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randyhub 04:21:03 Sat Sep 17 2005 Offline 98 posts BBMG Colonel Reply |
Watch Ebay, as for 35 bucks you can get a heavy coiled remote with a slide valve QD fittings, and most important a pressure guage for using CO2 tanks. HPA used tanks sometimes go for 25 bucks on Ebay.
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radical  03:44:49 Fri Sep 16 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER  Reply |
Yes. All those on Ebay are capatable. You shouldnt pay more than 35.00 and should for around 30.00 even.
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thermalsurfing 02:17:17 Fri Sep 16 2005 Offline 176 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
please tell me this is the right one for hpa/co2 ... it has the qd and the slide check
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-ACI-Coiled-Remote-slide-check-paintball-QD-HPS-coil_W0QQitemZ7182977656QQcategoryZ83044QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem | ||||
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waksabi 19:14:46 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 158 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
beecher this is what i see.
a 80cf tank, with a pressure testing head on the k valve(yoke). in the pressure testing head it has a standard fitting for the gauge. in place of the gauge, fit high psi hydraulic line to a 3000-4000max psi in line regulator (who sells that one?) with a T to keep the gauge. the regulator should be a 0-850 / or 1000 psi adjustable to keep the drozd from exploding seals. after the regulator use a paintball adapter to a high pressure coil line. then to the drozd bulk connection. a 80 cf tank should last about 1000000 shots. by the time youve bought everything you probably could have made a bulk fill station thats portable. better yet strap that 80 CF to your back and go plinking! might have to lean forward a little ppsp011hp palmers' ($60 ), is the inline regulator needed to attach to the 1/8th gauge port of the Yoke check head. what do you think radical? opp? smackdown? | ||||
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radical 17:03:36 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
Open the valve on a fillstation attatched to the drozd with a special remote with male connectores at both ends. Liquid co2 pours rapidly an ounce every second directly into the remote rapidly saturating it with liquid(no time to expand to gas) straight co2 liquid then enters the small expansion chamber and begins spraying large clouds of co2 snow when you begin firing.
Been there. Seen it happen with the bottle angled down connected directly to the bulk. Go ahead and try it. Never heard of anyone conceiving of doing this. The whole principe of the co2 tank is to have liquid to gas expansion in the bottle which enters and expands more in the remote and small expansion bulb in the magazine and released as gas to propell the bbs. As for SCUBA. Find an attatchment/adapter that connects to the tanks j valve, has a built in regulator to bring the 3000 psi to 850, and the proper nipple to hook to the QD on the remote, and yeah you woud be in business. I would definitely buy such a device to shoot in the basement. You essentially would have then an 80 cubic feet HPA bottle. These are my experiences and understanding. Anyone else pease chime in. | ||||
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bchrbchr 16:15:19 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 35 posts BBMG Corporal Reply |
i dont understand how you could use them to fill the bottles, but not power the gun.
scba tank: couldnt you just run a fill station line with a inline regulator, then to the cooper/smackdown/OPP fitting on gun ? co2 20lbs tanks spew liquid? why? do the 20 0z tanks spew liquid? that doesnt make sense. its the same stuff. edit ________ co2 in the 20oz tank is 850 psi. co2 in the 20# tank is 1800. therefore its a liquid. also it spews. i get it know. same thing with scba, 3000psi might fire the bb good once. its a shame a gaint tank with a 10 ft line is exactly what i need in my basement. thanks beecher | ||||
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radical 06:48:23 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
Definitey NO. Straight SCUBA is 3000psi. The fill bottles have a regulator so that discharge is 850 psi and safe for the Drozd. You would have tp pay someone $$$$ to make a valve with a built in reguator for the 850psi and a paintball
mail head to attatch and an adapter to tap the the j valve of the SCUBA tank. | ||||
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bchrbchr 06:14:01 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 35 posts BBMG Corporal Reply |
how about a scuba 80cf tank would that work directly? i just dont want to end up buying a bunch of tanks and stuff
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radical 06:05:25 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
If I understand right you mean the 20"pound" fill station tank? Not possible. The tanks are built to spew liquid filing somethhing. It would have to be a 20"ounce" bottle
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bchrbchr 05:49:06 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 35 posts BBMG Corporal Reply |
could 1 drozd be powered staright off the 20lb tank? im thinking about getting a cooper bulk fill and a big remote bottle to target shoot in my basement. the line wouldnt even have to be that long. the gas supply shop is quite a ways. i would only want to make the trip a coule times a year
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radical 05:34:47 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
I doubt any tank would support 2 Drozds. But Im not sure I understand your question.
I have a CO2 fill station and pay $17.00 for 20pounds of liquid CO2. You buy the tank first then exchange when empty. I think I paid around $120.00 originally for the tank. | ||||
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bchrbchr 05:14:21 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 35 posts BBMG Corporal Reply |
would a 20lb co2 cylinder with a dip tube be able to be used as a stationary remote suppy? or supply 2 guns at a range through a T ?
would the pressure from a 20lbs tank be too much? how much is co2 ? per pound? | ||||
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thermalsurfing 04:28:34 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 176 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
;V)
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radical 04:21:17 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
Only thing with a "K" in the spelling Ive heard about is special K.
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thermalsurfing 04:11:13 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 176 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
Radical, man that bites.i hope yoy get well soon.. i live up here in Oregon and we smoke anything green but katerna???? i have not tried that strain
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radical 04:05:56 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
On a full 3000psi charge Ill get approx 3-4 marksman speed
loaders. Full open mag dumps seem to use up more psi. One speedloader holds about 300bbs. | ||||
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waksabi 04:01:31 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 158 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
how manyshots do you get from a 47ci
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radical 03:54:38 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
I paid $31.00 plus s&h over a year ago. I got my 47ci HPA tank for $53.00. Both on Ebay. The remote works equally well on both HPA and CO2. Not sure if they come with a QD, but I had one put on mine.
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waksabi 03:45:18 Wed Sep 14 2005 Offline 158 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
i hope you recover well.
i just saw that exact remote hose kit. its $32, is that too much to pay including S+H ? can the hose be used for both HPS and CO2? | ||||
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radical 23:24:45 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
Officially, I almost kicked it. Diverticulitis became peritonitis
and my colon eviscerated inside my abdomen. Like an appendix rupture but many times worse. My abdomen was completely spit open and all my internal organs evacuated to minimize the massive infections that had deveoped. I was in lala land for a good 4 days and the hospital for 16 days altogether. Best med was in the hospital. They had an IV in my neck! The gave me fentanal :^) Its a derivative of morphine 100 times stronger. A pure grain as big as a salt grain can kill. Oh nurse, the pain the pain! Mr Z on a scale from 1 to 10 how would you......9 its a 9, I need a double whacker uh er I mean dose.  Now I have Hydrocodone. Not bad too but not the same.What is katerna? Is it smoked? 1000 rnd mags huh, well then lets get busy! | ||||
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thermalsurfing 21:44:03 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 176 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
radical, if you dont mind me asking... what happened to you. was it katerna ?? just wondering ! hope you have kick ass meds to help ease da pain !! get well asap.before ya know it we will have 1000 round mags and you will need to be able do a backflip from being so excited without getting those tubes all tangled up !!
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radical 21:32:12 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
Going fine. Just messin with tubes and a machine hooked up to me. Yeeeeeehaaaaa my 2 Drozds arrived just as I started typing this! I officially no longer need to worry about the Drozd disappearing caused Im stocked with 4 now! The heavy coil remote is what you want, the same as the one in the link below, same goes for the tank. The HPA tanks CANNOT be used with CO2. The are regulated and have a valve showing pressure. Tanks like the one in the link are filled to 3000psi to a volume of 47cubic inches and regulated to fire at 850 psi. Id start spending some serious time surfing Ebay to get your hose and tank for HPA. CO2 also works just fine with the heavy remote hose. I admit I had my hose customized for fitting with a QD and air on/off slide. As far as the Cooper T system, I dont know much about the hose couplers on them. You may need so adaptations for the sysytem and the remote, Randy would know about this. Good luck on your bulk system. Bout time! | ||||||
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zore 20:42:55 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 432 posts BBMG Lieutenant General ***  Reply |
Hey Radical hows it going, ?
Follow up questions as i am also preparing to take the plung into BULK. How do i know which remote hose to buy? I read that the diameter of the remote hose matters for 1200 rpm? Also what psi rateing should i get for the bulk tank to be able to do both hpa and co2? Im probably going to start with bulk co2 first and then move onto hpa and i want to be able to use the same tank with out upgrading? And lastly this is the set up i was going to get.. at cooper T http://www.cooper-t.com/airguns2.html "6100a Bulk Fill DROZD" See any problems with this? Zore | ||||
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waksabi 19:24:40 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 158 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
kmart has a remote 14 oz tank by eagle for 22 bucks.
wallmart has a 8oz remote on sale for 13 bucks | ||||
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radical 17:21:26 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER Reply |
BULK HOSE
HPA TANK All paintball shops fill them. If youwant your own fill station, youll need an 80CF SCUBA tank and a Fill Tap. | ||||
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forthaney 16:00:04 Tue Sep 13 2005 Offline 33 posts BBMG Corporal Reply |
I just ordered the cooper t and now I need a tank.
I also want to get a coil hose so I can experiment with different setups and avoid liquid feed. What size tank? and does the hose simply attach to the tank and screw in where the tank would have gone?? I am such a newbie to this. I never even had a paint ball gun. Just my .22 cal Benjamin Sheridan 392 and my real guns HPA is all new to me. I figured I would use the air-source adapter when my tank is in need of refill. What is the difference between HPA, CO2, nitro?? will it matter do most stores that fill tanks do all of these?? I think I need a Lesson!! | ||||
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