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boating on the klamath ( 23:47:49 SatDec 29 2007 )

Going to use a boat on the klamath next year for prospecting and moving equipment.Question is do you need to use a 4-stroke motor or can you still use a 2-stroke?

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 01:59:05 SunDec 30 2007 )

Most use 4 stroke and I don't know of any restrictions yet. Usaully 2 strokers are banned from calm waters like lakes due to the oil residue from the exhaust that will put a coat or layer of oil on the surface.


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Re: boating on the klamath ( 20:50:21 SunDec 30 2007 )

I quess a electric type trolling motor would be to weak????
what would be the min gas HP? for a dredge project.
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 21:52:57 SunDec 30 2007 )

I have a 5hp on a zodiac type raft, and don't have to use but a 1/4 throttle pulling dredges over. Course the water isn't all that swift right there. Dredges were Keene 5's and 6's

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 06:59:57 MonDec 31 2007 )

he had to go to a motor cuase he couldn't hold on to his oars, haha!

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 00:59:05 TueJan 1 2008 )

Quote: ausearcher

he had to go to a motor cuase he couldn't hold on to his oars, haha!


That's only funny if you have never lost an oar or paddle.

Trying to paddle upstream on the Klamath with only a shovel is a major PIA.

FWIT, I use a Paddle Ski
to transport my 3" highbanker/dredge up, down or across the Klamath. When going down stream or across the river I load my equipment in the rear and paddle from the front position. When I need to move equipment upstream, I load the equipment in the front and use an electric motor. It's slow going especially in area's with a strong current... but it works for me, most of the time.

On the rare occasion when the motor doesn't have enough power to get me and the equipment back upstream.... I just float downstream to a take out point when I'm done working that area.



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Re: boating on the klamath ( 16:41:04 FriJan 4 2008 )

2 strokes are permitted on the Klamath so far. 10' inflatables and small John boats probably need at least 10hp to be able to cover most of the river. This river does have several areas of dangerous rapids that should be avoided for safety.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 22:39:35 FriJan 4 2008 )

Hello
Has anyone used a 5 hp 4 stroke Briggs & Stratton outboard motor on the Klamath River or anywhere else? http://www.smalloutboards.com/bg5.htm

What size is the one Dave uses on the river for the dredging projects?

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 00:18:59 SatJan 5 2008 )

I recommended a 10HP because I live in Happy Camp and have tried several different sizes and found them lacking. A 6' pool toy raft and 1 person will move slowly up stream in slow water areas with the 45LB 12 volt trolling motor. A 9' Zodiac type raft will work fine upstream in easy water with a 5HP gas. Small John boats have similar performance if lightly loaded. However if you are prospecting and checking out the river you will find all the above are seriously underpowered for a loaded boat or any of the swift water areas if you plan on making headway against the current. By all means bring whatever you have and just learn it's short comings. You will find almost every type and size of small boat here every summer, most without motors. The people that use them avoid areas where they would have problems or sell them and upgrade to a better combination.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 05:05:22 SatJan 5 2008 )

Rusty, we had no trouble anywhere on the UK's with my 12 zodiac and a 5 hp even when pulling dredges and all their gear across in one trip. And you know how fast that water is on UK-3. Smarter would be 10hp, but then I don't want to carry it up and down the bank everyday.



  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 05:16:08 SatJan 5 2008 )

I need to get you out of that lake that is called the UK claims and down to the real water of the mid Klamath claims. You know the area where Terry and Kim stuck their boats to the big rapids in the swift water. That is if you can keep that rubber boat away from light bulbs.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 00:26:26 MonJan 7 2008 )

I plan to bring a 9" rubber rift when I move to HC and I was wondering if I could get buy with a trolling motor elec. motor to take my highbanker across the river. I will not be pulling a dredge.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 20:31:27 MonJan 7 2008 )

I have tested the most powerful 12 v trolling motors on boats up to and including a 9' Zodiac type on the Klamath. My opinion is on a light weight 6' unit with light load it will work ok if you pick your place. It will not go up current in any of the swift areas, it will not keep you from getting sucked into the rapids, and it will not work well if overloaded. The are slightly better than paddling, easy to handle and cheep to own. Your 9' boat and (load ?) will push the limit of enjoyment.
By all means bring what ever you own. Every year all types of floating objects are pressed into service by dredgers. From pool toys to actual $3000+ Zodiacs and they all work. Obviously some better than others. My comments are not met to stop anyone from bringing whatever they own, only to guide you in buying new equipment for the Klamath

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 01:43:16 TueJan 8 2008 )

Thanks Rusty, I have not bought the boat or moter yet. I thought that using a trol motor was was wishful thinking.I will go to plan B. It is ssure helpful to get feedback from all of you Great people that live there. It helps with the mistakes that we can make not knowqing the area.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 05:36:49 TueJan 8 2008 )

Feel free to ask anything. Someone on here has already been there and done it. Some of us several times. Miners like to reinvent the wheel regardless how much it ends up costing.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 17:33:10 WedJan 9 2008 )

environmentally friendly

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 03:41:49 ThuJan 10 2008 )

Currently I am not aware of any new changes to the rules covering boat operation on the Klamath river.2 strokes and 4 strokes run side by side on the river. I am sure at some time in the future the 2 strokes will go away. We all should try to use low smoke oils to prevent the oil clouds that some time accompany 2 stroke use. Environmentally friendly operation is a good thing to remember. If we don't do it, there are plenty of eyes watching that will make us wish we had.

  
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Re: boating on the klamath ( 06:18:20 ThuJan 10 2008 )

If you are going to use a motor with a prop. be sure to have a generous supply of shear pins. Also a prop cage is advisable because of the pleantiful supply of rocks and boulders lurking just below the surface. A spare prop would not hurt either. Also patching material for the holes and tears. It seems that every year we loose a boater to the river and they are almost always not wearing a life jacket. Enjoy the river, but respect her cuz she can be moody.

  

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