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Board/user anomilies ( 17:07:40 TueFeb 25 2003 )

Many problems associated with my user ID.
I have Cable. I have been user a different loggin name for the past several weeks to see if our anomilies stop. They have. I log in under my original name and they're back. I close down my Explorer at night and at approx 5:am PST somebody logs in/roams around under my name and is shutting off our donation link. There are only two people with Admin. status.
I know for a fact it isn't me. I am sleeping at the time it is occuring. My wife is sleeping at the time it is occuring. My 5yo is sleeping while it is occuring. The only thing running at the time is my computer. All windows are closed.
On the board our names are lised in two places. On the top of the board when I click it, it gives me an error 404. This is supposed to log me off. On the bottom of the board I click my name and it log's me off, when it is supposed to give me my bio. After I'm logged off I can go back into the site and click my name that is still present and then get my bio.
The first problem is really the big problem. Any suggestions? This has also occured when I have shut my system off for the night. It has stopped when I logged out and had cookies turned off.

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 20:49:11 TueFeb 25 2003 )

I remember this situation from pnoon's reporting this. The only thing I can think of is that somehow your system has been compromised because the log clearly showed your name doing the donation disabling. Do you run some form of internet security program? Or have a firewall? If not Jim I highly suggest you get something in place immediately because that is the only way if you're asleep and no one else in your home is using the computer-that is the only thing I can think of that could explain this repeated appearance of your username doing things you would not want done. If you have the program or one like it-PC anywhere, I would suggest you uninstall it and never use it again because that is one way 'hackers' can infiltrate your system. This is not something on our end I'm sorry to say, it just can not be a random action logged without a person behind the username performing the logged action-just not possible. Let us know if we can help you-but I suggest you look at your own system to find the culprit and doorway that someone is using to disrupt the Blue Oval board. :ohwell:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 20:49:41 TueFeb 25 2003 )

Hi JimJ.

Taking the donation issue first, it was established in late January that it was indeed you that was disabling this feature - there are log entries that prove that and they all emanate from your IP#.

At the time we thought maybe you were doing it without realising it. However, in view of what you say about difficulties with your account, I'm wondering if there is some connection.

By the way, I can assure you that nobody else is accessing your account. Between the dates January 24th and February 25th, your account was not used at all and all actions logged under your username come from the same IP#.

From the symptoms you describe, I believe the problem is likely to be at your end - with either your browser or computer settings. If you could tell us what OS and browser you are using, that might help us pin down the problem. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 21:01:16 TueFeb 25 2003 )

One thing you should defintely do is to delete any Best Boards cookie(s) on your system (they may have become corrupted). A new one will be generated as soon as you log in again. You will find these in the Windows/Temp/Cookies folder.

If you're not having any difficulties with the alternate username you've been using, it's just possible that the "JimJ" account has become corrupted. If that proves to be the case, it would be best to abandon it and use your other one permanently - you or pnoon can easily assign admin powers to it. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 21:25:47 TueFeb 25 2003 )

Just re-reading your original post:

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On the board our names are lised in two places. On the top of the board when I click it, it gives me an error 404. This is supposed to log me off. On the bottom of the board I click my name and it log's me off, when it is supposed to give me my bio. After I'm logged off I can go back into the site and click my name that is still present and then get my bio.
The first problem is really the big problem. Any suggestions? This has also occured when I have shut my system off for the night. It has stopped when I logged out and had cookies turned off.


The top link where it says "Welcome, JimJ" is indeed the logout link - if you are getting a 404 error, that would tend to suggest that you don't have javascript enabled on your computer. Yet you say you have no problems with your other account. Have you perhaps changed some settings?

The name at the bottom of the board is actually a link to your profile in the "Who's Online" box - it would always be accessible, whether you were logged in or not.

If you are "turning cookies off", that might also contribute to the problem. Anyway, as suggested earlier, if you can tell us your OS and browser type and version, that might give us some clues. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 22:27:55 TueFeb 25 2003 )

I think I can shed some light on OS and Browser. I actually visited his house and looked at his computer. He is running Win 98 and is using I.E 6.0. He is on a cable modem. I do not beilieve he has any of the PC anywhere programs installed on his pc. We completely cleared all of his cookies and reset his web browser to default settings to include Java Script. JimJ will correct me if I am wrong, but I think this info is right. He had no issues with the other user id because I did not give him Admin rights on that account, therefor the disable link would not have been accessable to him under that user id. Next thing we can try is to grant admin under his other id and watch to see what happens.

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 22:31:38 TueFeb 25 2003 )

That might be a good way to test this out pnoon. Do you know if he has any type of security system set up? Norton Internet Security, a firewall of some kind? If he does then I would think it would have caught any potential 'intruders' to his system. :wink:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 00:05:48 WedFeb 26 2003 )

pnoon, since that "housekeeping" was done, has the donations box been disabled again? :smile:

JimJ, you mentioned this:

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I close down my Explorer at night and at approx 5:am PST somebody logs in/roams around under my name and is shutting off our donation link.


How do you know that it happens at that time?

I'm sure someone has already mentioned this to you, but just in case they didn't, you do realise that just clicking on the text that says "Disable" will do just that - it's not necessary to go into the Admin Center to disable it. Often people click a link and don't realise at the time that they did something by doing so. For instance, if you click on "Vis" it will change your status to "Anon" and vice versa. :smile:


  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 00:08:35 WedFeb 26 2003 )

hmm this is a bit out of my league but if this is happening would it be possible for that person to insert packet sniffers in there? I'm hoping not.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 00:13:25 WedFeb 26 2003 )

I don't know what a packet sniffer is-but if you're asking can someone stick in something on someone's system UNRELATED TO BBBOARD-I am referring to hacking a unprotected system, then yet-someone can stick backdoor crap and trojans you name it! That is why I was asking about Security programs. :wink: There is no way someone would or COULD do that here on a board and access someone's computer-just nto possible. BbAdminMod and BbBoy will attest to that-our security here is very tight. :lol:

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 00:24:47 WedFeb 26 2003 )

I wasn't asking about his board. I'm wondering if someone can get access to his computer (if I'm understanding the conversation correctly) if they can put a sniffer in there. I believe those can detect passwords of anything on the computer when used. ?? I think.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 01:27:14 WedFeb 26 2003 )

JimJ, if you haven't got an antivirus program installed on your computer, then you should get one asap, as well as a firewall, for your own protection. There are some nasty viruses and trojans out there. Running those programs will find a trojan if there's one on your computer.

Having said that, I really doubt that a hacker has gained access to your computer, because as far as we know, all that has happened is that the donations box has been disabled. It would take a pretty odd sort of hacker to restrict his actions to something as minor (comparatively speaking) as that! :smile:


  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 02:06:46 WedFeb 26 2003 )

Sorry TDB, I wanted to make sure anyone reading this after us knew what was and is not possible. :wink:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 14:23:51 WedFeb 26 2003 )

I do believe that JimJ is running Zone Alarm for a firewall and yes he does have Mcafee Antivirus installed...I also installed Ad Aware...this is a program that identifies snooper software on your system and then allows you to clean/rid your system of them. We have been trying everything to identify this problem on our own, then yesterday I ask JimJ to post it here. Again, I will have him use his alternate ID and see what happens with that. Thanks for all the input!!

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 14:27:40 WedFeb 26 2003 )

One more thing....there was a question asked about if this was still happening after the houskeeping was done...the answer is yes.

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 18:55:47 WedFeb 26 2003 )

Ok pnoon, we will look into this deeper for you and Jim. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 19:49:46 WedFeb 26 2003 )

I think under the circumstances, it might be an idea to abandon the JimJ username and use the other one, at least temporarily. If that name operates (with admin powers) with no problems, then it will prove the original is somehow corrupt.

If, on the other hand, there are problems with the new name as well, that will point to problems on Jim's computer. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 20:14:01 WedFeb 26 2003 )

I agree BbAdminMod. I definitely think that using the new name for awhile and observing the days you're on and checking the log to see what happened if it happens again then reporting to us if this continues under the new name. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 18:39:25 FriFeb 28 2003 )

Aye Corrumba. Don't look in for a couple of days, and a plethera of activity. Thank-You Phil for keeping up on the activity in here. I would have to refer most of the tech issues to you anyway. For the most part to answer some of the question, If its broke I can't fix it. I have Phil stop by.
I have been pretty good about loging out while using my JimJ name, and it seems to be working. The odd thing about the hacker is it is typically happening at 05:00.
While using my new name it doesn't appear to happen at all. My new name doesn't have ADMIN authority though, so that isn't a big suprise.
Is there a way to make my login a cookieless log in each time without having to click on 'cookieless login'. I think this is the only board I have to click cookieless login to make sure I put in my password each time. Every other board has me click to place a cookie for login.

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 01:42:28 SatMar 1 2003 )

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The odd thing about the hacker is it is typically happening at 05:00.


Two things, Jim:

(1) we are pretty sure it's not a "hacker" as it would be pretty strange behavior for him to just disable donations and not do any other mischief! :smile:

(2) How do you know the actions occurred at that time you mention? Sometimes times are recorded in the timezone of the server and sometimes in the timezone of the user.

It's been suggested that admin powers be given to your other name and that you abandon the current one, temporarily at least - I still think this is the best idea.

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Is there a way to make my login a cookieless log in each time without having to click on 'cookieless login'. I think this is the only board I have to click cookieless login to make sure I put in my password each time. Every other board has me click to place a cookie for login


"Cookieless login' is not recommended except in special circumstances - it will log you out any time you go to another board or even to your User CP. Whether you have to enter your password manually each time or whether it's entered automatically for you, is strictly a browser issue - not a cookie one.

Normally it's not necessary to log out at all - I never do, except if I need to test something with another username. It's perfectly safe to stay logged in, unless your computer could be accessed by someone else. In your case, as it's a home situation, it's OK.

There's another precaution you can take to make sure nobody else can log in with your username. You can check the box in the Security section of the User CP which says "Log me in only once". This means that if you are logged in, nobody, including you yourself, can log in as you from another location. :smile:




  

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