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TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 16:03:02 FriNov 22 2013 )

TEIR translates to TRIBAL enviromania.



http://www.gridleyherald.com/article/20131121/NEWS/131129971/0/FRONTPAGE



Please post your written comments about this before the deadline or you will be acknowledged as being in accord.

Every member ought to have some deep thoughts that should be aired.

  
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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 03:55:39 SatNov 23 2013 )

Here is the address to send your comments to...But why are we commenting about their proposed casino to the tribe?

Karuk Tribe
Attn: Scott Quinn
P.O. Box 1016
Happy Camp, CA 96039





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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 17:47:14 SatNov 23 2013 )

Having seen what happened here in my community, when the local tribe got their casino in about 20 years ago, there is much I could say about the horrible and devastating socio-economic impacts that it has caused locally. But I don't think those concerns are anywhere on the table, or even considered as at issue. I really don't have any specific knowledge of the environmental considerations of the site in question, so any input I might give could only be of uninformed opposition on general principles, or an attempt at some form of retribution. Though tempting to try for some level of satisfaction in that manner, my feeling is that it could do us more harm than good in the long run.

Just my thoughts ... YMMV

  
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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 18:42:02 SatNov 23 2013 )

"any specific knowledge of the environmental considerations"

When has that ever been an issue? That is why they use MAY have environmental considerations

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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 16:41:46 SunNov 24 2013 )

"Though tempting to try for some level of satisfaction in that manner, my feeling is that it could do us more harm than good in the long run."...unreal 49er



What are you afraid of?.......:confused:







  
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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 18:03:38 WedNov 27 2013 )

It Is Bottom of the Ninth
Be advised small mining community, suction dredging is about to disappear permanently in California if PLP does not immediately obtain substantial additional funding. The California outcome will reverberate throughout all of the states with suction dredge mining. If we lose, the radical environmentalists have a roadmap to replicate their success everywhere.

PLPís preliminary injunction arguing irreparable harm to the small miner was denied by our judge despite the fact that a Siskiyou County case found in favor of irreparable harm to the miners. Our trial is again delayed, this time until May 2014.

Our deep pocket opponents: the radical environmentalists; the Karuk Indians; and the State of California; have no financial issues. Their combined effort to delay our case has successfully run PLP out of money. Without additional funding, PLP will not be able to continue hiring legal representation nor pay our share of the estimated $100,000 administrative fees required by the State to compile the complete record of all the previous trials.

There are two ways for miners to never be able to suction dredge in California again: have our judge rule against us on the merit of the case, which is appealable; or PLP failing to show up for the case because we ran out of money, which is not appealable.

Folks, we need a grassroots effort here. PLP is requesting that each club immediately become creative and initiate fund raising opportunities. Designate the resultant funds for our collective legal fight.

PLP is calling on all clubs to immediately encourage each one of their club members to enroll as individual PLP members. The annual individual membership is $35.00. That is only 9.6 cents per day per member. Is there any small miner who cannot afford a dime a day? A family membership for $50.00 is only 14 cents a day. But, why stop there? Imagine what can be done if every small miner gave 30 cents a day. PLP could really go on the offensive and take the small miner fight to the rest of the nation. Thirty cents is just the change that you take out of your pocket and throw into a jar at the end of your day.

Letís be clear fellow miners, suction dredging is only the opening gambit in the admitted radical environmentalist effort to eliminate all prospecting & mining in the country, not just California. Highbanking, sluicing, dry-washing, panning and even metal detecting are all on the chopping block. You need to look no further than Oregon to see that prediction coming true.

For this case, it is the bottom of the ninth inning. We either open our wallets or we permanently lose prospecting and small mining in California. Remember folks, in so many ways where California goes so goes the rest of the nation. If they beat us here, they will beat us everywhere. Letís give the radical environmentalists and the complicit government a legal whopping that they wonít soon forget.

To join or donate to PLP visit www.plp1.org and access USA EPay or send a letter to Public Lands for the People, Inc. at 20929 Ventura Blvd., Ste 47-466,Woodland Hills, CA 91364 or call (909)-889-3939.

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I hope you approve of this post, Dave...:thankyou:

  
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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 05:46:39 ThuNov 28 2013 )

Just to be clear; The New 49'ers are also in this case up to our ears. This is just one of the main cases our legal fund dollars are going to.

There is no doubt that PLP needs miners dollars to continue. And there is no doubt that they and Jerry are doing a good job on the legal field.

But because this is our club forum let's not forget that our club is also in the very same funding situation, and fighting the very same battles.



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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 16:58:26 ThuNov 28 2013 )

Thanks for that Jim. I hesitated making the above post because it might cause some confusion.

My simple-minded thought was merely to remind and rally the troops. All troops are called up to push back the aggressors who are exhausting our resources. The joint effort to win the case is a good thing.

Just say the word and I'll delete the post.


  
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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 19:40:20 ThuNov 28 2013 )

How much clout, political power and legal power could be generated IF all the mining clubs, chapters, organizations and the likes would UNITE under one very strong banner that says loud and strong.....DON'T TREAD ON MINING.....Bury the hatchet guys and gals and unite so we can get back to doing what we love to do....dredging and mining. If something like that doesn't happen soon, we all loose everything. JMO........

  
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Re: TEIR from our locals comes to light ( 02:21:20 ThuDec 12 2013 )

Released today.

http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131211/NEWS/131219930#131219930/?tag=1


Tribal casinos are not required to pay taxes.

Tribal casinos presence increases the felony crimes.

Taxpayers (us) supply all infrastructure and pay the bills.

Jefferson does not want this.

  

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