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Phugedaboudet
22:28:34 Thu
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wasnt part of the problem due to the .223 being rather heavily deflected by brush, so a spray and pray would pretty much mean your rounds going many inches wide when they hit a leaf and start tumbling?

I love the 223 as a cheap plinker with enough energy to be a defensive round, but nothing beats the 308/ 7.62mm round for real world dirty combat.



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I shot a Grackle flying overhead by pure instinct. I unloaded 30 rounds in 2 seconds, but hey, it was by instinct.:lol:

  
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In my hometown of Salem, Oregon, two kids went up and down the main streets of town some years back popping about every plate glass window in sight...middle of the night. Did tens of thousands in damage. Easy to do, actually.

As for BB guns and the Army, I was infantry trained for "quick kill" during the Vietnam war...incredible training. I could hit an aspirin out of the air with a Red Ryder type gun with NO SIGHTS. I had guys in my company I saw hit BB's out of the air...no kidding.

Too many of our guys were emptying 20 round mags at zig zagging Viet Cong with machetes and missing then getting hacked to death while attempting to reload.

A big plate glass window just standing there looking stupid would be an easy target, yes? No?

Idiots.
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thank goodness. Retards like that don't need to be anywhere *near* automatic weapons.

If he's that stupid and reckless to go shooting up cars and windows on a lark, he deserves to pay, pure and simple. Getting off the hook to run off to the military is the *last* thing he should be allowed to do.

Imagine what kind of stupid shite he'd pull off when he thought he could get away with it, in Iraq or something. The Jihadist media would love to paint the whole US Military as being just like him.



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sounds like a lotta $... but could be one BB that hit a 4 story tall window, who knows? coulda been a red ryder.
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That's what I was wondering....$75,000 is A LOT of damage for a BB gun. The first thing I thought of when I read this was, "It's gotta be a Drozd!"

  
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Wonder what the bb guns were. I guess Ill have to join the army nextime I go on a vandalism spree!

  
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Army rejects Bangor man sentenced in BB-gun rampage

The Army has officially rejected Steven Cowley, a Bangor man whose freedom hinged on his enlistment.

"After careful review, it has been determined that Mr. Cowley should be denied enlistment into the U.S. Army on the grounds of questionable moral character," Col. Charles E. Williams wrote in a memorandum that Cowley's lawyer, Ralph Bellafatto of Bethlehem Township, gave Northampton County Judge Anthony S. Beltrami this morning.

"Mr. Cowley's arrest/conviction record reflects a serious offense, for which he was arrested, charged, cited, held or convicted. ... The behavior and conduct of this applicant is inconsistent with Army values and discipline."

Beltrami immediately vacated an earlier sentence he had imposed, released Cowley, 19, on $75,000 unsecured bail, ordered a presentence investigation and set re-sentencing for Jan. 19.

"I feel snookered," Bellafatto said. "I feel I didn't do my job adequately for Mr. Cowley."

Cowley and three boys went on a BB-gun shooting rampage Nov. 6, 2005, and caused nearly $75,000 in damage by blasting at homes and vehicles in two counties. Cowley, a high school senior at the time, had already joined the Army through its delayed-entry program before the spree.

When he pleaded guilty in May to a single felony count of criminal mischief, Beltrami imposed a county prison term of 30 days to one year but suspended the punishment when Bellafatto said Cowley was set to report for basic training on June 21.

  
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