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@##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 04:41:42 WedAug 29 2007 )

Had my highbanker/dredge pump and motor (1 month old), dive hood, 2 dive masks, airline and regulator stolen last night. New to the area (what a warm welcome to the wife and I, huh?) and have plans to be better prepared next year in several different and PROACTIVE ways to protect my own. The highbanker/drege combo was bought for the wife to keep occupied while I dredged with my 4'' nearby. What I wouldn't give to get my hands on the SOB's.
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 04:59:28 WedAug 29 2007 )

You should post information to identify your stolen equipment. They will have to sell it somewhere and the more people that know what to look for, the better chance you have of catching them and/or recovering your stuff.

Did you notify the police? You should.

It is always a good idea to not leave your equipment right out in the open for everyone to see. My dredge and equipment has sat on the river a lot in when I am not actively dredging the last two years. I make sure my stuff cannot be seen and have had no problems.



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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 13:10:07 WedAug 29 2007 )

Sorry to hear that the thefts have not stopped. Where were you working and where was the equipment stolen from? I had my 5" on the Scott for 2 weeks and had no problem. Like Jim stated I had mine totally out of site. There are a lot of drug users out there that need money.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 05:06:23 ThuAug 30 2007 )

I filed a report with the Sheriff upon my immediate return to camp. I was on the east fork of Elk Creek. I also called Montine and Armadillo Mining and gave them the heads up. It was a month old Honda 6.5 Hp with a p-180 pump. The 2 dive masks are the purge type, one with blue trim and one with light green trim. The 30' airline was bright yellow with the regulator being black with bright blue trim. Dive hood is a bright blue 2XL with a zipper in back. East fork is a fairly remote area that they had to come looking for the rip-off. You had to get out and walk down the trail for a ways to even see our set-up. Not visible from any county or forest service road. Plan on filing a claim with my insurance on Tuesday in Yreka to recoup some of the loss. But the violation will linger for a long time. Like I said, next year the thieves will not have it so easy with my site.
Will have a warm reception all ready for their arrival.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 07:28:58 ThuAug 30 2007 )

My heart gos out to you, those dirty dogs!!! After hearing this report I'm headed out to the garage to spraypaint my stuff all my stuff, becouse the discription you gave of your equipment sounds like everybodys...again my heart go's out to you and your wife for this loss...hope we get these theifing dirt bags!!

johnnye4

  
CHUCKAZ
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 13:14:28 ThuAug 30 2007 )

Sounds like it is time to make our equipment have special marking just for the indivigual miner. I have mine spray painted flourscent green in critical areas and have engraved a 4 digit number on all pieces of the dredge and motors. The engraver was $14 at Home Depot. Hope your insurance covers your loss.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 16:03:37 ThuAug 30 2007 )

Sorry to hear about you getting riped off. Here is what I do to protect my equipment. First I engrave my drivers licence number on "every" part and piece of my equipment. I use 5/16 aircraft cable to lock down my dredge. It can't be cut with a pair of bolt cutters. It just smashes together, they need a special pair of cutters to cut it and these cutters cost over $300.00 dollars. The average thief and drugie don't carry them. I don't leave expensive,easy to carry off items laying out unattended out in the boonies. I eather sleep with my gear or lock it down. My old partner and myself got riped off back in 1981. We had all of our equipment "helicoptered" into the North fork of the Middle fork of the American river 25 miles northeast of Forest Hill Calif. We were so far back in the mountains we thought nobody would ever find us !!! Sleep with it, lock it down or take the chance of getting it stolen.... Jim....

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 17:36:21 ThuAug 30 2007 )

We have a large flea market in the Redding/Anderson area where I have a mining shop. We see quite a bit of used equipment come thru these premises. I will keep an eye open for your equipment over the next several weeks.
If there is any further information you can give me on your equipment (or how to contact you), please feel free to call me at (530) 410- 3122. You can also email me at
PlacerGold@email.com.

Chip.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 02:13:19 FriAug 31 2007 )


  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 03:26:30 FriAug 31 2007 )

Is that a Honcoop HB17 highbanker?

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 06:39:24 FriAug 31 2007 )

Yes it is a Honcoop HB17 with the HB17DK dredge option.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 18:34:16 FriAug 31 2007 )

Jim-

Great idea on that cable! What kind of lock do you use?

Mike



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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 19:59:37 FriAug 31 2007 )

I use casehardened Master locks. I use three short cables with crimped loops. one goes tightly around the motor and frame, one around the t-80 compressor, and one through the sluice box and jet tube. I bring them together in the area of the jet tube and lock them to a seperate cable to a tree or a big rock. I put the lock down low so it is hard to get to. You can buy a set of three locks all keyed the same. So far I still have my dredge.... Jim ...
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 01:24:37 SunSep 2 2007 )

they are every where, On the Bear River outside of Colfax, Ca. one dredger lost a 1000 watt honda generator setting just couple feet away from his camper when he woke next morn it was gone, next nite a 12 volt camper battery was took from the front of a diferent camper. was both reported to sheriff. 1st week of aug.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 21:55:29 TueOct 23 2007 )










Did you happen to be on the Heffner claim? My best friends' dad owned a claim in that area and rented it out to some guys that helicopter'd in equipment for the summer, 2 months or so. I actually hiked in with my best friend to see the operation, 2 divers were down about 15 feet in a deep hole, was it you?


If so, small world! I am thinking of doing the same thing if it's profitable, please email me at alexbelieves@hotmail.com, even if you're not the one who I saw on that claim, please contact me and if you'd be so kind, let me know if that area is worth helicoptering in equipment or not, thanks!

Patrick







  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 23:14:48 TueOct 23 2007 )

Pat. if you are talking about me, we floated the dredge in ...no helo.

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 18:47:21 WedOct 24 2007 )

Rich : I think it is me that he is asking the question? I will get back to him soon with an answer. He might be one of the people that I keep the dog from eating when they walked up on us by surprise?... Jim ...

  
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Re: @##$%**@& Thieves are still out there folks. ( 03:09:18 ThuOct 25 2007 )

Ok, Jim couldn`t tell when they don`t throw a name in there???

  
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Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 19:10:36 FriOct 26 2007 )

The week of Oct 1st my son & his dredging partner lost their 2 1/2 Keene to thieves.
The dredge could have been hid better as the location was far too close to the river & being a 2 1/2 inch it was lightweight enough to carry out.
The dredge was tarped over about 3000 ft. above the campground.
Lets be careful out there.
Cheers,
Bruce

  
chickenlip_willie
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 20:19:30 FriOct 26 2007 )

badbruce : What river or creek was this dredge stolen from?

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 12:07:16 SatOct 27 2007 )

Bear River about 3000 ft. above the campground.
A lot of folks leave their rigs tied up on the river for the duration of their stay but I guess at 90 lbs a 2 1/2 inch Keene is easy prey.
Cheers,
Bruce

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 05:17:34 SatNov 10 2007 )

WELL IM SORRY ABOUT YOUR LOSS.I LOST A KEENE 5 INC TRIPPLE WITH ALL THE WENCHING GEAR TOO.LOST IT ON THE SULTAN RIVER IN WASH.1990.THEY SAID THAT D.N.R.WAS TAKING ANY DREDGES THEY COULD FIND.THEY HAD TOO LOOK REALLY HARD TO FIND MINE .PERHAPS THE CULPRIT IS THE STATE .

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 16:28:42 WedJan 9 2008 )

one thing that I also do is make a copy of my permit, laminate it, and attach it to the dredge. Its a good first line of defense with the agencies.

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 19:11:10 WedJan 9 2008 )

I've got a great idea!!! Try one of those new ( and pretty cheap ) dog tracking devices that is accessed by satellite put it in a water sealed plastic container of some sort ( something waterproof anyway but that can't block the satellite connection such as metal and disquise and secure it in a hidden location somewhere on the dredge before you leave it to go to town. MAKE
SURE IT IS HIDDEN WELL, and you will catch you dog!!!!!

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 21:38:13 WedJan 9 2008 )

Its far better to make it too difficult to mess with than to have to chase it down. Spud poles on either end are a hassle for a thief alone. Chain and anchor helps, too. Especially if the chain is tied to the bottom of the dredge where they cannot easily find it in the dark. My motors and compressors use rounded heads on top. And the nuts on the bottom are covered so that you must remove motor plate to access. At least one bolt hole in motor plate has a lock thru it and the frame.

I have lost a few hoses and weights. And once they took my carpets outta the dredge. But so far, they have left most of my stuff alone. They go looking for easier pickings.

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 22:07:02 WedJan 9 2008 )

I still think the GPS dog collars are good becuase they are very small and easy to hide. I think you chain is easy to see and a set of Bolt Cutters will go right though it. With the GPS pet collars (remove the collar) you can sit at your campsite with a wireless laptop and monitar every second. Provided your have the USB WIFI card to get the internet but they are only $60.00 through Verison Wireless and for $50.00 a month you have unlimited time on the internet. Although both ideas together are very good. It must be the same person doing this or people becuase of the info I have read, you'd be doing a favor to all the niners by tracking one of these guys down and identifiying them on record so if anyone sees him or them around we would be aware.

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 05:30:02 ThuJan 10 2008 )

You will not be able to access Internet by WIFI on most of the claims. Cells phone rarely get a signal either.



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Tobin1
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 20:42:42 ThuJan 10 2008 )

Verizon is probably the best carrier, you should see their coverage area, alomost the entire USA! Including HC and in the low areas it will automatically swicth to analog and roaming which is not only free but uses any known tower available. The only thing I overlooked was the GPS collar which is not Verizon. At any rate use it where you can!!!!

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 21:35:37 ThuJan 10 2008 )

Verizon cell service is actually pretty good in Happy Camp. None of the others work,though. And even Verizon won't work when you get outside the city limits.

I have set up a sat. dish and generator to contact the outside world while working on claims. But even then you must choose your location carefully. Else the mountains will interfere with your signal.

Get a pillow and sleep on the dredge!

  
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Re: Apparently the Bear River is a favorite spot of thieves. ( 03:51:32 SatJan 12 2008 )

I was told by one of our members that "US Cellular" works in Happy Camp and at Savage Rapids on the Klamath were most other cellular wireless phones are useless. ... Jim ...

  

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