

Ray is great to deal with here everyone. ...My endorsement.

I love this forum! :tongue:

---Cam

drozddave
22:23:42 Tue
Jan 22 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 23:30:44 Mon Jan 21 2013

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:45:41 Mon Jan 21 2013

Good news for those who fear to send money to another continent for someone they don't know personally.

I'm making another batch of boards for Ray, you'll be able to buy them at www.drozdmax.com soon.


Excellent Sergey!! Good for you, .......and ALL of us!!

Ray is great to deal with here everyone. ...My endorsement.

I love this forum! :tongue:

---Cam

Don't forget, soo is Sergey! If any of you are hesitant about sending money orders, i'll vouch for Sergey in saying he's very trustworthy too!!

radical
03:33:40 Thu
Jan 24 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thats a great idea that will facilitate your time, build customer confidence and give you more time to work on other projects. My hats off! Thank god thats all right now :?P

DUBB
05:30:31 Thu
Jan 24 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:45:41 Mon Jan 21 2013

Good news for those who fear to send money to another continent for someone they don't know personally.

I'm making another batch of boards for Ray, you'll be able to buy them at www.drozdmax.com soon.

Or those who just don't want to wait on shipping.

Sergey_new_pcb
11:53:17 Sun
Jan 27 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Gentlenem.

OK, the boards are sent, Ray will get them in 2-3 weeks.

camracer
15:08:17 Sun
Jan 27 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's real good news!

DUBB
02:27:49 Mon
Jan 28 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It should take 2 weeks, or maybe a day or two less. That's one advantage to buying from Ray, it won't take nearly as long, 2 or 3 days, tops. It's a big planet, after all.

Sergey_new_pcb
22:17:28 Thu
Jan 31 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Belgium is with us now :smile:

camracer
00:54:41 Fri
Feb 1 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome Belgium!! .....hey! that rhymes!!! :lol:

radical
08:29:05 Sat
Feb 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ari Ari Mahn, welcome Belgique!

Sergey_new_pcb
02:44:46 Sun
Feb 10 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Three years!!! (http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=2174&postnum=450 -- note the date it was posted).

Congratulations to all regular visitors and boards owners. Thank you.

SONYtec
03:25:36 Sun
Feb 10 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Wow, three yeaars, darn time flies by.

Congrats Sergey!!!

motrdyd
03:29:39 Mon
Feb 11 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
hey all
i think its time to upgrade sergeyboards.com hes a super busy guy so i need your help to give me the new specs to his boards and any other info i might need k like some new pics and youtube links or should i make a new thread for info any hel will be greatly appreciated

DUBB
14:14:12 Mon
Feb 11 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It can take up to 24vdc, it has adjustable rate, from 400rpm to 2000rpm, in 200rpm increments, and it has an adjustable pulse duration, or dwell, and it has an adjustable burst, from single shot, up to 10rd, and full auto.

camracer
18:02:42 Mon
Feb 11 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 02:44:46 Sun Feb 10 2013

Three years!!! (http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=2174&postnum=450 -- note the date it was posted).

Congratulations to all regular visitors and boards owners. Thank you.


Lets keep it rocking folks!!!



radical
08:11:06 Tue
Feb 12 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Big HELLLL YEAH!!







DUBB
03:32:36 Wed
Feb 13 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m




motrdyd
04:42:55 Fri
Feb 15 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 14:14:12 Mon Feb 11 2013

It can take up to 24vdc, it has adjustable rate, from 400rpm to 2000rpm, in 200rpm increments, and it has an adjustable pulse duration, or dwell, and it has an adjustable burst, from single shot, up to 10rd, and full auto.



Cool will do and will do a 3 year thing

Sergey_new_pcb
20:15:38 Mon
Feb 25 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Another new country! Three boards are on the way to Spain.

camracer
14:49:15 Tue
Feb 26 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m


radical
19:57:33 Wed
Feb 27 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Soon you'll be having to hire a few of us on the board to relocate to Russia to help you keep up with the demand! Ahhh, Ruski Vimmen!

Sergey_new_pcb
11:05:41 Wed
Mar 6 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm going to Moscow for a week or two so in case you were going to send me the money for the board just wait till I come back. I'll notify everyone when I'm ready to proceed with the boards.

radical
02:33:19 Fri
Mar 8 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hope you have a nice getaway. Even if its business, finds some Vodka and a Ruski beauty for each side! Careful though. You will spend your money FAST!

Sergey_new_pcb
08:08:47 Wed
Mar 13 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
OK, I'm back to my home town. Ready to get back to work.

Sergey_new_pcb
20:00:30 Sun
Mar 31 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Happy 1st of April.

camracer
22:29:55 Mon
Apr 1 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Snow all gone over there Sergey??

Small amounts left here. ....almost spring!! :tongue:

---Cam

radical
00:28:04 Tue
Apr 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Were supposed to get rain to snow SUN-NON but nada. Just sun, no wind and 50's.

Sergey_new_pcb
01:38:40 Tue
Apr 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: camracer at 22:29:55 Mon Apr 1 2013

Snow all gone over there Sergey??

Small amounts left here. ....almost spring!! :tongue:

---Cam


Still lots of wet snow everywhere and awful roads with many pits and deep cracks across lanes. Spring weather kills asphalt but makes government-affiliated companies feel happy calculating future profit. My driver licence expired 4 years ago and I decided not to prolongate it.

camracer
10:39:53 Tue
Apr 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah, winter sucks!! It's supposed to already be pushing 60 degrees here! A real crappy start to the season.

Tbkahuna
11:16:17 Tue
Apr 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I don't miss the cold! We have already been to about 90.

camracer
23:58:33 Tue
Apr 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ahhhh 90 degrees! That sounds great. You can always get a bit cooler with a quick "spritz" of the garden hose! .....and a cooold beeer!!!!

....mmmmmmmmmnnnnn!!

radical
02:41:58 Wed
Apr 3 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
HELL is = Summer with out beer!

green_dots
03:59:43 Wed
Apr 3 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
We had a beer strike a long time ago.It was 1966.The selling of beer is the provincal government.It lasted about 8 weeks,all of July and most of August.It was a very hot summer without beer.My father saw it coming and made about 60 bottles.My mother and father went away overnite.My brother and about 7 friends swooped down and drank all the beer.My father went crazy, when he realized all the beer was gone.He kicked my brother out of the house for two weeks.Towords the end of the strike people travelled to Buffaol USA and Quebec bringing has much beer they could smuggle across.GD.

camracer
22:33:14 Wed
Apr 3 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
:lol: I still think we need a "GreenDots" "Story of the Week" thread!! I'd be riveted!! ...You all would be too!!

When you writing your book GD?? That's one I'll read. And I have barely picked up a novel in the last 30 years!! Last time was to see if it had "pictures"! .......What a great comic book. :rotflmao:

---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
15:28:37 Mon
Apr 8 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Italy!

camracer
00:47:55 Tue
Apr 9 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Wow! ....how many "corners" are left in the world Sergey???!

Very cool! Good for you.

---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
15:33:41 Fri
Apr 12 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome Sweden.

Mavve
17:09:02 Fri
Apr 12 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That could be me, if that board was sent to drozdmax. :smile: hope it is cause that would mean i'm the only one the entire country running Sergey's board. Would be kinda cool. :smile:

Sergey_new_pcb
05:51:50 Tue
Apr 16 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Mavve, I hope you won't be upset too much, I sent it directly to Sweden so there will be at least two men with the new boards soon. You have a "collegue" somewhere near you.

camracer
10:22:16 Tue
Apr 16 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Awesome!

radical
18:51:09 Wed
Apr 17 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Very cool Serge! We have to mark at some point an official "birthdate" with how many sold. Got the first Euro in a frame?

Sergey_new_pcb
01:38:41 Sat
Apr 20 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 18:51:09 Wed Apr 17 2013

Got the first Euro in a frame?


Hello Radical.

Nope, they (Western Union) deals only with US dollars. My customers can pay with any currency but WU will convert it to dollars and when I receive the money here in Russia I have a choice between dollars and Russian roubles.

But I'm happy with the fact the boards gain more popularity in Europe. 90% of boards go to US and Canada so European countries are still very "exotic" for me.

radical
04:54:16 Sun
Apr 21 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Have you had issues with your local authorities with your commerce or do they only tax the larger operations?

Sergey_new_pcb
10:00:07 Wed
May 1 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sorry for being quiet.

If there brains inside their heads they understand they should support me by all means and protect me from any troubles.

radical
21:27:42 Wed
May 1 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thats good to hear, Sergey. All the best to you.

Sergey_new_pcb
10:47:22 Thu
May 23 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Some good news. I have an assistant now so we can make boards a bit faster. The quality is, of course, still very high.

DUBB
09:07:03 Fri
May 24 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 10:00:07 Wed May 1 2013

Sorry for being quiet.

If there brains inside their heads they understand they should support me by all means and protect me from any troubles.


Well I don't know how they do things in Russia, but here in the US, public officials aren't really elected, hired, or even known for their brains. It's usually about connections and money.

radical
06:32:30 Sat
May 25 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good to hear Serge that you have some help. Give you more time to think about other projects. Im going to order one of your latest boards when Camracer comes to town. I still need to get a Black Bird! I can afford it just that it costs as much as I could put the money into a real gun and sell it for a nice profit. When the time is right.

DUBB
07:48:45 Sat
May 25 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 06:32:30 Sat May 25 2013

Good to hear Serge that you have some help. Give you more time to think about other projects. Im going to order one of your latest boards when Camracer comes to town. I still need to get a Black Bird! I can afford it just that it costs as much as I could put the money into a real gun and sell it for a nice profit. When the time is right.

"Sell" a "real" gun? Blasphemy!

radical
04:58:15 Wed
May 29 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
DUBB, honestly, I'm starting to feel like a 2nd Amendment HOARDER!

DUBB
12:49:56 Wed
May 29 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: radical at 04:58:15 Wed May 29 2013

DUBB, honestly, I'm starting to feel like a 2nd Amendment HOARDER!

Now let's not have any more of that anti-gun proliferation talk, or we'll have to put the leeches on you again.

camracer
00:01:30 Thu
May 30 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Heh!

Leeches can cure cancer.... at least that is what my witch-doctor said.

radical
02:15:18 Thu
May 30 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
They saved my nephews finger. Lost it playing monkey on the boat winch. Then the IQ .05 kid decides to turn it on!

camracer
21:41:31 Thu
May 30 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Oww!!

radical
07:57:57 Sat
Jun 1 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I believe my nephew had a few more creative expletives to add to that comment.

DUBB
17:45:05 Sun
Jun 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I took most of my right thumbnail off, all the way down to the bone, sharpening a ninja throwing star to take to school on my old man's bench grinder. A talented surgeon ("Max the Plastic Man) who happened to be roommates with my childhood athsma doctor (Doctor John), grafted in enough skin to fill the hole, but i still only have segments of nail growing on that thumb. I went to my regular family care doctor, first (the very attractive Dr Susan), and she sent me to Max the Plastic Man. This was possible, because I had introduced Dr John to Dr Susan, some time before, they had offices in the same building, but had never met. Appearantly, it was love at first sight, and eventually Dr Susan became Mrs Dr John. It's funny, since the had managed not to run into each other for about 5 years in the same building. Go figure.

green_dots
21:09:19 Sun
Jun 2 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey,I need you to respond to my SKYPE message. GD

Sergey_new_pcb
04:29:54 Mon
Jun 3 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sorry. Will do it this Monday.

Sergey_new_pcb
11:59:59 Sun
Jun 30 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello everyone.

Some good news. First, France has just joined the club. Congratulations!

Second, another batch of boards is on the way to Ray so www.drozdmax.com will soon have them in stock. Those boards are still assembled by hand but instead of green soldering mask (necessary for automated soldering) I use transparent moisture-protective varnish. So, the boards I send to Ray (including two previous shipments) and individual customers look like this:





Isn't she loooovely? :smile:

Also, let me remind you how to mount button caps I send along with each board.



Colors designate:
Black -- plastic foregrip
Gray -- button-cap
Blue -- flexible plastic film
Yellow -- glue

How to contact me:
E-mail: e-go[you-know-what]inbox[dot]ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800.

motrdyd
14:43:11 Mon
Sep 9 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
hey all
havent been around for awhile how does the jumper on sergey board work again if it in the front spot and the back spot hope everybody good and dubbs finger gets better


thanks
motrdyd

camracer
22:30:02 Thu
Sep 12 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The position closer to the LED display limits voltage to 15v. The other position will give you FULL battery voltage (whatever you may put into it) to the mag motor.

motrdyd
21:24:16 Tue
Sep 17 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
thanks cam
thats how i have it to the front of gun what is the max volts u can run on the upgraded mag motor just the mag not gun i run 2 battery packs


thanks
motrdyd

camracer
18:45:21 Thu
Sep 19 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: motrdyd at 21:24:16 Tue Sep 17 2013

thanks cam
thats how i have it to the front of gun what is the max volts u can run on the upgraded mag motor just the mag not gun i run 2 battery packs


thanks
motrdyd


The replacement motor (Nichibo QJT) is rated to 30v. More than you'll ever put into the gun.

Sergey_new_pcb
16:46:50 Sat
Oct 26 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Let me remind you what the purpose of the jumper on the board is. You can run your Blackbird in three different modes.

1. Like-it's-never-been-modified (when your batteries voltage is around 9 volts and 15 V mag motor voltage regulator is bypassed).

2. Safe mode (when your batteries voltage is up to 24 volts but mag voltage is limited at 15 volts to avoid damaging stock Blackbird mag motor).

3. Wild mode (when you don't care about mag motor lifespan or have replaced it with Nichibo part mentioned earlier).

ninjagame
11:21:39 Tue
Oct 29 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Is the Nichibo mag motor what Ray offers as the 'upgraded motor'?

Thanks ahead

DUBB
02:26:19 Thu
Nov 14 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: ninjagame at 11:21:39 Tue Oct 29 2013

Is the Nichibo mag motor what Ray offers as the 'upgraded motor'?

Thanks ahead

Yes, Ray has the right motors, and can install them, too.

ninjagame
04:51:38 Wed
Nov 20 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks dubb

DUBB
23:31:39 Sat
Nov 23 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Mine runs so strong that I have a toggle switch on the jumper pins, and I ground one of the eccentric lobes off the edge of the slip disc to slow the bb shaker down to a reasonable speed.

Sergey_new_pcb
19:56:20 Fri
Dec 13 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Some good news from this side of the pond. PayPal now allowes Russians to receive money too (spending money was never restricted) so I FINALLY have my own PayPal account. It'll make sending funds easier and cheaper.

George from NC, I'm sending your board tomorrow.

camracer
17:54:10 Wed
Dec 18 2013
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's great news Sergey!



Sergey_new_pcb
23:45:06 Tue
Feb 18 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello everyone.

It's been a while since I posted to this thread and I'm glad to be here again.

Gentlemen, I need your opinion.

I receive messages from time to time in which Drozd/Blackbird owners ask for voltmeter to check batteries condition. Each time I receive a message like this I need to explain that this task cannot be done with "just a voltmeter". It's because the current drawn by Drozd/Blackbird is not smooth. It's graph looks like saw teeth. Conventional voltmeters demand that voltage remains stable for at least 1/3rd of a second to measure it precisely.

In order to prevent your batteries from over-discharging we need a comparator or digital-to-analog converter (DAC) fast enough to register short but deep voltage drops observed at the peak current consumption moments. Then, I think we don't need any display because when you're not shooting the battery isn't loaded, it'll be even worse to watch some display while shooting. I think we need to use a buzzer instead of a display.

We also need some hardware/software to stretch those beeps (up to 0.5-1 sec) so they can be heard more easily after you release the trigger.

Finally, different users will need those battery monitors with different threshold values. I guess I'll have to add a small 3-pins connector for two detacheable buttons (up and down) to give the user ability to adjust the tripping point using a conventional voltmeter or multimeter. I will be able to ship those little circuits pre-adjusted to a certain value specified by the customer.

Now, the main problem for me is that I need to try to estimate future demand for circuits like those. I guess its price will be about $60 including shipping from Russia to US/Canada (please understand that it's not that I'm too greedy, it's the circuit being too specific so it will never be sold in volumes like hundreds of pieces and R'n'D cost won't spread around these quantities).

Questions for you:

Do you like the whole design idea? Do you care about your battery condition/endurance that much?

If you'd agree to pay $60 or so for the circuit like this, please let me know -- I need to have at least preliminary number of potential customers before I start working on it.

If you're not a member of this forum, you may want to send your opinion to my e-mail: e-go [you-know-what] inbox [dot] ru

Thanks.

Yours,
Sergey.

camracer
15:16:02 Wed
Feb 19 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I put a battery voltage indicator on my Blackbird stock. I have five 18650 batteries in the stock. Full charge 21v. I use it to make sure I do not drop voltage below 14v on my rechargeable batteries.

I push a button to check the voltage. It is only on when i push the button.







---Cam

Sergey_new_pcb
05:11:27 Fri
Feb 21 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Cam and everybody.

Though it's another great evidence of how skillful Cam's hands are it's not exactly what a Drozd/Blackbird needs. My idea is that when you pull the trigger voltage may drop down below a certain point (which is sometimes stated on Li cells). If you measure batteries voltage after you release the trigger it can be above this point again due to the batteries nature -- the equivalent circuit diagram would include an "ideal" voltage source and a resisitor conected in series with it. Thus, the greater power consumption is, the lower voltage we measure at the battery terminals. When the load is very small or zero, the voltmeter will show "ideal" cell voltage which can be misleading. We need some smarter circuit that would beep or blink AFTER it registers short voltage drops below threshold value.

This would involve some R'n'D and it's going to be a very specific circuit (I won't be able to sell many of them) so I'm not sure it's worth getting involved in it.


camracer
13:27:19 Fri
Feb 21 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi Sergey.

Yes, well said. Agreed. I only use my indicator to make sure my battery charge is not getting too low (bad for rechargeable lithiums for those who are not aware).

A while back, I converted a NiCad DeWalt drill pack to use an 8000mAh LiPo pack.

That pack I installed this low voltage warning beeper circuit.
http://www.amazon.com/Hobbymate-Cells-Battery-Voltage-Monitor/dp/B009Z7LW3I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392988310&sr=8-2&keywords=US+Ship+Hobbymate+5+Cells+Lipo+Battery+Low+Voltage+Monitor+LED+%2F+ALARM

(Except mine was a 5S unit for my application)

Sergey, would this not work for what you are talking about?

---Cam



Sergey_new_pcb
00:23:40 Sat
Feb 22 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello everyone.

It looks like a suitable solution at a very reasonable price. I didn't actualy get to programming procedure, maybe there are different modules designed to monitor different batteries.

I received another link to a similar circuit in my e-mail (thanks Jim). Here it is: http://www.hobbypartz.com/79p-8003-voltagemonitor.html

Case closed.


gy954
00:47:19 Tue
Mar 18 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi Sergey, camracer, DUBB, drozdandconfused, and all:

It's been a long time since I got my version 3 board or posted here. Finally I can do both, because I got around to installing the board. The only problem I have is with the buttons. I haven't figured out how to keep them from falling out of the gun's body. Otherwise, here she is! I would love to hear from you guys. It was your posts here that lead me through the installation process, so props to you all.


camracer
14:27:39 Thu
Mar 20 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You can do the buttons in a bunch of different ways.

I did mine by cutting some rubber buttons off an old TV remote control I had lying around. Cut them off the backer leaving a "tab" of rubber on them. That will hold them in there quite well.







---Cam

DUBB
15:21:20 Thu
Mar 20 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yeah, those silicone buttons work great. I actually used the "nipples" from underneath the joypad buttons on mine, same thing. I had to glue in a little bit of plastic under them to take out the slack travel so they have a nice, positive feel. This is mine nest to GD's bumblebee. I stuck hard caps on my buttons, so the silicone is pretty much just for springyness.



Sergey_new_pcb
14:16:39 Sun
Apr 13 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Attention Italian customer whose mailbox is located at tiscali.it.

I found both messages from you in my spambox and replied to them. Check your spambox too, it's likely that my replies will be considered "suspicious mail" as well.

Sergey_new_pcb
23:45:51 Wed
Jul 9 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have a few white displays right now (thanks to Carpecervisi) so just let me know if you want your board to be a limited edition.

E-mail: e-go[you-know-what]inbox[d0t]ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800

Sergey_new_pcb
23:02:32 Sun
Oct 5 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello everyone.

I need your opinion again.

I have a side product of one of my other projects sold in Russia -- a large digital 7-segments display and I'm thinking of some new applications for it. Here's how it looks:



Some technical info:

Overall dimensions (W*H): 3'9" * 1'4" (114 * 41 cm)
Digit hight: 13,4" (34 cm)
Distance the numbers can be seen from: 100+ yards (over 100 m)

It's controlled over a single cable from half a mile distance. Segments color can be white, green, red or blue. There is also a separate output to control traffic light or some other equipment. Commands can be received from a PC or a specific controller.

Please suggest other possible applications for that sort of a display, including those that might seem crazy. Feel free to name applications that would require modifications in the original design like changing the number of digits, number of outputs for external modules etc. The display controller is scalable so it won't be a big problem to change digits' size. Thank you in advance.

If you have any questions but are not registered at this forum, here's my contact info:

E-mail: e-go[you-know-what]inbox[d0t]ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800

Yours,
Sergey.

P.S. The next board equipped with white display is preparing for its trip to Connecticut. You can also buy one directly from Ray if you hate waiting.

Sergey_new_pcb
11:01:02 Fri
Nov 28 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Black friday special offer for 1 Sergey's board shipped to customer's location -- USD95.

E-mail: e-go [you-know-what] inbox [dot] ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800

Sergey_new_pcb
12:03:40 Tue
Dec 2 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The beast equipped with white display:





DUBB
21:14:34 Tue
Dec 2 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That is awsome! I really, really, toiled with that decision, I found out there was such a thing as a white display only I had my heart set, and my mind made up on the blue one I was searching for. I was very tempted, but it would have clashed with my theme I was going for.

Sergey_new_pcb
23:51:20 Sat
Dec 6 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m



Sergey_new_pcb
10:48:28 Thu
Dec 11 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Before Christmas comes I'll be able to make 3-4 "Sergey's boards" at special holiday price -- US $95.

E-mail: e-go [you-know-what] inbox [dot] ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800

Sergey_new_pcb
21:43:36 Tue
Dec 16 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Two "discount" boards left.

Tbkahuna
21:10:00 Thu
Dec 18 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Please check you PMs.

TBK

Djjordan1000
01:23:26 Mon
Dec 22 2014
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I also will be needing a board.

Sergey_new_pcb
07:19:09 Mon
Jan 12 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome, Parellax.

Belgium gets the second board. The next one will be sent to Canada.

Sergey_new_pcb
15:38:35 Mon
Jan 12 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Parellax seems to have the world's coolest coffee table :smile:



Two boards are getting aquainted with America:



...and introducing themselves.



Parellax
18:17:00 Mon
Jan 12 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks. I really appreciate the craftsmanship you put into your work. People with BB's not using Sergey's Board are seriously missing out. BTW. I only take pictures of super cool stuff on that table.

DUBB
18:39:45 Mon
Jan 12 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Parellax at 18:17:00 Mon Jan 12 2015

Thanks. I really appreciate the craftsmanship you put into your work. People with BB's not using Sergey's Board are seriously missing out. BTW. I only take pictures of super cool stuff on that table.

c
Can your table be fired?

Parellax
20:32:54 Mon
Jan 12 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes it can. I shoot lead balls that are roughly the size if ping pong balls with 2.4oz's of black powder. I can't remember the muzzle velocity, but they have a range of 1680 yards. My prefered targets are old toilets.

alc63
01:44:46 Tue
Jan 13 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
yes' its so clean!

Parellax
05:00:55 Fri
Jan 16 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
So Sergey. I am a new member of this forum (great fan of your SB2 BTW). What are your plans for that giant LED display you posted other than my wife getting wind of it, and having you build me a giant alarm clock?

Sergey_new_pcb
16:06:11 Fri
Jan 16 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello Parallex.

Thanks for asking. Sorry, I can't tell you right now about my plans for the large displays (will tell you that later when the time comes) but you actually reminded me that I could also use this forum to find a partner.

I'm looking for a partner with soldering skills to assemble those large displays in the US.

For more info:
https://www.smallbusinessforums.org/showthread.php?6466-Partner-needed-(soldering-skills-buying-components-talking-to-cliets-etc)

Yours,
Sergey.


Parellax
03:51:28 Sat
Jan 17 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
My only thought is that Russia has built a giant Blackbird, and has commissioned you to do the mods. Can you tell us the caliber at least? Seriously. I am willing to help, but am a piss poor electrician.


Parellax
04:43:29 Sat
Jan 17 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Wow! I didn't expect a reply from you so quickly. Thank you for the customer service, and sharing my pics. I have had a problem addressing the boards you recently sent me. I have been calling them SB2. What is the proper name for your current board?

Sergey_new_pcb
12:47:39 Sun
Jan 18 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
The laterst version is called SB-2 or "ver.3".

European attempt to embed SB and non-Drozd solenoid valve into an AR-15 airsoft gun.



Parellax
05:04:47 Tue
Jan 20 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Interesting. I wonder how that project turned out. I took both of my BB's to the mountains over the weekend. I couldn't stop playing with the one I recently installed your SB-2 in. I have to give myself a pat on the back for installing it myself. I was so worried about nothing! Unfortunately I forgot my scuba tank so made do with with my two 90in bottles. I had enough air for a great time all the same. Thanks again for improving the quality of my life through your awesome work.

Sergey_new_pcb
00:41:54 Tue
Jan 27 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
All other non-stock components are by Jim C innovations (Jim, you owe me a bottle of vodka now :smile: ).





Parellax
00:50:42 Tue
Jan 27 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Sergey, and Jim. I can die a happy man now.

Parellax
06:17:18 Tue
Jan 27 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I failed to mention a shout out to Ray from Drozdmax, and the internal mag upgrades he performed on this build. We will be here. Love your work!

alc63
22:11:25 Sun
Feb 1 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
serg, any boards left?

Sergey_new_pcb
07:18:51 Thu
Feb 5 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Good news for crazy airguns fans. Now I have very compact boards (1*1.05 inches) for Blackbird-like home built devices.

Tech info:
ROF: 900 RPM (not user settable, can be modified on demand)
Upper voltage limit: 15 V
Pulse: 3-15 mS (adjusted with a button)
Single shot / full auto switch: YES
Mag motor support: YES

Price (incl. shipping to US/Canada): $45.





For more info:

E-mail: e-go[you-know-what]inbox[dot]ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800

camracer
16:08:05 Thu
Feb 5 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's great Sergey!

I'm sure that will open some doors to experimenting.

---Cam

Parellax
04:18:41 Fri
Feb 6 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That looks like a stepping stone for any future solenoid actuated air gun. Nice work! I can't wait to see how it evolves. Can you also share how you make those funny looking quarters?

Sergey_new_pcb
05:33:13 Fri
Feb 6 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks Gentlemen.

Sergey's boards are also available.

Good news -- due to changes in rouble to dollar ratio I can offer them a bit cheaper now -- for $95 only including shipping from Russia to your post office.

E-mail: e-go[you-know-what]inbox[dot]ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-90-90-500-800

Parellax
01:54:39 Wed
Feb 11 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I am really enjoying my new SB-2 on my shorty. I took it to the public range the other day. I let everybody shoot my new BB who wanted to. It was funny how they turned into kids again like I did. If you are silly enough to have bought a BB you are really missing out on the awesome rediculous upgrade Sergey can provide for you. This is the way this bb gun was meant to run. In for a penny in for a pound. FYI. I did this for a friend. This is not my business. DrozdMax is the way to go for mods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6kgrFuSk3M

Sergey_new_pcb
12:15:00 Sat
Feb 28 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Another board is on the way to Germany.

It's still a very "exotic" country in terms of "Sergey boards" population around the world, 90% of my customers are from US and Canada.

Sergey_new_pcb
22:50:57 Mon
Mar 23 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
South Carolina. 18 V battery pack.





Sergey_new_pcb
22:57:29 Mon
Mar 23 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
https://youtu.be/3UR25zfRVfs


camracer
15:46:27 Tue
Mar 24 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Nice Drozds Parellax!

Like what you did with the "cell phone" case for the battery. it fits the AR stock quite well. Good idea.

Parellax
16:26:45 Tue
Mar 24 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks. I haven't been on lately because I was having problems logging in. Apparently when you log in you have to spell your username correctly. I have been snooping around though. Since I have been on I did Dubbs' mag mod on my tactical BB. It has worked like a charm with no more double shots. Thanks again guys!

camracer
13:57:54 Wed
Mar 25 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Heh, yeah, I didn't know if you meant to spell "parallax" wrong or not...:wink:

Parellax
16:45:42 Wed
Mar 25 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
No. I thought Parellax was a good portmanteau combining parallax, and relax describing the feeling of a good beer buzz. :rotflmao:

camracer
13:56:53 Thu
Mar 26 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Mmmmnnnnnnn........Beeeeeeer!:lol:



Parellax
23:32:11 Thu
Mar 26 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
For some reason I thought you might like that. Here is another one. I was raised to never mix alcohol, and firearms. Nobody said anything about artillery.

camracer
15:56:21 Sat
Mar 28 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
....putting guns in your alcohol makes it taste bad.

Parellax
02:46:49 Sun
Mar 29 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I guess spent BP is an acquired taste.

Parellax
00:01:48 Mon
Mar 30 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sorry for the video quality, and lack of sound. Pretty cool anyway. My coffee table in action.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1416805651944801&l=4033180987356260969

camracer
14:53:18 Mon
Mar 30 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That's what I call, "punishing the toilet"!!:lol:

noid
07:07:46 Wed
Apr 1 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just waiting for one of Sergeys boards to show up.

wolfbane80
02:18:00 Thu
Apr 2 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm waiting for my sergey board to. May I ask when did you Buy.

noid
12:04:18 Fri
Apr 3 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
couple of weeks ago


wolfbane80
21:26:34 Wed
Apr 8 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Got my board. Looks great sergey. You soldier well. Let the fun begin trying to cut the window out. Someone should make a template u could print out and lay on your gun to mark where it should be cut. Just an idea. I don't want to.mess this up. So far this bb gun cost more then a ak47. Lol. But the truth. Again sergey thanks you for the wonderful craftsmanship. Bob

wolfbane80
21:55:42 Thu
Apr 9 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Got the board in. Works great!!! This is a. Whole new level of fun. Ty again

Parellax
23:55:08 Tue
Apr 14 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That toilet is never going to give anyone anymore problems. It deserved what it got. :smash:

camracer
16:54:38 Wed
Apr 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m


Parellax
01:44:00 Fri
Apr 17 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I took my coffee table out to a buddy of mines annual party. There was an announcement made initially that we would be firing the cannon. We had some technical difficulties, and an hour later we finally touched it off not far behind a crowd that was watching a live Bluegrass band. By this point they had forgotten about the warning so many of them were heading to the bathroom directly after we plowed a lead ball slap through the base of a ten inch Poplar about two hundred feet away. The ball tore up the ground behind it, and was never seen again.

camracer
14:59:00 Sat
Apr 18 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Cannons are fun!:rotflmao:

Parellax
02:28:08 Sun
Apr 19 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
They are awesome, but I have to give an honerable shout to Sergey.
if it was't for him this post would not exist.

Parellax
04:14:06 Sun
Apr 19 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
They just had a baby! I am so prowd! I will be posting pix later. I love you all!!!

Parellax
05:02:48 Sun
Apr 19 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey, I did not expect to run out of boards this quickly. I am all out now so you will have to fill the gap because I can't get them here any faster than you can at the moment.

Parellax
22:09:33 Sun
Apr 19 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Here she is. Parellax Servitus The Fourth. I am sorry if the cord grosses anyone out, but I am so proud.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/masondawson2/20150419_175353_zpscufuqf4f.jpg

camracer
17:14:02 Tue
Apr 21 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Awwwwwww!!!! She's SOOOOO CUTE!!!!!:lol:

Parellax
03:59:12 Wed
Apr 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I wonder if Sergey still looks at this rediculuosness... Boo!. and a shout out to you you crazy folks like me!!! This isn't over......

noid
04:07:55 Wed
Apr 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
still waiting

Sergey_new_pcb
11:39:25 Wed
Apr 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'm here. The baby is cute.

Parellax
01:20:03 Fri
Apr 24 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
There you are! Thank you, but watch out when she gets the hiccups!:smash:

MrWizzle
01:31:40 Sat
May 2 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi Sergey, I'd like to purchase a board from you for my blackbird. how would I go about doing that?

Sergey_new_pcb
02:33:23 Sun
May 3 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
See your PM inbox (go to User CP -> PM inbox).

If you're having any problems accessing your PM inbox, drop me a line at e-go[you-know-what]inbox[dot]ru

Parellax
02:07:44 Mon
May 11 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey. Can you spot the not on my thread? When you see it keep it to yourself.:smash:

noid
23:29:10 Thu
May 14 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I finally got the board today. Russia post must have put this on a boat. Took forever. But i'm happy I got it.

Are there any "how to's' for this board?


Any tips or tricks?

Parellax
02:01:56 Fri
May 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
You may need to very carefully file the sides of the board. The ones I have dealt with have a super tight fit. Epoxy the buttons to thin flexible plastic tabs that you can slide the board over to get to get it in position. Get rid of excess epoxy around the edge of the buttons because when you put them inside the housing if it is not clean this will push the buttons into the housing making it difficult to to get the board past. I have found cutting the tabs flush with the bottom of button so the board clears the tabs the buttons work better.

bullpuphunter73
12:36:53 Thu
May 21 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Parellax do you have any pics of how you do your buttons and what size drill bit you used for the holes.
Thanks Terry

Parellax
22:00:51 Thu
May 21 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
If memory serves me I use a 1/4" bit for the buttons, but make sure by lining the button up with the butt if the bit. The last one I did I epoxied the buttons to some plastic I salvaged from a chocolate bunny box. Just rough up the surface with sandpaper before you epoxy. If you don't have a chocolate bunny box it's OK. all you need is some thin flexible plastic to make some tabs out of that stick out of the housing the buttons are epoxied to. I like to cut the tabs flush with the bottom of the buttons. There are a few pieces of the housing you will need cut the bottoms of the tabs to fit around. The reason I cut the tabs off right under the button is because if you don't the board will not clear the bottom of the tabs when it is home making the buttons not work perfectly. The other important thing to take into consideration is the very tight fit of the board. I carefully sand or file each long side of the board until they are smooth. This gives me the clearance I need while still having a nice tight fit. Because it is a tight fit if you leave any epoxy that squeezes out from under the button when you press it to the tab when it cures, and you put it in the the hole the excess will push the button into the housing slightly preventing the board from clearing it. Sorry, but I don't have any pix. I will take some the next time I do one. I hope this helps.

DUBB
23:24:35 Sat
May 23 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I use tv remote buttons, or the silicone rubber (it's the same stuff) cones from under the buttons of an old joypad to make buttons. It has a nice feel to it.


clamperbrother
03:19:52 Mon
May 25 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Looks good but, your clean glue gob.

Parellax
03:32:43 Fri
May 29 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I don't know, but that looks like heavy use, and development to me.

DUBB
21:59:58 Fri
May 29 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Parellax at 03:32:43 Fri May 29 2015

I don't know, but that looks like heavy use, and development to me.

it is, and more than one layer of spray paint. Consider that I also filled in the hole for the magazine wire plug, as well as one I drilled in the receiver when I first got it so I could get to the pot that adjusts the pulse duration on the stock board. I also had to adjust the holes for the buttons a bit. It could sure use a good sanding, and a fresh coat of paint. One of these days.... I need to fill in the holes where the original switches were again, too.

Parellax
00:55:54 Thu
Jun 4 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This may be your last chance to get a great deal directly from Sergey instead of waiting on my shipment. At this point you may still be able to order your board directly from the inventor for a discounted price from what I can offer in the same run. I have never had a shipment not arrive after dealing with Sergey for two years. If I, or anyone else had it would be on the forum somewhere. Send him a PM if you want one. I have bigger plans.

Sergey_new_pcb
06:57:52 Thu
Jun 4 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Right, I get more Russian roubles per every single American dollar these days. So, today's board price is 30% lower than 12 months ago if you pay with US dollars and order it from me directly. If we take Drozdmax lase year price as a reference point, you save 37%.

DUBB
06:49:25 Sun
Jun 7 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
And for those with the old Drozd's, I hear that EAA has spare blackbird magazines, one of those and one of Sergey's boards will upgrade you for about the difference in cost of the two, new. It's like getting the board for free when you upgrade.

Tbkahuna
22:50:20 Sun
Jun 7 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I tried buying the Blackbird mag before. They assured me it was the motorized mag. It was not. So, I got several steel body regular Drozd mags. Has anyone received a recent motorized mag?

TBK

Parellax
23:23:13 Mon
Jun 8 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
A few weeks ago I went on EAA's site to find the old mags advertised. They didn't have any. They just failed to update their site. I haven't been back so it's news to me if they are selling the motorized mags.

DUBB
01:43:46 Tue
Jun 9 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well, you know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true........

bullpuphunter73
02:53:31 Mon
Jun 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well guys got my battery pac stock in from Jeremy, my sb2 board from parallax, got my upgrade mag motor installed finally got everything back together and this thing shoots awesome now, I'll get it outside tomorrow raining here in KC now an really try it out:rotflmao:

DUBB
06:45:16 Mon
Jun 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: bullpuphunter73 at 02:53:31 Mon Jun 15 2015

Well guys got my battery pac stock in from Jeremy, my sb2 board from parallax, got my upgrade mag motor installed finally got everything back together and this thing shoots awesome now, I'll get it outside tomorrow raining here in KC now an really try it out:rotflmao:

Is that that stock that took the drill pack? That was artfully done, is he really selling them, too? I might have to get in on that.

Okay, I talked to Sergey, and he says 6S lithium is approved! 6S @ 4.2v = 25.2v, peak, and although he rates them for 24v, he builds them to take 26v, as imposed by that big, fat capacitor. This means if you have one of his boards, you can pretty much put any combination of any kind of battery that will fit in the compartment safely. No dummy cells are ever required. I studied Sergey's work, so I kinda knew all that, but I wanted to ask first.

It also means that any 24v drill pack will will work. In fact, 14v and up will fit and work, if that's what you have. I'm pretty sure that the drill packs are all the same, aren't they?

bullpuphunter73
12:43:22 Mon
Jun 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Yes it is a very well made setup, looks and shoulders really good

Parellax
15:33:49 Mon
Jun 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sweet! I would love to see that bad boy in action. Can you post a YouTube video, or maybe some pics?

Sergey_new_pcb
06:37:31 Tue
Jun 16 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: DUBB at 06:45:16 Mon Jun 15 2015



Okay, I talked to Sergey, and he says 6S lithium is approved! 6S @ 4.2v = 25.2v, peak, and although he rates them for 24v,


One notice: do it at your own risk. This may damage the board but repeair won't be expensive.

bullpuphunter73
12:55:24 Tue
Jun 16 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I'll try an get something going today rained again yesterday, never put anything on youtube x your fingers

bullpuphunter73
20:07:27 Wed
Jun 17 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Well guys got some pics of the bob but can't figure out how to upload from my iPad

bullpuphunter73
20:13:52 Wed
Jun 17 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Here's trying

bullpuphunter73
14:24:57 Sun
Jun 21 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Thanks for the help Parellax still can get pics loaded, can you tell me what the thread size is on the bb barrel.

Parellax
01:33:50 Mon
Jun 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sure. Shoot me a PM if you want to get straightened out on posting pictures, or sites. I don't know the thread pattern, but if someone doesn't answer your question tonight I will measure it tomorrow in the "lab".

Parellax
12:37:44 Mon
Jun 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
"M8x0.75 by about 13mm long."

Parellax
02:48:00 Sat
Jul 18 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Boom!

Sergey_new_pcb
16:45:04 Sat
Jul 25 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I have one board right now fully assembled, tested and ready for shipment. Let me remind you that typically customers have to wait 2 or 3 days necessary to buy components etc.

e-mail: e-go[you-know-what]inbox[dotty]ru
skype: sergey.pismensky
phone: +7-90-90-500-800

If you want you board to be delivered to you the fastest way possible contact this forum user named Parellax.

STICKMAN
20:19:00 Mon
Aug 10 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello, new to the forum thing, that said, just got a BB from Canada. I am behind the game as far as upgrade availability, That said I have a 15 SMG barrel to put on the never fired BBMG. I also would like a "full auto" board put into it. I have bulk air, nitrogen,as well as CO2. I need someone to help me build this into an all out fun gun. Could someone help me find a board, as well as any other suggestions on making it all out (without sacrificing reliability). Thanx

Parellax
23:24:17 Mon
Aug 10 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Welcome. Sergey, and I sell his boards. I try to keep them in stock stateside, and have several at the moment. Sergey can give you a better deal if you are willing to wait. I offer the boards with a stick on template, a few other goodies, and instructions on how to install. If you want Sergey's contact info I will provide it to you. Just send me a PM by clicking the yellow "User CP".

STICKMAN
15:27:12 Tue
Aug 11 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I an sorry I do not understand what a "PM" is. anyway, I am fine with getting it from you, I appreciate the response, how do we get in touch, also I had difficulty navigating back to this thread, is there a way to know if there is a response to a post I make? 47 yr old rookie. LOL thnx

Parellax
21:59:41 Tue
Aug 11 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
PM stands for private message. I will send you one. The next time you come back here you will see a notification prompting you to let you know you have a PM. It should be fairly self-explanatory from there. Whenever you come to this forum you will see "new" next to the threads you haven't seen the latest replies on. Say you start your own thread asking a question or something. Chances are you will not get an immediate response. I usually check this forum once a day to see what is going on. When you start a new thread it goes to the top of the list. It stays there until someone comments on another thread. That thread then gets "bumped" above yours. We are talking on Sergeys' thread. It never goes so far down you won't see it.

markymarc
17:23:22 Sat
Aug 15 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi, does anyone have a Drozd Blackbird HPA coiled hose they want to sell?

Parellax
01:59:06 Sun
Aug 16 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I would suggest you buy a quality new one. I once skimped trying to save a buck on a paintball hose (that's all they are) that was Chinese made. It had a hole in it. Fortunately the company allowed me to return it. I would hate to have one separate on me at 1600 psi. It's easy to get used to the way these toys function properly. You don't get many chances if any when they don't.

DUBB
07:04:54 Tue
Aug 18 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Parellax at 01:59:06 Sun Aug 16 2015

I would suggest you buy a quality new one. I once skimped trying to save a buck on a paintball hose (that's all they are) that was Chinese made. It had a hole in it. Fortunately the company allowed me to return it. I would hate to have one separate on me at 1600 psi. It's easy to get used to the way these toys function properly. You don't get many chances if any when they don't.

Tell me about it, I run full tank pressure through mine, so I have the 5000psi working/10000psi bursting pressure (thick ass) hose, with stainless steel fittings. I don't really want to have any problems with that. Funny, the thing tenses up like a snake trying to coil up when the pressure hits it.....

GAshooter
15:27:43 Mon
Aug 24 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just purhased a canadian drozd. Assume it will come in with Canadian velocity and with burst only. How do I mod to get full FPS and fully auto?

Sergey_new_pcb
22:32:32 Mon
Aug 24 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello and welcome, GA shooter!

Shoot an e-mail to me (e-go at inbox dot ru) or Mason (masondawson2 at gmail dot com).

First variant is cheaper but it'll take about a month to receive your board, second option is faster but slightly more expensive.

alc63
23:55:18 Mon
Aug 24 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
i've posted about the canadian version before, we have 2 of them.. we found they use a amber colored breach seal, this is not a round seal, it has 3 places that air can pass by, chrono showed around 480 fps. eaa sells the round seals, think part 3# or #4, installed them and was hitting right around 540 fps.. added the jimc barrel, sergeys board, fine tuned the solenoid, motor up-grade, running as close to 25v as possible, got it up to just under 800 fps! havent shot it for awhile, still waiting on new board

Parellax
06:39:14 Tue
Aug 25 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
This video will explain everything.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSi-yCV-gQ4

Parellax
04:32:28 Tue
Sep 8 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Sergey,
I just noticed something that I can't help being amused by. If I look at our avatars in back to back posts from a third party perspective I can only imagine the anxiety, and confusion our poor customers have to deal with while making a decision of who they want to buy from. I think I am going to try to put the Facebook rainbow app over mine to make it look more friendly, and inviting. :rotflmao: Perhaps we can gather our own data from this experiment.:smash:

Tbkahuna
03:00:04 Thu
Oct 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
What happened?

Parellax
21:12:34 Thu
Oct 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
No one spoke to me for weeks.

Tbkahuna
23:45:29 Thu
Oct 22 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
That sounds familiar.

Sergey_new_pcb
05:20:02 Sat
Nov 28 2015
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hello everyone.

Just want to let you know that I'm back from my trip to Canada. If you want a board for special price (it's black friday, right?) just send me a message.

My e-mail: e-go [at] inbox [dot] ru

In case you want your board ASAP (it'll be a bit more expensive) contact Mason:

masondawson2 [at] gmail [dot] com

Parellax
23:29:19 Sat
Jan 23 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
SB-4K in action. Contact Sergey for them.
e-go[at]inbox[dot]ru

https://youtu.be/mk1Czsz4aQU

Parellax
02:59:46 Sun
Jan 24 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's really hard for me to surprise anyone who lives with me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuHfrxDG7E

DUBB
09:56:09 Mon
Jan 25 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Parellax at 04:32:28 Tue Sep 8 2015

Sergey,
I just noticed something that I can't help being amused by. If I look at our avatars in back to back posts from a third party perspective I can only imagine the anxiety, and confusion our poor customers have to deal with while making a decision of who they want to buy from. I think I am going to try to put the Facebook rainbow app over mine to make it look more friendly, and inviting. :rotflmao: Perhaps we can gather our own data from this experiment.:smash:

That reminds me of something I did like that, back before I fell out with the cable company, and had bandwidth coming out my wazoo.... I always have great wireless routers, flashed with DD-WRT, the ultimate os for routers (free and open source, with a support forum to go with), and I could broadcast multiple AP's with different names and security settings. I used to like to leave one, open, and unsecure AP called "COMPUTER_HACKER" to see if anyone was brave or dumb enough to try using it for some free internet.

Parellax
03:49:03 Wed
Jan 27 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Now I wouldn't know anything about that. I first started paying for wifi just under a year ago. What a fucking racket! She's retired now, but back in the day... well you get the point. That was a fun project. I never hacked anyone though.


Parellax
23:34:04 Tue
Feb 9 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
SB-4K test at 4K.
https://youtu.be/NO26QJ-xR_c

DUBB
13:46:34 Fri
Mar 4 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I never hacked anyone, either.
I'm getting free wifi, now, actually. My area has a plethora of public hotspots, and I build my own high gain directional antennas, as a hobby, and have one of them coupled to a high power usb network card, so no rf cable loss. I can pick up about 100 AP's from my window. I used to be into cb and ham radio, a long time ago. I like this band better, now instead of a postcard from some other ham, when I get a qsl, I get free internet!

Radzzr
01:56:43 Sat
Dec 17 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Hi, know this is old..but are you still making, selling boards ?

Parellax
16:27:46 Sun
Dec 18 2016
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
I doubt he will see your post, but yes he is. We have them up to 4K now. I'll PM you his email address.

Sergey_new_pcb
12:40:15 Thu
Jan 19 2017
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Just logged in at this forum (that used to be a great place some time ago) to wish everyone a good 2017 year. Gonna read PMs now.

Happy new 2017 old members and occasional visitors!

Parellax
03:01:12 Fri
Jan 20 2017
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
It's good to hear from you old timer. I hope you are well. Have a look at what silly American's like myself are doing with your awesome invention. Happy New Year to you as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWPwypCgzI

DUBB
09:35:28 Fri
Jan 20 2017
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Quote: Parellax at 16:27:46 Sun Dec 18 2016

I doubt he will see your post, but yes he is. We have them up to 4K now. I'll PM you his email address.

I got to hand it to you, 4000rpm is quite an accomplishment, I my mag can barely manage 2000 without a few airshots.
Are you familiar with my auger drive test? It's a matter of taking out the unloading ramp, then power up over a bucket and catch the bb's that spew out the unloading ramp hole, and count them. I used a digital scale to count them, factoring in that the startup run is 2-1/2 seconds (right, Sergey?), then figuring out the rate becomes a function of math. Steel bb's weigh 5.5 grains.

total weight of dumped bb's in grains / 5.5= number of dumped bb's x 24 = bb's per minute.

That's coming out of the auger, not accounting the feed up to the head. Does my formula make sense?


Parellax
02:03:38 Sat
Jan 21 2017
Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m
Indeed. I accidentally perform that test a lot. There's nothing like feeling you have a handle on something, and then on power up bb's pour out the mag.





Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 ms)
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