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SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 01:25:23 WedMar 2 2011 )

This just in from Tom Kitchar of Waldo Miners:

GOOD NEWS FOR A CHANGE: Sen. Atkinson pulled his anti-recreational mining bill SB 765 today! His aid said they got way more opposition than they expected, plus all the legal questions the bill raised.


  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 01:38:40 WedMar 2 2011 )

Wow, I don't have to pawn my left nut now. I'm down to just one after the last couple of years.....

  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 02:56:17 WedMar 2 2011 )

This is GOOD NEWS !!

We still have a big fight ahead of us in California with these new dredging regs. We need to keep the Legal Defense Fund built up to fighting strength !!.... Jim :doublethumbsup:

  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 04:02:59 WedMar 2 2011 )

You're right everybody-

Now we can get the attention directed back to the DSEIR and new dredging regs in CA. This one needs all of our conbined resources. I've been studying the DSEIR for 2 days and am just now finishing with the first time through. It's quite repetitive and filled with redundencies. I have found several items I want to challenge and reverse.

Again I repeat myself...

The DSEIR is good for us and we're not shown as being problematic. This is only the draft. We can make numerous improvements as we continue towards the finished document. I feel as though the many authors of this work attempted to take the dredgers side over and over.

Let's get at it!
[1 edits; Last edit by Rod_Seiad at 01:33:54 Thu Mar 3 2011]

  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 05:01:08 WedMar 2 2011 )

Rod, this is the final draft, the next will be the full blown SEIR and regulations.



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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 18:22:09 WedMar 2 2011 )

From the moment SB765 (Oregon Dredge Permits) was introduced several sites had Threads started to relate information. Because more than a few people wanted to start their own thread it seems to me that this subject has lost a lot of followers. Has anyone learned from the past? I'm not telling anyone what to do. But I'll tell you what I am ALARMED about. When alot of people spent alot of time researching sources and sending correspondance's to defeat this bill, a few people posted: GOOD!!!it's defeated. Now this appears to others that may not of known about this bill will have no concern to send e-mails to the State of Oregon. I consider that this issue has just been hi-jacked. What the hell guy's? I'm hoping that every miner in the United States will continue to send letters so that in the FUTURE perhaps the term "Oh No, remember what happened to SB765" may remain in the minds of dinks like Atkinson and his followers. Why post things like it's over. It's never OVER. Send e-mails thanking those you think need thanked, but never give up and never send a message out to those who have not sent a letter that it's not needed now. Maybe I'm wrong.....but I've been blind-sided before and expect more of the same.

  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 18:38:01 WedMar 2 2011 )

Whoops sorry Jim, I'll go back and reread that part. I could have sworn there is to be a finished and polished draft.

  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 21:09:21 WedMar 2 2011 )

Here is the schedule from there site, still looks like we have time to get things changed. It says purposed regulations?

Project Schedule Public review of Initial Study and Notice of Preparation (including public scoping meetings) (see scoping report below) Winter 2009

Public review of Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Report and regulatory updates (including public hearings) February 28 through April 29, 2011

Public Meetings on DSEIR and Proposed Regulations Late March 2011 (see schedule below)

Final Supplemental EIR and regulatory updates Late Fall 2011

File Notice of Determination and CEQA Findings Late Fall 2011

  
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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 23:09:03 WedMar 2 2011 )

Yes Rod, there is to be a finished and polished version, but my point was that it will not be a "draft" it will be the real thing that will be implemented. A draft is nothing more than a proposal that can and will change. The final outcome will be the EIR generated by all the previous drafts.

That's how I understand it anyway.



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Re: SB 765 is withdrawn! ( 02:31:56 SatMar 5 2011 )

MarkB

You're absolutely right! There was so many hip shots that it was unbelievable. I sat in the Josephine County Commissioners meeting and listen to several miners misquote the bill, even an mining expert had it wrong.

I spoke with not the Bill author or his aide or a commissioner but the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee where the bill sits and still sits.

What Atkinson told him (and I have no reason to doubt the chairman's word) was that the Bill was not going to be push through committee at this time. The Bill still sits in the committee just gathering dust.:shrug:

So it makes you guys feel better to call it rescinded, or recalled, or killed, or whatever, great.

Why did Atkinson have a change of heart, well, he did get a lot of calls, letters, and was even told that the bill had some legality issues, but his own party leadership was not happy with it nor was DEQ that reminded him of the current permit system and regulations for dredging.
I believe a few of you know that Oregon DEQ had been trying to get a handle on this very issue themselves.

So it was the old proverbial, pissing in the someone else's pond concept.

This battle done, more attention should be to help those working on:

- California Dredging Program
- Siskiyou Crest National Monument
- Continued mining rights

One organization that seems to get millions and millions of dollars of support is KS Wild. Believe me when I say they would be ecstatic to close down all mining.

:thankyou:
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