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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 07:31:59 SatMar 1 2003 )

I'm gonna try this log in only once for a couple of days to see what happens.

The time is the recorded time of the occurence. I am assuming it is 05:00, since it is the time listed in the history. Once again it is an Assumption.

It does seem strange that is the only thing that a hacker would do. I can't explain any other circumstance. Phil noticed it and asked if I'd clicked it off. I told him if I did it was completely unintentional if I did. He reset it, and it hapened again the next morning. He told me the time it happened, and I was sleeping at the posting time in the history. A couple of times Phil had reset the donation and I hadn't been to the site and it had been toggled off. I believe one of the times I was away for the weekend. Kinda hard to dink around with the site with no access where I was at. I could only assume it was a hacker of some sort.

Most of my problems started after I made a mistake on a website name. I had to shut off my computer due to the agressive nature of the site. Problems started after that. Heres a hint to all, If it is an Organization like a Library, don't type in .com after the name use .org.

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 08:16:23 SatMar 1 2003 )


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The time is the recorded time of the occurence. I am assuming it is 05:00, since it is the time listed in the history. Once again it is an Assumption


Actually, disabling the donations is not listed in the board logs, only in the server log. So there's no way you or anyone else could have known exactly what time(s) these actions occurred. :smile:

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I told him if I did it was completely unintentional if I did.


Is it at all possible that you did? It doesn't require you to go to the Admin Center, only that you click your mouse on the link that says "disable". The "anon" and "vis" links work the same way and you could easily "toggle" them without realising it. :smile:

I think it's extremely unlikely (though not completely impossible) that visiting a website, would cause your computer system to be compromised. I can assure you that you'd have lots more symptoms and problems than the one we're talking about here.

Anyway, let's try the suggestions I've outlined in my last post - give your other username admin powers and start using that one instead of your current one. Once you've done that, remove the admin powers from the JimJ name as a precaution. If all goes well with the new name, then that will be a satisfactory outcome. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 23:09:40 SatMar 1 2003 )

I'm gonna try that now. It has been toggled off again. Like I mentioned before, it MIGHT have been possible once, but I made sure it was still active when I shut down for the night. There were times I was gone for the weekend playing weekend warrior, so I couldn't do it. Family not on while I was gone. I will modify my new name and deactivate the old one.
The only one person logon at a time didn't help.

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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 17:48:30 SunMar 2 2003 )

FYI...I know for a fact that you can get a virus from going to a website, because it happened to me once ( and it wasn't already on my computer, because my computer checks for viruses at startup )...I have avg anitvirus, and I went to a website (about a movie star) and my whole screen went red and said that there was a virus, needless to say, it scared the you know what out of me!
I also can't use a firewall if I use IE6, I can't an error when I go to pages...I now use the Avant Browser (to avoid pop ups)...going to get me a new firewall right now! Thanks for the advice!

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 17:57:57 SunMar 2 2003 )

I`ve had that happen too Junglegirljlt, my comp just went blank and I had to get a new one as the damage was too bad, nothing could be retrieved.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 18:09:25 SunMar 2 2003 )

It's too weird, isn't it? freaked me out to say the least....

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 20:28:54 SunMar 2 2003 )

LOl how do you think I felt, my comp never recovered!

it`s bad that you go to a site and just get hit like that, I know who did what was done, they were from ******, should I say that? but it wasn`t an ****** site that it was on.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 20:36:07 SunMar 2 2003 )

Mine wasn't either, strange thing is that I was on google looking for something about a certain actor and I click on what sites google found and lo and behold...big red screen!

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 03:34:54 MonMar 3 2003 )

You've mentioned viruses, and you can get some quite nasty ones from webpages, but what we're talking about here is a trojan, whereby a hacker is actually able to access the computer as if he were actually sitting in front of it. Trojans normally come via email. :smile:

I would hazard a guess, Thunderpants, that your problem might have been unrelated to viewing the website, but simply coincidental - it's more likely that you had a hardware failure. :smile:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 04:05:19 MonMar 3 2003 )

nasty trojans...

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 09:46:18 MonMar 3 2003 )

well all I can say is there are lots of explanations until you look at the goods.
I know what happened, but thanks for the input.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 22:03:10 MonMar 3 2003 )


Thought this info might help.I find it helpful at times..Hope it helps some JimJ :smile:

How often you will detect scans depends upon your connection type and how long you are connected.


cable-modemsScanned/attacked several times per day. It depends upon the cable-modem segment you are on, but some people are getting attacked as much as 20 times per day. We believe scans are so common because hackers know that virtually all cable-modems are in the range 24.x.x.x. We suspect that those in the low range of 24.1.x.x receive more than those in higher ranges (i.e. 24.94.x.x).
DSL modems
Varies widely, some are only about once per week, others receive a couple per day. We suspect that some DSL ranges are better known among hackers, and therefore get attacked more.
Dial-up modems
This varies widely, though you should see a scan against your system about once per month. It depends upon how often you are online, and what ISP you use. Since some hackers "camp" on IP addresses (waiting for people to dial-up), you are most likely to be scanned within a few minutes after you connect to the Internet.

The traditional hacker technique is to post Trojan Horse programs on the Internet in newsgroups, on websites, or within e-mail spam. The hackers then run 'bots (robots) that scan huge portions of the Internet in order to see who has been infected with their programs.

Since any individual scanner is probing millions of potential victims, the likelihood is that the average user will get scanned every so often. However, most hackers want to compromise machines with fast, 24-hour connections like cable modems and DSL. Therefore, they target well-known address ranges, like 24.x.x.x, that support these high speed connections.

The most common TCP-based trojan horses detected by the intrusion-detection engine are listed below.
TCP port Trojan horse name
555 Phase Zero
1243 Sub 7
6969 GateCrasher
12345 Netbus (default port)
21544 GirlFriend
, 23456 EvilFtp
, 30100 NetSphere
54320 Back Orifice 2000 (default port)

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 05:31:45 TueMar 4 2003 )

Thanks for posting that info, DD. :smile:

Just so that people don't get the wrong idea about scans - they in themselves are harmless - it's only if you have a Trojan on your computer that you have to worry, as a scan will detect its presence and then you're in trouble!

To protect yourself, do the following:
  • If you haven't got one, purchase an anti-virus program - do it today!
  • Either get the firewall accessory that's put out by your anti-virus program provider or get Zone Alarm (which is free for a personal, no frills version)
  • Never open an email attachment unless you are 100% certain it's from someone you know and you are expecting it.
  • Don't download freeware or shareware programs from the Net, unless you are 100% certain they are reputable - i.e. recommended by someone you trust
  • Don't allow strangers (or the neighbor's kids) to play with your computer - some people have strange ideas about what is fun!
  • If the website you've landed on looks at all suspicious, close the browser window immediately and run a virus check at once.
A simple website can't hurt you, but an executable on it can - java applet, javascript, etc.

If you follow the above guidelines and exercise normal, sensible care, you should be safe enough. Be advised that Hotmail is vulnerable to hacking (and probably MSN too, as they come from the same stable). It's far safer really to use your ISP's email account facility. If you travel a lot, fair enough - Hotmail is great. However most ISP's allow you to have some form of redirect if you are going overseas and will be staying in one place.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 14:29:47 TueMar 4 2003 )

Yes scans are simply done for the hacker to see which if any ports are open so they can intrude your system. Tipically they ping you to see if you have any service on your system that will respond to the ping but the first stage of any attack is "reconnaissance": scanning the victims looking for ways into their systems.
As stated above the "only" way to protect your PC is to get a firewall, a good one at that. If you don't want to purchase one then ZoneAlarm would be your best bet but I would recommend purchaseing a good one. They can be as cheap as $19.99 and have more features then the free versions. Never run any .exe or open attachments that are executable. Keep in mind also that even if you know the person they are coming from that that person may not know they have a virus and could be passing it to you. So use a firewall and a virus protection. And yes Hotmail and MSN are availabe for hackers, they love it actually..the messanger can also be used against you in MSN.
Not to panic anyone..just thought it might help with any questions to the whole hacking ideas that came up earlier.
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 02:28:11 WedMar 5 2003 )

can a firewall be used with Internet Explorer? Mine never did, nor will it work with the Avant Browser...

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 12:14:42 WedMar 5 2003 )

I have IE JG it works just fine :wink:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 15:32:24 WedMar 5 2003 )

Yes..I have IE and a great Firewall! They work fine 2gether. :wink:

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 23:36:16 WedMar 5 2003 )

I always get page not found when I have my firewall up....

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 00:17:58 ThuMar 6 2003 )

I know with our firewall if you have it on the highest setting we will get that - you can't see any pages. We had to lower it to more of a medium level if that makes sense to be able to still access what we were after.

  
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Re: Board/user anomilies ( 02:27:54 ThuMar 6 2003 )

why, thank you! I'll have to check and see what setting I have it on....

  

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