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Rod_Seiad
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 15:34:10 SunAug 7 2011 )

Make a report to the sheriff. Do the right thing.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 23:07:12 SunAug 7 2011 )

YellowFever,

Don't listen to roomers out on the Rogue.

If this property owner approaches you personally, or you see him cut your dredge lose, then I would contact the Sheriff and make a report.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 00:26:00 MonAug 8 2011 )

YellowFever is referring to yesterday when ? & ? who have a 6" single sluice D&K dredge had words with home owners wife, they normally park their boat 16' jet boat up by ? & ? 4" and walk down on land to dredge, but yesterday lady home owner was out sitting in hammock next to river and they tried to park where they normally do which is in front of hammock....she was mad they were blocking her view with boat....?...had words with her and husband home owner came out and had words with ? & ?...things got heated and home owner said in anger I'll cut all the dredges loose if I have to...? & ? the day before Had parked there dredge 20 feet away from this home owners water pump and there discharge from the 6" was directed straight at the pump, so home owner put up a new sign staighting that any dredging with in 300' of his pump would be held liable if there is damage to their pumps, I believe it’s a warning...saying you damage it you fix it.
I noticed today other home owners putting up same signs at water edge.
I believe its possible to co-exist with home owners and their pumps...my boys and I have for 48 days. We had a problem with same home owner when a friend of mine came down for a day to kill fish with pole , he sat on land didn’t cast out just watched for 8 hours and at end of day when doing our clean up home owner came out and talked to me about fishing(killing fish)on bank is not allowed I said: yes sir my good friend came down from Redmond Oregon just for the day and it won’t happen again we will stay 100% of land next time...sorry, yes I kiss _ss, and didn’t have any more issues. We tie anchor in two spots in water and two places on trees and never walk on dry land and they say nothing to us....Home owner did say thank you for not dredging next to his pump I said no problem so we have stayed downriver from it, we either walk in water to get to dredge or we motor boat directly to it.

I too said call Sheriff and get report filled to ? & ? but they shrugged there shoulders and said today’s our last day any ways.... that’s pretty much it.

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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 03:11:49 WedAug 10 2011 )

Edited the post....people are angry about names in post, sorry...so??

johnnye4

  
YellowFever
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 03:19:15 WedAug 10 2011 )

I have had trouble before with home owners and if he causes any problems I will make the call, but for now I'm trying my best to live and let live.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 03:40:19 WedAug 10 2011 )

Monday am found that my fulface[black] w/reg was missing. I'm 99.9% sure that I put it in a in a bucket along with other tools an hood an gloves. The mask was the only thing missing, this is # 2 as some one stole one last year around the point of the Island at Gold Ray Dam..1% if anyone finds one foatin down river PM me. Thanks.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 02:30:35 ThuAug 11 2011 )

I seen the chopper today he was counting the dredges on the river.

  
johnnye4
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 04:19:09 ThuAug 11 2011 )

YellowFever, did you get numbers of chopper for tracking id?

johnnye4

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 05:23:40 ThuAug 11 2011 )

R.P.G

  
YellowFever
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 15:11:02 ThuAug 11 2011 )

I dint get any #'s as I am almost blind without my glasses.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 15:58:17 FriAug 12 2011 )

We were dredging the past week just below that sign. Unfortunately no gold. The owner did not say anything to us but Wed a dredge was tied up to that tree. Thurs morning the homeowner was down there looking at it. He did not touch it and it is still there. I think he should be challenged on his stripping of all the vegetation down to the water. In Calif DFG would be knocking on my door for destruction of the riparian area.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 00:04:24 SatAug 13 2011 )

Ya, if home owners had power down to water line....we dredgers would be talked to by sheriff.

Brett1....High water mark is typical not down to where we are dredging....back when I had a home in 2008 in Redmond Oregon I received warnings that if I didn’t cut down vegetation between my property and road I would receive a ticket and also pay cost for it to be cut down professionally, this was city property not mine but city put responsibility of care on home owners, that is likely what is going on in goldhill OR with them cutting down and mowing down vegetation between there high-water property line and normal water-line space.

johnnye4

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 07:09:35 FriAug 19 2011 )

Try to get along if you can. Most homeowners on the Rogue still upset about the State winning the decision of where the the true property line is located.

This why I didn't buy on Rogue River, State owns from middle to high water mark, I believe being appealed, last decision still holds.

On the clearing of bush or any vegetation at water line is a permitted basis with the State in Oregon too.

The Josephine County Marine Patrol reports flow rate in certain areas at 50% higher rate than normal for this time of year.

Be safe, when in boat, wear life preserver.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 00:51:47 SatAug 20 2011 )

The water levels are being HEAVILY manipulated on the Rogue and yes you need to be aware at all times!

Mike has been dredging in the rapids since June(ColoNuggets has provided more details on the forum) and for the past 2 weeks I've been video taping the daily surges of water being released upstream.

When they do a release, the intense volume moves perpendicular to the natural rapids, slapping cross waves against the shore and wall of the canyon. From my counts, they are doing approximately 20 releases per day from 8 am until 5pm (the daily hours I was in the water).

Our son John saved a rafter on Thursday who got into instant trouble because of the crazy surges. The lady had been moving down river in her raft and one of the surges came, which instantly threw her raft 90 degrees into the wall of the canyon, scraping her and her her paddle out of the raft and turning the raft over. She clung to the upside down raft while being helplessly swept downstream. We saw this happen in a matter of seconds and John quickly started the Zodiack and flew out into the rapids to get to her and was able to pull her in the boat and get her to safety.

All of this happened so quick it was unreal! Seeing it on land made me understand what is happening underwater where Mike is dredging.

Good gold, dangerous conditions.


  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 03:27:12 SunAug 21 2011 )

we got out early today and there was almost no one on the river, as we went down river and got close to McCraken's dredge there was a huge log headed for it, we managed to divert it from hitting his dredge, but when it made it down river to where we was it clipped my partners dredge. lucky that we was there and it didn't hit it real good because this log probably weighed about 2 tons! I hope that it didn't sink or damage anyone's dredge upriver.

  
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 05:01:22 SunAug 21 2011 )

YellowFever, how did you move 2 tons going down river?:fishwhack:

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colo_nuggets
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 14:51:27 SunAug 21 2011 )

I think we may have saw that log floating by. Good size

  
YellowFever
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Re: trouble on the Rogue ( 15:29:07 SunAug 21 2011 )

we really couldn't move it very much! we pushed it with the boat, just try to do what we can. I did use my 6' bar to break it off some rocks above my dredge that was a work out for the two of us.

  

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