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dredger49er
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Creek claims ( 17:13:10 SatJan 26 2008 )

Is there any possibility that the club will be getting any new claims on the other tributaries of the Klamath or Scott in the near future? I am one of those that aren't comfortable in the swifter and deeper waters but love to dredge. If not, I'll have to continue to work the Indian and Elk I guess. But it would be nice to have some new territory to work like you big guys on the main waters. I know I'll never get as much as you on the Klamath but that isn't my goal. I just love to dredge but have these darn deep water issues. LOL! And here I am, a retired USN guy. Double LOL! I stopped working on the Thompson when I found out about the fish ladders because I could never tell just where they began and ended and didn't wnat to get a ticket and that the upper part of the claim is gone to us. Don't expect to see near as much creek claims as the main stems but a couple of smaller and shallower creek areas would be much appreciated. I am definitely not alone in this desire and fear of deep water as told to me by many that I met this summer on the Elk and in staying in Elk Creek campground for 6 months this last year. We moved into Yreka in November to remain close to the area (wife had issues with the remoteness of Happy Camp). I'll continue to do what I can as we have fallen in love with this beautiful part of the country.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 02:02:29 SunJan 27 2008 )

check out the north and south fork salmon there is shallow bedrock

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 04:38:56 SunJan 27 2008 )

Hey dude, stronger and longer rope, and more lead !

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 16:27:46 MonFeb 18 2008 )

Check out a small tributary called Jackson Creek. It is located at the turn off at Callahan. Turn up Cecilville Rd. toward Forks of Salmon and head up about 5 miles. Jackson Creek feeds into the South Fork of the Scott River. On the right hand side of the road there is a gate that the USFS put in to stop vehicular traffic from going up that dirt road. You can hike up there about 1 mile. There are a few other claims on Jackson Creek. The creek is small and not more than 8' to 10' across and no deeper than 4' I would say. My grandfather worked a claim up there in the '30's and 40's.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 02:32:50 TueFeb 19 2008 )

Dredgercamp,

Who owns this claim on Jackson Creek? It is not a New 49'ers claim. I think that dredger49er was asking about club claims.



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Re: Creek claims ( 04:46:31 TueFeb 19 2008 )

You all might look into getting a club claim up there. I went on to the CA BLM website and isolated it down to about 6 different claims on Jackson Creek. Interesting topography up there as there is an old water flume running up there. I am not sure where it starts or ends but it is interesting with water still running in it...agricultural?It's not a very long creek about 4 miles from it's origin at Jackson Lake and empties into the South Fork of the Scott River. Due to the gate the USFS put up I assumed the area has been closed to any further mineral exploration? It could be worth researching more.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 00:31:18 ThuFeb 21 2008 )

Yes, I was inquiring to the possibility of the 49'ers acquiring an occasional creek claim or two besides the mighty Klamath ones. We who are deep water challenged would appreciate this. I dearly would love to own my own claim but I'm totally mystified and baffled by the process. I've read some stories about all the ins and outs of finding and filing a clam but I've just never been able to gain a good grasp of all of it. Guess I'll never get one so will be one of the many that have to rely upon the likes of the 49'ers to offer me the chance to find some gold. I have a 4" dredge with air but hardly needed it on Elk Creek last summer. Only got down about 5 feet but had a blast and got a little color. Sure, I would dearly love to be able to work the Klamath like all you other guys and maybe get the big gold. I feel that there are still a fair amount of areas to claim still that would be more to my liking but will remain lost as to the process of finding my own. Never planned on getting rich at this but it still would be nice to find more than a 1/2 ounce in 6 months. Will have to remain on the sidelines cheering you others on and wishing you luck but also retain a twinge of jealousy. Spent the whole summer in Happy Camp scratching out some fun and now have moved into Yreka to still remain close to the action for next summer. Just realize that there are alot of guys like me sitting out on the creeks and wondering... if only?
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Re: Creek claims ( 02:23:15 ThuFeb 21 2008 )

It's not too hard to stake a placer claim. Back in the day before Siskiyou county was surveyed by the USFS claimants used to file a claim with the County Recorder in Yreka described as a "Meets & Bounds" claim. Meets & Bounds is basically a narrative description of the claim. Something like this...From the bridge head in a Northwesterly direction 600' thence 300' in a Northern direction so on an so forth until you get back to the starting point. This is very sketchy as there are 360 degrees in an compass bearing so it leads to some of the most vague and ambigious claims. The accepted method now is Township, Range, Section, 1/4, 1/8 section. I hope I don't loose you but my head is filled with over 30 years of surveying for the USFS that my dad passed on to me. Take a map of Klamath National forest. There are 36 sections in a particular Township/Range, each section represents 640 acres of land. Most placer claims are 20 acres so you have to break it down for your claim description. I could go on forever but will spare the other readers. Anyway, you need to contact the USFS and determine if mineral entry is permitted in you desired location. Once you stake the claim report it to the county recorder in Yreka and the BLM in Sacramento. Every year pay your taxes on it and do your improvement work on the land (rock walls etc..) and file an miners exemption form for the improvement work or else you pay the kitty a little more along with your taxes. I will shut up now but you can do man good luck.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 04:09:21 ThuFeb 21 2008 )

Dredgercamp, thanks for the hints. But hints still confuse me even more. LOL! Just don't let me ever run into you or I'll end up kidnapping you and picking your brain for all the good knowledge you have on getting a claim. I'll try and figure it out mself but will probably end up getting a claim by the year 2020. It's just have to happen in its own time but I'm going to try anyway. It's just things like finding a possible place to maybe claim, how big of an area is actually 20 acres (don't want to goof up and try and grab 21 acres and lose it all), can I file a claim of 20 and another 20 adjacent to it but in my wife or son's name or can you do it under one name in total but under 2 separate claims, how honest will the USFS be in telling me if the land is open, and...... I too will shut up now. But thanks again.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 05:03:56 ThuFeb 21 2008 )

Dredger49er

Check out this link to the California BLM

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/iac/faqmc.html

It is a treasure trove of all the questions you ever wanted to know about staking a claim. That way you have it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. Maybe this summer I'll hook up the 24' travel trailer and harness the old 7.3 diesel and make a run to Happy Camp. Should be easy to spot with New Mexico license plates. I enjoy camraderie and don't particularly like solo prospecting. I have been trying to energize my wife with the gold fever but I don't think re-runs of Tom Massey in Gold Fever are cutting the mustard...haha.


  
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Re: Creek claims ( 05:54:38 ThuFeb 21 2008 )

Thanks again Dredgercamp! The info is great and I'll be getting a copy of their book on claims. Might have to keep an eye out for you and your rig. Let me know if you do head up here. And maybe I'll have a claim of MY own to have you check out. And it is more fun to share a work site, especially in the evenings over a beer around a campfire. See who has the bragging rights for the day. LOL! My wife has the fever but wants more proof of the yellow stuff out there before she becomes an addict like me. GPAA shows don't instill any enthusiasm in her either. But I have high hopes for my dredge "partner" as I even went and got her a new higbanker/dredge combo of her own.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 15:30:09 FriFeb 22 2008 )

Let your wife read this site and she probably will be hooked...We have seen the gpaa shows over and over and boring...read this site all the time and never boring.Let her watch the free video. Hope to see you down there this summer.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 03:01:15 SatFeb 23 2008 )

dredger49er, methinks you need to get a better plan. Wife and I did over 2ozt. in 6days just mossing and cracking. That was the first year that we were with the 49ers and we didnt know squat. Not bragging or putting you down, but you should be doing ALOT better than that. Maybe show up on the free weekends and learn. We are miners helping miners and we mean it. All you need to do is ask.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 16:58:15 SatFeb 23 2008 )

You all check this website out, interesting information about prospecting in general.

http://www.goldengirlminingcompany.com/

There is massive amounts of gold in the Feather River & Yuba Rivers...don't let the Klamath give you tunnel vision.
I just called my brother up in Plumas County to start planning our spring/summer prospecting adventure. I know Siskiyou County is a motherlode but so is Plumas, Sierra, & Nevada counties. Can't wait to hit it hard when it thaws out.

  
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Re: Creek claims ( 18:52:25 SatFeb 23 2008 )

Dredgercamp

The main reason we seem to focus on the Klamath is because this is the New 49'ers message forum and the new 49'ers and their claims are located on the Klamath River.



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Re: Creek claims ( 17:14:08 SunFeb 24 2008 )

Dredgercamp.....

I think you should still be able file a "metes and bounds" description for a claim in Siskiyou county.

All of Siskiyou county was not "surveyed by the USFS".

In fact, most of the goverment surveys that cover the Salmon river were CANCELLED several years ago by the BLM even though a few original corners exist today.

The BLM came in and surveyed most(if not all) of the private holdings because they border public lands. That is all the surveying that was done.

(By the way, the USFS has no authority to survey public land boundaries, only the BLM has that authority.)

So, most of the claims that are filed on the Salmon river by aliquote part descriptions(1/4, 1/16, etc.) are only projected from the old quad maps, not from actual surveys.

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