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Gasoline prices at Happy Camp ( 01:03:54 WedFeb 20 2008 )

Just how much is the gasoline going for in Happy Camp now days? Just 87 octane. Thanks,,,,Planning on a summer of fun there. Over 6000 miles round trip,,,, trying to figure out how much this fun trip will cost in round figures. Also do you need a permit to have a handgun in your vehicle?

  
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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 03:19:20 WedFeb 20 2008 )

last time i went and got fuel gas was $3.39. I don't know about needing a permit but i don't leave camp without mine I'm not to fond of them little kitty's we have out here

  
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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 03:46:23 WedFeb 20 2008 )

check the law, but the 2007 law was:
The transportation or carrying of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person by any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years
who resides or is temporarily within this state, and is not within the excepted classes
prescribed by Penal Code Sections 12021 or 12021.1 or Welfare and Institutions Code sections
8100 or 8103, provided that the following applies:
- the firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container
in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment, and;
- when the firearm is carried by the person to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose, the
firearm must be contained in a locked container while being physically carried. (Penal Code
12026.1.)



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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 03:54:03 WedFeb 20 2008 )

Check this website:

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/travel.php

Traveling with Firearms in California

HANDGUNS
California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.




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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 04:09:34 WedFeb 20 2008 )

Always check with law enforcement personnel.
CA penal code ~120126.2
(11) The transportation of a firearm by a person when going
directly to, or coming directly from, a lawful camping activity for the purpose of having that firearm available for lawful personal protection while at the lawful campsite. This paragraph shall not be construed to override the statutory authority granted to the
Department of Parks and Recreation or any other state or local governmental agencies to promulgate rules and regulations governing the administration of parks and campgrounds.



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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 04:38:08 WedFeb 20 2008 )

While I can't answer your question about current gas prices I can give you a heads up on California's Draconian handgun laws.

To be legal in California a handgun transported within a motor vehicle on a state, county, municipal or public road, within an incorporated area/territory must be unloaded, stored in a locked container with the ammo stored separately. The handgun must not be accessible.

The good news is that open carry of a loaded handgun, even in a vehicle, is permissible in an unincorporated territory with only a handful of exceptions. Those include Federal buildings, including a post office, state and local public buildings, within 1000 of a school zone and within a business that serves alcohol for on premises consumption.

A handgun can be carried openly but must be unloaded, even in a vehicle, in any prohibited area of an unincorporated territory. A Prohibited area is anywhere that the discharge of a firearm is prohibited. Unfortunately counties and cities in California can pass local laws/ordnances that define where discharging a firearm is prohibited. Typically these are within city limits and upon public roads.

Forest service roads are a gray area. Technically you can open carry while driving but because you are prohibited from discharging a firearm from the forest service road (FS rule) the firearm must be unloaded.

I am not a California resident and California does not recognize any of my concealed weapon permits, nor to my knowledge do they recognize a permit from any other state. California is a may (might)issue state and only to residents.

Last year I did some prospecting in the Mother Lode area and spent most of the summer and fall in Happy Camp. All the areas I was in were unincorporated and I open carried mostly without incident. I encountered several LEO's in both area's and only had one encounter with an officer in Mariposa who had to verify my right to open carry with his supervisor but even that was done in a relaxed environment.

The Forest service and BLM people I met didn't seem concerned or uncomfortable with the presence of my sidearm and there were no confrontations.

Disclaimer: These are the California laws as I understand them. Your experience may be different and I suggest you read up on the California gun laws yourself and contact the Police department in the area you plan on visiting to get there interpretation of the law.

Clear as mud... right.

On Edit: Open carry is in plain sight. If you put your gun under the seat, cover it with something on the seat or carry it concealed on your person you can expect at least a night in jail, loss of your weapon and major legal costs.
[1 edits; Last edit by liveneasy at 04:50:00 Wed Feb 20 2008]



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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 16:00:53 WedFeb 20 2008 )

As far as current fuel prices you would have to check with a local, ask Rusty. Happy camp has one card lock station and there is another one in Seiad. They only have 87 octaine and it runs real close to the price of premium in southern Oregon. Last year when the fires started the price took a big jump (up around 3.55gal) if I remember correctly. Also the card lock would only sell me 50$ of fuel per day so bring a few cans or different cards to use. I used my visa debit card. You can also purchase cards in town. Make sure you fill up before leaving the interstate if you are comming from I-5 because there is no fuel till Seiad (50 miles). I found that out the hard way but managed to make it on fumes and a prayer, not the most relaxing way to end a long drive.

Robert

  
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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 19:23:18 WedFeb 20 2008 )

Fuel prices in Happy Camp usually run .30+ more than what you would pay in Medford Or. About .10-.15 more than Seiad. However I have seen as much as .80 difference. Both stations are card lock unattended pumps. The Happy Camp one has an office next door that is open daily if you have to use cash and you can buy cash cards to use later. Both stations are open 24 hr. Currently I think the prices in HC are 3.70 for Diesel and 3.45 for regular.

  
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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 23:30:20 ThuFeb 21 2008 )

I was wrong on the regular price. Just bought some today in HC price was 3.37

  
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Re: Gasoline prices at Hppy Camp ( 15:05:59 FriFeb 22 2008 )

Since the explosion at the texas refinery regular gas in the bay area has gone up at least .10 cents a gallon in the last couple of days. don't know what one has to do with the other, but I guess they look for any excuse to raise the price.



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