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How many Drozd do you own now Cam?


At least 11.

Well actually, ...Lots of variations of my guns... But I own just two from the factory. It FEELS like 11! I oughta post photos again of all my variations. It's really cool to see them. I'm on it.... Stay tuned!

ACD, BTW..... Welcome to the "money pit"!!!! :lol:

You asked if we have other guns... Well, read through one of the oldest still running threads. Radical started it. Check it out here:
http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=10&thread=165

I'll be adding to it this weekend!

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Wow very cool Radical!

You shop like I used to! Get multiples and stockpile the spares as parts, especially if parts are hard to come by!

I've only seen two different boxes for the Drozd. A complete big brown cardboard box with no logos, pictures or symbols for the Blackbird housed within.

The box I saw for the Classic Drozd was a flimy kinda low quality box with a white back and little text except "DROZD" on the back, and the front is bluish and with some Russian writing.

Well hey, if you decide to to SergeyBoard upgrades on it, let me know, as I have some extra materials like templates and such for the time being, until I run out. Also have the black tinted plastic to place over the LCD. I dont have much left of it, but I think I remember who I got it from, so if I run out and people need more, I can point them where to buy or get some. I still cant remember what brand or what it is exactly called or the primary function or purpose, all I know it is 100% perfect for the SB install, and makes it much quicker and faster than using/cutting/shaping/sanding plexiglass for a window for your LCD.

I could probably give you enough of both button templates and screens for all 4 of them, just let me know before I run out. I already have some requests from PM, and as well I have friends with Drozd I have to help with their installs, so I need to set some of my extras aside for them too.

I will try to do the same with extra magnets and motors, once I come across them, but for right now, even I need magnets and motors still, so I am in no position to help on those - yet.


  
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I have 4. (2) still NIB and sealed original yell Bumble Bee's as well as extra barrels and 1200 chips. If I don't sell them, I'll fix them up for my college age nephews.

  
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How many Drozd do you own now Cam?

I only have one, and havent owned it for long, but I dont mind taking it to the limits and killing it/breaking it if you may, for it will be a great host of extra parts and spare parts too!

And things I hold myself back from doing now, because I cant order duplicates from EAA like you yankees down south of us, I could start to do and experiement with.

Thats why I would love two Drozd. One just to mess around with, drill into, crack open, add to, subtract from, you all around franken-drozd for testing theories and new developments.

And have one in perfect operating condition, to only take on new mods and additions that passed on the frankendrozd.

I want a classic Drozd stock, so I may end up buying one in the future, just for stock. Just for the stock?!?!?! How wasteful you say. But then I would have a whole gun for spare parts. With availability so low from Baikal, this would be a big plus or benefit to the world of modding. Fuck up? You got a spare to go! Right now its one shot, make or break it, for most of us Drozd folks.

I feel this really holds us back as a major limiter, so many more people would be modding, jumping on the bandwagon, contributing, instead of just spectating, and we would all get things moving forward much much faster.

As it stands, there are a few modders which truly stand out and push the envelope, though this forum is a great gathering place for many others who also have good things and new ways of doing things to contribute to the growing group of Drozd owners.

Anyways, with an extra Drozd, I could do so much with it. I could make a whole new custom gun out of it, or even turn it into a Drozd Blackbird! Just by replacing the Classic PCB wit the stock blackbird board I removed from my SB3 install! Easy and free upgrade, just one hole to drill!

Just need to drill a hole for the blackbird mag jack cord and it would be good to go. Well I guess

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I got my newest Drozd BB from Ray at DrozdMax. You could ask him to check the serial # before you have him ship one to you.....

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We had no choice in selection of production dates. At the time to my knowledge, the 05-11 production run was the newest, I dont know how many they make in a run, and I guess it also depends on how long the distributor is sitting on them for.

And at the same time, I am sure the distributor could have gotten newer 05-12 production run models in, but they could have set them in order, to sell the earlier dated models first. Anyhow, in Canada, and my friends purchased their Drozd and BB from different places too, we all had the 05-11 production date. Same batch or same shipment maybe I guess?

Good to know they are constantly still making changes and updates, it would just be good to know from Baikal what they do or upgrade each run, but I guess with tinkerers like us taking them apart, they wont keep any secrets from us for too long!

  
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Glad I waited. Now I can get the 2012 BB with the better motor.

  
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My Drozd Blackbird, in the manual the date is 05-11 so I think it must be a 2011 Blackbird manufactured in the 5th month basically?


Yep, that's right. Also, on the receiver just under the solenoid cover is a serial number. The first two digits is the year. The next three "661" is the model. The last five is your number in the production run.

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Awesome!

Well I got my SB-3 installed finally, I had a few issues on the reinstall but finally got everything in there and lined up correctly so all the buttons and trigger function and work correctly.

I will indeed have to get a upgrade motor.

My Drozd Blackbird, in the manual the date is 05-11 so I think it must be a 2011 Blackbird manufactured in the 5th month basically?

And I agree with you, I am gonna run the stock motor to its limits, I wont try to purposely kill it, but I will push it and if it dies, then onward to the Nichibo. I should get one anyways, cause I heard above 1200 rpm I will have feed problems and I should upgrade to take advantage of the 1400-2000 rpm settings.

Appreciate all the help everyone, I definitely feel like I am much behind all of you, so a kid in a candy store yes, but just trying to catch up with all of you! :smile:


  
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A "kid in a candy store" you are ACD! Heh, heh!

I can answer a few question you had, But first do you have a 2012 model blackbird? If you do, it is rated for 12v to that mag motor. If you have this motor in your mag you can push it to a higher voltage, but eventually it will fail. Who cares anyway if you a going to upgrade the motor! I say push it until it explodes! then replace with the Nichibo.




That is the upgraded motor Baikal added early this year (or actually late 2011).

If you want to shoot at 2000 rpm, you will need to upgrade your motor to the Nichibo QJT-360S-14280 motor. You can get them from Jameco Electronics (catalog # 206949)

You can see the performance of the stock motor as I tested it in my Youtube video here (Part 1) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc34vyFoWtQ

With Sergey's SB-3 board installed, you can push voltage upwards of 24v without any issues other than to the original (not upgraded) motor.

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Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hoo!

My Sergey board has just arrived! It came with three little button covers made from black plastic. When I first saw pics of them online I thought they were a bit big and ugly, but actually they are quite small or perhaps Sergey changed or switched them up.

I remember other people in older threads receiving extra parts and pieces in case they want to up the voltage or change something specifically. Mine came with no extras, other than the three buttons.

It came on a green printed board with 04.2012 and 06.4.18 in black ink on the back, I am guessing it is what is called version 3 or the newest Sergey Board?

Has everything been worked out so you don't need any spare parts or pieces anymore, or to remove any existing parts and resolder something for a specific voltage or setup?
I am wondering if i can do anything now, after this board install or if there are certain things I must still keep watch over to not damage or fry the internals.

What are my limitations now with this board?

Basically as I understand it, it's a battery voltage thing, that's all right? Stay under 20 or 24 volts and I should be okay?

Or do I need to upgrade to a nichibo motor too, or does that have nothing to do with the Sergey Board voltage limits or whatever?

I was under the impression I would fry my stock motor over 15 volts, is this true? So even if I install this sb3, I should remain under 15v until I change or upgrade the motor?

And it's the blackbird mag motor we are worrying about frying right? The Drozd doesn't have a motor, it has a solenoid for operations and that doesn't matter at all concerning voltage except the more volts the harder the solenoid hits?

I haven't ordered my nichibo yet, but I guess I should soon. I hear feed problems above 1400rpm with the stock motor, I guess volts has nothing to do with it at that point, if the stock motor can't keep up, it can't keep up

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Quote: motrdyd at 05:56:45 Tue Aug 7 2012

Eaa outa stock of mags too I just noticed they do sell full blackbird mags also


Really. Motorized Blackbird mags?? When did they start doing this?? Last time I talked to them early this spring, they said they are NO LONGER dealing with Baikal at all......! Maybe they are eliminating the last of their stock?? They can't have brand newly arrived stock.

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Did u do a post with the specs of the v.3 board so I can change the info on your site



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So middle August I will be buying



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Still $120 includind shipping from Russia to US/Canada.

  
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How much r the v.3 boards



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Eaa outa stock of mags too I just noticed they do sell full blackbird mags also



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http://www.eaacorp.com/catalog/. U can almost build a mag with the parts here drozd. And drozd2

And I will talk to sergery to ask him if he wants a competior on his site or if I'm not around will u ask for me dub
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Quote: motrdyd at 02:23:05 Sat Jul 28 2012

Sorry was out for a bit but I will make a place where people can post pics
I will let you know when it's up

You should probably add somewhere that whenever Drozdmax is in stock of replacement bb mags, that one of those, and one of Sergey's boards costs about the same as the difference between the old Drozd, and the BB. So an upgrade would cost the same as an uptrade, but it would be like with the upgrade to the old one, you get the board for free. IF you can get a magazine, they seem to sell out pretty quick. But it's still a good point to make. And you can add the link, so anyone interested can see if they can get a mag out of Drozdmax, at the time....
http://www.drozdmax.com/accessories/drozd-blackbird-magazine.html
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Sorry was out for a bit but I will make a place where people can post pics
I will let you know when it's up



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This board looks awesome. can't wait to get my hand on it.
Thanks Sergey for your great work.
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Well, maybe I spoke too soon. Drozdmax is out of stock on spare mags, at the moment, it seems. And they are $100, but that is still a deal, if he gets more in. My figures presume the improbable, like that you could sell a used Drozd for the same ammount that a new one costs, for instance. It will still cost less to upgrade an old one than to replace it, and that still puts you a Sergey board ahead, no matter how you look at it. It just hinges on availability of bb mags, I'm afraid.

There is always a catch, I hate that.



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As a matter of fact, I did GD's reciever for that, and so I have pix. The color says it all: That can only be a bumblebee with a Sergey board in it.....


Glad to help, Sergey. It's only a matter of drilling one more hole for the magazine plug difference as far as the installation is concerned, so updating the older ones with your boards makes sense. Someone said they sold off their old one, to buy a new bb, then he got one of your boards, I wish I had pointed this out sooner, it would have cut the cost in half for him. GD's looks pretty sharp, now. I have it down to a science, my silicone button install, it comes out really nice, not to brag, or anything. But it does.
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DUBB and Green Dots -- you are my best friends now :smile:
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Hello all.I have done just what DUBB is suggesting and can report that it works great. GD.

  
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And just because it's a good thing for the business, I thought that I would point out that in conjunction with Drozdmax.com now having bb magazines for $80 (is that right?), you can update the old Drozd with a Sergey board for about the same $200 difference between those and the bb. Deal, I say. It's almost like getting the board upgrade for free!



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Very Cool Sergey!!

I'm going to be ordering a new SG-2 board from you in the next week or so. That's #2 for me!! How can you own a Drozd without this amazing circuit board replacement!!! WOW!! :tongue:

---Cam

...Oh, and BTW, you have "comic book" perfect penmanship Sergey!! ...You know what I mean?? (.....You write like a "scholar")



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I have run out of the green boards shown earlier in this thread and had to make a couple of boards manually again. As I forgot what serial number was on the board I made manually last time, I had to make one of these boards very "individual".



This board will go to US on Monday.

The next batch of green boards will be available in August.
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Those are some nice buttons, there, Rad. What did you make those from, anyway? Mine are silicone rubber "skirts" that came out from under the hard buttons of dead gamepads, and those have the tops of those thigies that lock down the heatsink to small cpu's, like video cards have.

The yellow one is GD's, I didn't have any more of those thingies to make hard tops from, so those are just bare silicone. But they make great buttons like that, too.



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Lol! I could have put it on the 47" Samsung Smart 3D TV in front of me. Resizing was easiest:wink:

  
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Thanks.. I keep on forgetting that not everyone has a 30" LCD monitor like me..:lol::rotflmao:

  
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