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Heavens_to_Betsy
14:24:13 Fri
May 14 2004

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problematic dog!!

Have 6 year old boxer (male) He has epileptic fits every 21 days(ish). Can cope with that bit, but over the last year or so he has taken to peeing and pooing in the house during the night. Doesnt do this every night and doesnt seem repentent at all!!!! Nothing unusual on the nights he does it and hes walked last thing at night.

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jacquie
08:34:13 Sun
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Have you been to your vet about it?

We had an old dog (13) He lost controll of his bladder at night sometimes. We got a thing that they mostly give to females. It's a female hormone in tablet form which tightens the bladder. I'm wracking my brain but cant remember what it was called. Ayway it worked! Dont know if it would help his pooing problem though.
It may be an idea to play around with his feeding times, see if you can change his bowel opening times. It may work.
Let us know how you get on. Good luck

  
Heavens_to_Betsy
13:33:56 Sun
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Yep, sure have. He puts it down to having a white boxer!!!! Vet did give some kind of paste to put in his food to "firm everything up" - unfortunately this had absolutely no effect. Vet thinks i have a dog with "Special needs" Jake is a rescue dog who has been badly treated, and tends to get upset particularly by strange men (vets dont come much stranger!). Have a nice big dog flap for him but the clattering noise freaks him out. the dog not the vet.:wink:

  
jacquie
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That attitude makes me sooo angry. He's white so he has special needs. Try changeing your vet. A second oppinion would'nt go wrong. Phone arround and ask if they are familiar with boxers. Tell them about the hormone I told you about and see what they say. Let me know how you get on. Where about are you? I may be able to help with a vet



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Heavens_to_Betsy
10:19:16 Sat
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i think my vet was just being "funny" - usually hes very good and will give most things a try. We live in Carlisle so if you do know of anyone locally who understands the joy of white boxer ownership i would be glad to contact them.

  
Polo123
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We got Polo from Huttonvale Boxers Kendal which isn't too far from Carlisle. You could maybe try contacting Angela there, she loves all boxers & may be able to help you out with someone local :smile:
I've just been on the photo gallery on their site & I'm sure that's Polo on the left of the photo titled 'Who says white is not beautiful' - I'll have to e-mail her & find out! :wowsmilie:

Linda

  
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We were right, it is Polo on that photo :wowsmilie: I'll have to save that pic as that was 9 days before we got him! Just heard that a new litter is imminent - boxer babies are sooooo cute :loveya:

Linda

  
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15:52:55 Tue
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Our boxer Bonnie had the peeing problem and the vet has put her on propaline i think its the one Jacquie has said about it has dried her weeing up completely but i think its only used when they have no bladder control at all she would just lie there and would then pee by accident and was very forlorn after.:ohwell:

  
jacquie
17:37:35 Tue
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Thats the one! It was used on our dog shane, normally given to females but they decided to give it a try. He had bladder controll but dribbled sometimes before going out. It worked a treat for hom. I'm just glad the vet decided to give it a go. He used to get so upset!



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Heavens to Bets
21:59:21 Fri
Jun 25 2004

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Appear to have solved the problem by chaining the dog flap open. Even when post fit manages to get himself outside. Not sure what we are going to do in the winter when there is a force 10 gale blowing through the house!

Any ideas how to train an exceedingly nervous dog how to push a dog flap open? It doesnt occur to him that you can get through it when the flap is down, and when you show him it makes an almighty clatter which scares him witless.

  
Polo123
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I'm glad it's not just Polo who's soft - he's reluctant to push open a normal door - he would absolutely freak at a flap, especially as you say the clattering. Maybe you could try holding it gradually further shut (if that makes sense:ohwell:smile: holding a tasty treat at the other side as an incentive. Good luck :smile:

Linda.

  
jacquie
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Weve been having a new kitchen fitted so ofcourse I HAD to get a bucket to match:spinsmile: Ive now got a stainless steel cooker so I needed a stainless steel bucket. Blue is petrified of it:bolt: he creeps past, then runs out the back! It's so funny to watch. Last night as he was doing his creeping thing Derek shouted boo. He nearly died:smash6:



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Heavens to Bets
13:45:00 Thu
Jul 1 2004

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Jakes a rescue dog who has numerous problems courtesy of his last owners, so you only have to look at him the wrong way and hes past himself!! New furniture he can cope with its just the delivery men who totally freak him out. He copes with it by sitting a safe distance and growling - unfortunately he blows it by running and hiding behind my legs if they make any kind of move!!:bolt:

  
SashasMum
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My last boxer Katie had epilepsy but not as bad as yours! She fitted about every six months, but we did find that we would trigger a fit if her routine was disturbed. She would get very upset if anything out of the ordinary happened eg moving furniture etc and would fit that evening normally. We didnt put her on any medication for it, but was was on propaline after she was spayed at the age of four as this caused incontinence!

By the time she died at the age of 12 she was on medication for senile dementia, was deaf and totally incontinent. The epilepsy was the least of her problems and was never a factor in her age related problems! I hope that brings you comfort!

Karen :smile:

  
Heavens to Bets
14:31:46 Thu
Jul 15 2004

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It makes Jakes problems seem a bit trivial. Mind you if he doesn't stop yipping at the cat he'll have bigger things to worry about!!!

As yet we havent figured out any triggers for his fits, thankfully he always manages to have his fits either just before he goes to my mums on his holidays or just after he gets home!

I cant imagine a boxer with senile dementia - how would you tell? Jakes already pretty off the wall so i dont think we would notice!:smash6:

  
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From experience I would say that you have already identified Jakes triggers! If he fits just before he goes to your Mums or when he gets back, I would say him going away is the trigger? Going to someone elses house - no matter how often he goes there - would cause him some worry etc. Even though he is quite happy when he gets there, boxers are creatures of habits and anything to upset their daily routine and whats where etc, could worry them.

Is there someway you can disguise the fact he is going away until the last minute? You may still have him fitting when he gets back, but at least it would be one less!

As for senile dementia in boxers - I was amazed they could diagnose it! She was loopy from birth! Basically though she started exhibiting strange & new behaviour patterns, like trying to bury her dinner in the lino when she didnt want it! If you can imagine an eldery person who was lost and confused and didnt understand what was going on around them - that was Katie! It was very sad really.

Hope the epilepsy advice helps
Karen :wave:

  
Heavens to Bets
11:47:01 Sat
Jul 17 2004

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Unfortunatley he fits when he isnt going anywhere and were having a normal boring old type of day. He's just a strange kind of dog. The good news is that at the moment while he still fits over 2-3 days hes only having one a day. Even then he quickly forgets about them and gets on with having a good time annoying the cat!:roundnround:

  
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homer will poo on the floor even infront of me if he has got a cob on he used to sleep on the end of my bed but when my partner moved in homer go moved to out side the bedroom door as Homer snores really loud
every night hr would poo on the stairs and when i got a cat he did it right in front of me
he hasnt done it since we got Dee though
attention seeker or what



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katie_rosie
00:14:26 Sat
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Hi
When we got Rosie a raised feeder, she was petrified to eat from it as the metal bowl made a metal clang against the metal frame. No way would she even go near to it even after a few days. At one stage we thought we would have to foget it. Then I hit on the idea of wrapping clingfilm around the frame where the bowl sits in. Once the cling film was wrapped round and bowl in place - no noise.

Could you maybe do something similar with the framework of the door to stop the flap clanging against it? can you still get the sealant that you used to get to put round doors and windows to stop draughts coming in?

You just need something to deaden the noise of the flap. Or maybe some kind of rubber tube slit and fitted on the edges of the flap?




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Great idea about muffling the sound of the flap Helen.
Then maybe close the door between you and play "peek-a-boo". Boxers do so respond to games.
In my time reading this site, there have been at least 6 instances mentioned of dogs messing at night, depending on whether they slept alone or not. Often results were seen overnight. Being alone is not favoured by Boxers, they need direction, leadership, company, to be part of the pack. And that's you!

  
Jakes_mum
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Unfortunately the problem no longer exists as jake died at Easter. The only way we could get around his problem was to keep the dog flap chained open and suffer the artic conditions in winter! Strangely enough he didnt do it when he stayed at my mums (think thats because he got to sleep upstairs on the bed). New baby Heskey is really good, he wont even "go" in the yard,just sits crossed legged until we take him out.

Liz

  

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