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Mickael
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Well that's good to know, it can handle 1200psi, I think I will order one next week and an adapter from Jim and follow your full auto mod, although it says on the website it is full auto? confused ... lol anywhooo I see allot of potential for this gun :smile:

How much are the adapters from Jim, Cam?

Oh yeah forgot ... around how much Rpm do you guess the full auto to be .. 400-600 rpm ish???
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Interesting you should ask....!

Today I tried to put JimC's Steel Storm bulk air adapter on the Steel Force magazine. It fit just fine! I put the adapter on the front CO2 well, but I think it will work just as well on the rear one.

So, I hooked up my HPA tank. My 90c.i. Ninja Carbon fiber. This tank is regulated to 1240psi as tested today. It shot like a "champ" all afternoon!! I am not going to test above that pressure, so don't ask...:wink: I don't wanna break the innards and hurt myself. ....YOU try higher psi. I'll wait to hear how it holds up...:tongue:

So, I have to say, as expected, the HPA is awesome as usual. I shot 330 bb's on the 90c.i. tank and the pressure fell only to about 1150psi. This bb gun seems to sip air, but is still very powerful. I believe that I can port the valve for better velocity, but I really don't care to. It's fun enough as it is!

Gotta say again, ...LOVE IT! You will too. Fun as hell's heaven to shoot!

---Cam




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Mickael
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I might buy one :smile: Those look like some fun

What kind of PSI could you pump into this gun you think with HPA?
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camracer
23:38:53 Wed
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Here's my Steel Force with a few add-ons. Got the Fab Defense T-pod foregrip, Nexstar green laser, and a Tru-Glo holo sight. ...Cool!!





Gotta say, I was impressed with the accuracy at 30 feet. 2" groupings all afternoon! It's power is great. Advertised at 430fps. I have to say, it sure feels close to that in the 75 degree weather I was shooting in today. I've got to give it a chrony test soon.

I got an incredible 270 shots out of the dual CO2 mag! Wow. very nice!! Those were very usable shots too. Easily able to set off exploding targets!!:wink: I did allow time between bb mag fills to set the CO2 mag in the sun to warm a bit. I don't know if extra CO2 mags are available yet, but I recommend buying a few extras so you can rotate them for warming them up. JimC's bulk adapter is highly recommended! HPA testing to come tomorrow!!!

With the extra CO2 mags, I would have to say this rifle is a perfect "critter-gitter" It has plenty of power to do the job, and once the Fully-Auto mod is done the critters wont have a chance in hell! HooRAH!

So who's next to get one????:smash:

---Cam



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...and grind off this piece on the end:


It will look like this when done:




Re-install it and you mag will now just drop out!




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The magazine has a safety catch to keep the mag from completely dropping out when the mag release is pushed. That is annoying! It SHOULD just drop out like any real rifle. ......Another mod I did right away was to remove that "catch".

On the mag, this "lip" here....


....catches on this "lip" here:


Remove the trigger guard piece here:


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camracer
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Here's a look at the interior. Note the metal receiver is very similar to the Steel Storm:





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camracer
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Ok, got it in the mail this morning.

Here's the review folks:

Love it! ...all done.:tongue:

Heh, well, I gave it a thorough testing. But not before I took it completely apart. As I suspected when I saw it in the Las Vegas Shot show footage, I thought it was going to have the same inner workings as the Steel Storm with just a different shell. Yep. One in the same.

It has the same dual CO2 mag set-up as the Storm. That's really good! That means that JimC's bulk CO2 adapter WILL work for this rifle as well as the Storm!! The mags are NOT interchangeable though.

Since the innards are the same as the SS, I went ahead and modded it for fully auto before I tested it out. The same parts are removed as the SS. Here is my link to do that mod:
http://bb.bbboy.net/straferbbmachinegunownersgroup-viewthread?forum=5&thread=142

The shell is fully plastic like the SS. The big plus in this design is that it is modded after the AR-15. Anyone who owns an AR knows all the "stuff" you can add to it. (Am I right Radical??)

Don't expect this rifle to be the next Drozd. It'll never compare, but I sure had a great afternoon shooting it!

It is advertised as having a 300 round reservoir with a 30 round magazine. I was able to stuff 352 bb's in there including the loaded 30 round mag. I can see that there is the potential to make the reservoir hold much more than that. I estimate it can be made to hold close to 900 bb's if some plastic is cut away. See this photo. I am pointing at these "45 degree trusses" that could be removed to allow for more capacity:
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camracer
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This rifle was first introduced at the 2013 Shot Show in Las Vegas in January. Been waiting for it to hit the market, as it just did today! Check it out:



Pyramid Air has them:
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Umarex_Steel_Force_CO2_BB_Gun/3105

430fps, single shot or 6 round burst. Uses two CO2 bulbs just like the Steel Storm. I am certain the mechanics inside are the same as the Steel Storm, ...sooo that means a fully auto mod coming soon!!

I'll have mine on Monday June 3rd and I'll get to work on it and post photos and a review.

Anyone else gonna grab one??

Let the modding/customizing begin!!!:smash:

---Cam
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