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Drozd_Newboy 15:19:40 Tue Aug 1 2006 Offline 12 posts BBMG Private Reply |
I got my holo sight from e-bay after seeing this and for something so cheap, it really is the business!!!
I had to get the adaptor rail for it but that didn't cost much either (ebay again). Took me all of 60 seconds to get it setup perfectly too!! Thanks for the info about these holo sights, I was going to get a red dot or illuminted reticle sight but this is so much better and easier to use - not to mention the lot cost me less than £40 including shipping. Drozd NewBoy | ||||
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zore 18:25:33 Sat Jul 15 2006 Offline 432 posts BBMG Lieutenant General ***  Reply |
I thrid that punch!
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vstk57 13:39:39 Sat Jul 15 2006 Offline 101 posts BBMG Colonel Reply |
I am thrilled to hear that other Drozd owners have purchased the holographic sight and are as impressed with the build quality and optical effect as I was.
These sights are equal in image quality to the 400 dollar Eotech version used by military and law-enforcement. They are not as rugged ,due to their largely alloy construction and open optical arrangement ,but the optical effect and image are identical. You can use the CR-16 batteries(2 required) or a single CR-32 (preferred), but be careful to make a note of turning the intensity knob back to zero when putting the gun away.I have gone through a number of batteries because I forgot to turn the sight off. The laser diode in these sights draw a fair amount of current and will drain the battery very quickly. Other than that, they are an unbeatable deal for under 50 dollars and are a good match for the Drozd's range,accuracy and mode of fire. | ||||
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radical  02:12:57 Thu Jul 13 2006 Offline 5232 posts BBMG LIFER  Reply |
I second that punch!
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Blurted 04:23:27 Wed Jul 12 2006 Offline 370 posts BBMG Major General **  Reply |
Thanks man. Yea, the front grip is a folder. JimC's barrel gives the Drozd alot more punch.
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jkdrozd  04:11:47 Wed Jul 12 2006 Offline 615 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
wow, you must be happy, that is one sweet setup you put together there Blurted, the front vertical grip looks like a folder too huh? nice i like that, nice clean lines to it
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Blurted 03:33:32 Wed Jul 12 2006 Offline 370 posts BBMG Major General ** Reply |
Yup, the site is a weaver mount. Here is a pic of it attatched. The adapter came in today.
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jkdrozd 23:03:42 Tue Jul 11 2006 Offline 615 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
thx blurted,
that one looks nice, plus has a couple extras like the lense cover that's useful to have...thx for the link you provided, oh quick question for ya, you're not able to use the mounting set-up that comes with it??? is it because the mount is too wide for the drozd rail?? ltr, jimk | ||||
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Blurted 17:43:08 Tue Jul 11 2006 Offline 370 posts BBMG Major General ** Reply |
Picked mine up off ebay. Came in last week. Waiting on the dovetail to weaver adapter to come in so I can mount it. The quality is incredible for the price. Even comes with a nice rubber optic cover and lens cloth. Here is the link to the one I have. http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECTRO-Holographic-4-TYPE-Multi-Reticle-Red-Dot-Sight_W0QQitemZ290004923993QQihZ019QQcategoryZ66827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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jkdrozd 05:30:26 Tue Jul 11 2006 Offline 615 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
found it on ebay i think this is the same one??
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jkdrozd 04:56:20 Tue Jul 11 2006 Offline 615 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
could one of you kindly gents w/holographics to provide said link to acquire the one as pictured that OPP and vstk57 have and are enjoying... that site rocks!! ussually i'm blind when i ask for info so i bet it's in this thread and i din't see it maybe...
thx, jimk | ||||
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swedishdwarf 00:36:26 Tue Jul 11 2006 Offline 194 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
Thanks OPP, I would've thrown it away and never known.
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olpistolpacker 22:24:10 Mon Jul 10 2006 Offline 928 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
It is a lithium 2032 or compatible, I believe...but be sure to look under the folded flap of the box it came in to make certain it isn't tucked away up there. I thought mine was batteryless as well and after an Easter egg hunt I was rewarded with power. Love the little thing.
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swedishdwarf 21:37:12 Mon Jul 10 2006 Offline 194 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
I just got one of these in the mail and it didn't come with a battery. Do you guys have a number for the correct battery?
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vstk57 11:58:34 Tue Jun 27 2006 Offline 101 posts BBMG Colonel Reply |
Hello OPP,
Sure, please use the photos. If you plan on raising the scopes position,there is a special dove-tail to Weaver adapter that works perfectly and leaves absolutely no gap whatsoever between the receivers top and the adapter's bottom. Do a search on eBay by entering this Item number: 7234885814. It shows what the tri-rail looks like, and you can contact the seller and buy them new from their store for 20 dollars. The Holo sights are extremely well made and finished,almost like an expensive all metal camera, and I just cant figure out how they are made so inexpensively(China no doubt). Its the latest technology,looks beautiful on the gun (as it perfectly matches the finish), its priced very well, And it works just as advertized: ). They come in a matte chrome finish too ! Cant beat that! The photo shows how the various adapters work,especialy the tri-rail.  | ||||
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Blurted 03:31:13 Tue Jun 27 2006 Offline 370 posts BBMG Major General ** Reply |
Just type in holographic in ebay under airsoft. Just picked one up for 38.99 includes shipping insurance.
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zore 23:33:07 Mon Jun 26 2006 Offline 432 posts BBMG Lieutenant General *** Reply |
Sweet... i must get one of these now...
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swedishdwarf 22:49:36 Mon Jun 26 2006 Offline 194 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
How about a link?
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olpistolpacker 20:09:02 Mon Jun 26 2006 Offline 928 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
Goody goody goody! Thanks, VSTK57. That is EXACTLY the one I ordered. You made me feel all warm and fuzzy since I've just had my fingers crossed since I sent off to Hong Kong for it.
Great info. 'Preciate it bunches. Gonna put your pic's in the Resource CD under "Optics" unless you object. | ||||
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vstk57 14:28:06 Mon Jun 26 2006 Offline 101 posts BBMG Colonel Reply |
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vstk57 13:33:22 Mon Jun 26 2006 Offline 101 posts BBMG Colonel Reply |
These are excellent sights and I wont use any other on a Drozd. I have 3 of them now. This is the theory as to how they work: The shooter acquires the target object through a relatively large viewing screen. The screen is comprised of a partially reflective dielectric type mirror that allows the transmission of light images towards the eye (target image). Built into the rear body of the sight is a red laser diode and 4 small switch-selectable transmission holograms. The laser projects the selected hologram on to the back of the viewing screen's mirrored surface This specially coated surface will not let the red laser's specific frequency/wavelength to pass through the mirror,but instead reflects it's crisp image back to the shooter's eye. That's why the reticle pattern is not projected beyond, nor seen from the front optic. Only the shooter sees the combined images of both the reticle-hologram and target object in the screen. There are currently 2 versions of this sight,each with its own group of 4 reticles. One of the models displays only a dot,but the dot selectable between 4 different sizes. I have illustrated a couple of ways to mount them very neatly. You can get a BKL ultralow-profile weaver to dovetail adapter that lifts the sight less than 1/8th off the frame, while perfectly clearing the back sight. Looks like it was made for the Drozd : )) The other,should you want the sight a little higher,is to add a small tri-rail which is dove tail on the bottom and converts to weaver on the top. Both sides are all dove-tailed as well [EMAILl]  [/EMAIL] | ||||
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swedishdwarf 01:19:26 Thu Jun 22 2006 Offline 194 posts BBMG Brigadier General * Reply |
For those of you wondering about red dot sights, cheaper than dirt has one on sale for $24 that comes with a free 80 lb. crossbow.
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dbeta 02:47:45 Sun Jun 18 2006 Offline 53 posts BBMG Sergeant Reply |
OPP
Duh. Forgot to add that the true Holographic sights utilize a real 'laser' internally to generate the 3d spatial image of the projected 'dot'. Other sights simply use a light source and fiber optics to illuminate a small piece of ground glass. So, a 'Holographic' sight is also necessarily a 'laser' sight and they are so marked. The laser however is not what is projected...only the percieved image...the laser is what creates the 3d hologram. From the target, there is no 'red dot'... if you look at the gun from the barrel end you won't see a thing. | ||||
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olpistolpacker 02:07:03 Sun Jun 18 2006 Offline 928 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
You guys are GREAT! Love the reservoir of information held within this group.
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dbeta 00:38:40 Sun Jun 18 2006 Offline 53 posts BBMG Sergeant Reply |
Should add that once you've tried a holographic sight,
especially if you wear glasses....you'll never go back to anything else!! | ||||
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dbeta 00:32:38 Sun Jun 18 2006 Offline 53 posts BBMG Sergeant Reply |
OPP
Most 'red dot' sights are simply an illuminated dot on an optical plane within the sight. You still pretty much have to look through the sight plane to see the dot centered..and your eye must either be focused on the sight plane (dot), or the target. They do work well, but they are different from a hologram. In a true holographic sight, the dot appears to be projected on the same plane as the target, so both eyes are focused on the target and the dot looks as if it's also way out in front of the gun...at the target as opposed to on the gun. They work the same way the sights in the "HUD" in a fighter plane do. The pilot is seeing his targeting data out in front the plane and not on the instrument panel. Think of it as kind of a "3D" sight. They are very, very good sights...but pricey. I've seen em on ebay for $180 or so. Probably overkill for a bbgun. I'm going to try mine on the Drozd as soon as I get a longer barrel and see how it works. BTW, I also found a couple of new sights from Pentax that will probably out perform the Chinese models for about the same price. Check www.riflescopes.com Look for the Pentax HS10.....$49.95....but very good quality from a good company. | ||||
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olpistolpacker 23:10:04 Sat Jun 17 2006 Offline 928 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
Thanks to you, too, Cannon. That's encouraging for my BB gun budget...only a few more aluminum cans to pick up and I can afford one of those. I can even get 2 cents per pound for used BB's.
But, dbeta, help us out here, what is a true holographic sight? My ignorant understanding was that they projected a dot onto the screen in the same way the red dot type sights do. Now that you mention it, I've seen covers for the expensive rigs that cover everything but the screen so how do they work as opposed to the one pictured below? Anybody? | ||||
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The_Cannon 20:41:46 Sat Jun 17 2006 Offline 34 posts BBMG Corporal Reply |
OPP
That sight in the picture is the exact one I have I believe. I got it on Ebay from Hong Kong for about $37. I really like it. It fits perfectly on the Drozd rail, its accuracy is well within the limits of what the gun can do, and it is bright enough for broad daylight. I like the simple crosshair reticle the best. I usually aim with both eyes open. I also like that the batteries are cheap and common, because once in a while I leave the sight powered up overnight....whoops. I have not owned the more expensive variety so maybe I don't know what I am missing, but I did compare mine with some $50 to $100 sights at a gun store and liked mine better (mostly because of the big window, no knobs on top, etc....) Anyway it probably sounds like I own stock in the company or something, but I really do like the sight, and at that price anyone with a Drozd should think about it. C. | ||||
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dbeta 19:26:13 Sat Jun 17 2006 Offline 53 posts BBMG Sergeant Reply |
Also should mention that I'm fairly certain that these two companies
make the only 'true' holographic sights available. | ||||
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olpistolpacker 19:22:28 Sat Jun 17 2006 Offline 928 posts BBMG General **** Reply |
Thanks dbeta. Great info. That's what I'm looking for.
Now, since I'm looking for something that won't shoot a hundred yards and probably would be happy getting a 4" group at 25 feet do you think a less expensive rig might work on a Drozd for our type of spray shooting? Here is a cheapie from Hong Kong with no real brand name. It is about $37.00 including shipping. I've had good luck with other cheap Chinese products. What say you out there? Anybody else? Helllloooooooo. When you get through mowing the lawn or finished with your downtown tour of Two Guns, Arizona, give a post, will ya?  | ||||
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dbeta 19:20:26 Sat Jun 17 2006 Offline 53 posts BBMG Sergeant Reply |
OPP, I've got an Eosight mounted on a Ruger PC .40 carbine
which I use at night around here for coyotes and personal protection, as I'm in the boonies about 3 miles from the Mex. border. It'll place a five shot group in about 4" at a hundred yards consistantly, which isn't bad for a pistol round in a short barrel. Brightness of the dot adjusts to work in broad daylight to full darkness and runs on N cells. These sights areactually holographic and do give the illusion of a dot projected out in front of the gun...target acquisition is quite fast. They're also expensive. Bushnell sells the identical sight under their name without the metal shroud. These go for about $250, and the Eo's are about $375+. If you have the $$$ no reason it wouln't work just fine. They do however sit rather high on the gun, as the battery compartment and electronics are housed beneath the optics. I don't find it a problem as it keeps your head up. Wherever your dot is is where the round goes...IOW the dot isn't necessarily centered in the glass nor does your eye need to be aligned to the sight...if you see the dot anywhere in the front of you..you've got a shot, unlike other dot sights. BTW, I've been looking at the ATN Compact Digital dot sight...for one of my Drozd'z. | ||||
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