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Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 21:06:28 FriDec 21 2012 )

Hi Dave and New 49ers,

I'm a new member, I've send a deposit on a membership that I will pay in full as soon as a cash settlement comes through in Feb. My wish is to equip for a summer of prospecting that includes working the Klamath claims and then going to Oregon for the Suction Dredge season. Before I sink a lot of money into equipment and then travel from Florida a few things have to line up for me but that's the intent.

I would be most grateful to get some guidance from experienced miners as to where and when to get started if they would welcome a newbie working nearby. I'm sick of where the government is taking us (right down the crapper) and plan to include seeking a farm in the PNW to move to in the trip out this summer.

Perhaps a 4" Keene dredge set up would be good for a beginner working solo, small Zodiac to get up and down river, some form of high banker for the places you can't dredge, and all the usual support equipment? Checking the forums for bargains in good shape.

Liberty or Death,
Chris



  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 10:56:00 SatDec 22 2012 )

Hi Chris,
welcome to the 49er,s,I to plan to travel to happy camp mid may for two weeks then on to Oregon for the dredging season,I am coming from Australia,I do not have much experience in prospecting but I am ex Cmmercial Diver,I am looking forward to getting back in the water,I hope to team up with a like minded person to work together and share in all the expense ie accomodation dredge etc,as I will have to leave at the end of the season I can sell my share of the gear back to my partner or whatever works out the best for all.
Keep in touch and see you at Happy Camp.
All the best .
Tom.
PS I am an older bloke so I am Domesticated and Potti trained.

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 16:22:58 SatDec 22 2012 )

:welcome: Welcome to the club!

I have been a member for four years and I try to spend as much time as I can during the summer at Happy Camp. It is a nice place with friendly people. I am sure you will enjoy your time here with the club.

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 00:19:41 SunDec 23 2012 )

Hey Tom,

Let's find out more about one another as I move toward finalizing my 2013 summer prospecting plans. I'm 56, not married but in long term relationship with girlfriend in Florida who has horses on 8 acres. Got laid off from job I worked at for 31 years with 2 weeks notice- no severance, no gold watch- just a fare-thee-well last July. I don't ever want to punch a time clock for a paycheck signed by someone else again in this lifetime.
It's a long haul from here to CA. and OR. with much logistical detail to be worked out. I have no mining or diving equipment yet and my underwater experience is just saltwater snorkelling up and down the coast of FL.
I'll have to decide between equiping and then dragging it the whole length of the USA and back again or flying out with minimal supplies and equipping once there with the idea of storing or return shipping things back here. Costs and the reality of doing one or a combination of scenarios will have to be assessed. Vehicle with possible trailer for dredge/ Zodiac/ Equipment, etc. would have to be rented? I'm making this up as I go along... Or puchased and driven a zillion miles one or both ways across the country.
I used to have a 2WD Ford F-150 (yr. 2000 model) But it was totaled in a high speed wreck that, but for luck and some providence, might have done for me back in 2010. Right now I have little more than a blank slate and a dream!
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 07:35:59 SunDec 23 2012 )

Hello again Chris,
that was a pretty awful way to treat a long time employee
don,t blame you for being upset.
I like you have a long way to travel from Australia,same problems regarding gear,I will arrive without anything except my basic dive gear,will have to buy bomb type vehicle in Happy camp,will check out whats available in the secondhand market re hookah and dredge combo,I can build a Hookha but its all down to time and availability of parts and of course a workshop that I do not have there,so most probably be used gear.
I am aged 64 married and should be commited !!
have great figure 36 24 36 [ right arm] great smile when the falsies are in and hate stress,ususlly get along with nice people.
Don,t worry about diving experiance if you can breath I can teach you the rest,regardless if we team or not,probably best to arrive in Happy Camp with just the basics and take it from there,as you probably know storage is available through the 49 er,s,I have seen second hand gear advertised in Sacremento and surrounds and I an sure there will be some opportunities to buy in and around Happy Camp.
Have a Happy Xmas .
Tom.

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 09:59:24 SunDec 23 2012 )

Welcome to The New 49'ers, Chris!

"Perhaps a 4" Keene dredge set up would be good for a beginner working solo, small Zodiac to get up and down river, some form of high banker for the places you can't dredge, and all the usual support equipment? Checking the forums for bargains in good shape."

Looks to me like you are right on track for your first season!

The small boat with motor will give you much better access along the Rogue River, and it will also be a big help on the new claims we have acquired along the Klamath. More about those soon.

Note that the same motor and pump will power a 4-inch dredge or a 3-inch high-banker. So you might save some money buying just one of those. I recommend a hookah compressor so you can reach out further into the river.

Our seasons along the Klamath have been starting later during recent years (weather). It's always hard to predict how things will go. But you might be fighting rain and high water up until May (we used to start in March or April).

I'll be putting out an article soon on how to use your gear to facilitate underwater crevicing in California without violating the dredging moratorium by using your suction system to transfer pay-dirt from out in the river over to a container near the bank where you can process it separately. The gear you are talking about above will be good for that.

So you might get an earlier start on the Klamath this year. I believe dredging on the Rogue in Oregon starts mid-June. But the river has been running high for the last few seasons into early July.

I'll be looking forward to meeting you!

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 16:48:04 SunDec 23 2012 )

Hey Dave,

Thanks for the tips, I'll look for your articles when they come out. I really like the over/under classifier set up you fabricated to catch all the fines in your sluice that you posted the how-to article on. That looks like the way to go.

Keene advertises a 3 stage sluice box on their 4" & 5" dredges that looks like it a similar process but not as continuous with the 3/8" and 1/8" screenining overall like your design. I doubt I'll have the time, tools and materials, or expertise to customize a sluice on the spot so will likely have to go with one as is. I'm thinking in the direction of a 5" dredge with 4" nozzle for Oregon.

One thing I would make every effort to do is add the hot water heat exchange system from pump motor to heat wetsuit. Would you be able to give some input or guidance to assist me in doing that when the time comes? I know my limitations and long exposure to cold water would be extremely difficult if not impossible for me. Does the hot water get all the way down to your gloves?

One last question; I may have jumped the gun when I filled out the online application (the free one) for dredging yesterday. Just as I hit submit I realized they might regard it as an application for the 2012 season which is perhaps technically still going but in practical terms all but over. Reckon I'll wait 'till after new year and submit again and/or call to clear that up with them. I have printed the 700-PM app. and will wait a couple weeks to send it in. As for the mining Township, Range and Section coordinates should I use the same ones you posted with your example application? I don't have the slightest idea where I'll be dredging at this point.

P.S. I tried to add an avatar photo from my facebook profile URL but it didn't work apparently. I love/hate computers.

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 23:37:49 SunDec 23 2012 )

Very wise! I personally would not dredge the Rogue without hot water.

I believe Armadillo Mining Supplies in Grants Pass (Oregon)is selling the hot water heaters. Don't wait until the last minute, because they only have so many in stock. Here is their number: 541-476-6316

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 17:26:01 FriJan 11 2013 )

Greetings New 49ers! A shoutout from the "other" Sunshine State! I just got my approved DSL permit #APP0052486 woohoo! Now to submit the Application for 700-PM permit. Can anyone help with suggestion for the location required on the permit? It wants a coordinate for township, Range, and Section but I don't have the first clue where on the Rouge I'll be starting. I was really hoping to get with one or two of the experienced miners prior to the season opening for some guidance if they are willing to have a newbie dredging anywhere near them. I promise not to ask more than 3 stupid questions per day... on a sliding scale... questions asked underwater don't count...

Anyway to get my permit app in the mail I need to fill in the blanks so other than copying the sample form Dave has uploaded in the Rouge River article (it's a little hard to read some of the numbers exactly) what should I put down for my initial mining location to get the approval process moving. Throw a dart at the map of the river? How critical is the accuracy of those coordinates?

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 23:15:40 FriJan 11 2013 )

It looks as if I am in good company as far as newbies is concerned. Maybe my hubby and I won't look quite so stupid out there trying to figure out what's going on. We don't even know what raw gold even looks like!!! But we are more than willing to learn.

About us: I am a 68 year old born and bread Texan who retired from the entertainment industry where I worked as a personal/legal assistant to top executives at Universal Studios, Hollywood. After getting more than bored at home, I decided to go back to school and get my PhD in Holistic Nutrition. I have a small, part time practice, but I just did it to prove I could. I am a consummate overachiever.

My husband, Vince, is a 51 year old geophysicist. He is currently VP of a geophysical instruments sales and rental company. When I met him he was bodyguard to Hollywood stars. We have been married for 20 years this February. My oldest son is only 2 years younger than my husband. I guess I was a cougar before cougars were in vogue <grin>. I can tell you that being married to a man 17 years your junior keeps you much younger and on your toes.

We own a 34 ft., 13 ft. high travel trailer and we plan to hit the road in March for Happy Camp. We are hoping Vince can retire and we can spend our time "gold hopping" around the 49er claims and two we have of our own.

We really look forward to learning from the "old pros" and gaining some valuable friends who have the same interests that we do. Most people we talk to about our ambitions think we have screws loose, but we don't care. They will laugh out of the other side of their mouths when they actually see GOLD we recover. :devil:





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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 18:07:15 SatJan 12 2013 )

Welcome to all of the new folks coming this way. Your really going to like the countryside and the people.

Do try to attend some of the weekend group outings Dave Mac of the New49ers puts on. I've been a member quite a long time and still enjoy and learn from new and old timers alike. I plan on attending and helping the groups this year as well.

If any of you new folks feel like taking a break from the Happy Camp area and would like to do a look see of the ocean, local rivers and the redwoods over hear on the coast give me a shout. I can give you a heads up on things to see and do over here.

Mike



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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 19:19:35 SatJan 12 2013 )

you have two mining claims and you've never seen gold!

Wow.....

March is still rainy and somewhat cold. Be prepared and good luck with your adventure.

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 20:44:27 SatJan 12 2013 )

Grshpr

For location on your application, just put down section 13, township 36 south, range 3 west. This is the area on the Rogue that has seen the most dredging activity the last couple of years.

You will be able to dredge anywhere it is legal to do so, the information is not site specific. In other words the permit is valid statewide even though it asks you to list a specific site.

DrLynda,

I too am amazed that you own two mining claims and have never even seen raw placer gold! The New 49ers is about miners helping miners. It is in my opinion the best place to learn the proper techniques to become a successful miner as you go through the required learning curve. Mining is a tough but rewarding experience. Good luck

Mark

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 03:30:52 SunJan 13 2013 )

Thanks Uncle Mark,

That's exactly what I was looking for. Now I can send in my 700-PM application.

Now if I could just hook up with an experienced miner or two on the phone for a chat it would help me plan the logistics of what I will have to do once there. Coming likely by air to save drive time from Florida I will have only minimal baggage mostly clothing. That means I will have to rent a vehicle that can move me and dissasembled dredge etc. around, thinking a minivan might do the trick and then go shopping. If my plans work out as anticipated I will come to Happy camp well before the dredging season in oregon to get started on the klamath. Then it's on to the Rouge and/or S. Umpqua. I'll have to get outfitted with everything from wetsuit to mining machinery and then figure out storage or sell everything I guess.

And some things might require some customization on the fly like adding hot water to a dredge motor unless I can order it that way to begin with. I may be able to fly out for a short stay before I come for the season and get some of the lay of the land and a head start on setting up equipment. If any of you old hands with experience in dredging want to chat me up; (561)723-2440. Alan Mash are you out there? Much oblidge!

Liberty or Death(to Tyranny),
Chris
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 05:55:21 SunJan 13 2013 )

I guess I should qualify that. We have one claim ouside Lead, South Dakota. We have had it for 2 years but have been unable to make a trip up there. We plan to go up there as soon as we can but it is, actually, farther to SD from where we live here in Texas than it is to Happy Camp.

Our other one is in the Jicarilla mountains of New Mexico. We have only been there twice and the gold we have extracted has been flour gold which doesn't look anything like larger gold. It is very minute and about all you see is the color; it resembles corn meal that shines.

Also, my husband is a geophysicist but has never seen any actual gold in person. It just depends on what area you concentrate on and his was more techtonics and oil exploration.

I hope that explains why we don't know what gold actually looks like.



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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 05:59:22 SunJan 13 2013 )

As I explained in another post, we have not even been to one of our claims and the other has flour gold which has no resemblance to larger gold other than color.

The claim in Jicarilla Mountains, NM is a dry mine which as proven to be quite a challenge since there is no water anywhere around. We have had to fill 55 gallon drums with material and bring it back here to Texas to process. That is a round trip of over 1500 miles. We have not harvested enough gold to pay for either trip, so we are considering letting the Jicarilla mine go and concentrate on the 49ers claims and the other claim in South Dakota.

We had thought we had harvested at least an ounce on our first trip but it seems that mica can be gold, too. The majority of the "gold" we had was actually gold colored mica. That was discouraging, to say the least.

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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 23:40:17 SatFeb 2 2013 )

Woohoo! Just got my general discharge 700PM permit! One step closer to summer of prospecting goal!

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 00:54:03 SunFeb 3 2013 )

Dr. L,

Use a powerful eye loupe or a microscope or even a powerful lens.

Look at your flour Gold under 30, 40 or even 50 power magnification and it looks Exactly like large Gold.

That should do until you start finding bigger 'stuff'.

Joe



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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 23:10:01 ThuMar 28 2013 )

Okay, been kinda quiet for a while; time for an update. Just got the Suzuki 20hp short shaft outboard I will be hanging on a 12' Zodiak style inflatable. The boat is waiting for me in Portland since shipping to FL was another $300. I will either take a drive up to get it or have it shipped to somewhere in CA for a lot less. Will have to ask Montine if they would accept delivery for me in that case.

Estimate departure still mid April. Closing on sale of my house next week. Shopping truck now. Wish I had more PNW driving experience, 4WD recommended? Probably what would work best as I also want to find some land out in the boonies somewhere to size up. Have a friend selling 26Ft RV for 3k to check out. Working with used dredge seller in SO CA to pick up when I get there. Dive suit should be ready by then also. Lots more to do once in country, and then the real work/ I mean fun starts!

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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 00:08:04 FriMar 29 2013 )

For club claims my 2wd truck works just fine

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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 01:05:52 FriMar 29 2013 )

Grshpr: Ask Montine and Ratled about what I have in Happy Camp for equipment, before you go any further. Then Montine can give you my info if you are interested.
Beammaker-----Wyoming

  
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Re: Coming from Florida to Prospect for the summer ( 02:46:10 FriMar 29 2013 )

Sounds awesome Grasshopper...wish you the best of luck and nugs...never give up...keep the dream alive:doublethumbsup:

  

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