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jackinabox
00:26:02 Mon
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Does anyone have a boxer that wrecks when left alone?
He also pulls hard on his lead and wont come back when let off lead. He is 10 months old.

We asked a personal trainer who said all boxers were like that and advised we got something else like a retriever as they were easier to handle. He didnt seem to have much time for boxers:sad:

We told him if we had wanted a retriever we would have got one - we didnt mean to be rude but we love jack very much. Is there a list of good trainers anywhere that have experience in boxers?

thank you for your help.

jacks mum + dad

  
SashasMum
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Stuff and nonsense and good for you for sticking up for wanting a boxer!!

Yes boxers can destroy things but thats not "what all boxers are like"!!

It sounds as if poor Jack is suffering from severe separation anxiety and by destroying the house, he is getting your attention and trying to tell you that he isnt happy!

He needs to know that he is safe, and basically that involves building up the length of time he is left alone, starting with 3 mins max! Is there anyway you can spend some continuous time with him - without leaving him alone and then building up the time slowly?

Another trick is to take an old item of clothing, either wear it to bed or stick it under your pillow, and then leave it in his bed when you go out.

There are a couple of babies on this site who have suffered seperation anxiety and there are people who are more qualified than me to give advice, but they will all say one thing .................. hang in there, be consistent and most of all, be patient!! He is still very young and you have plenty of time to get him sorted. Unfortunately boxers really are people dogs and do love to have their family around them as much as possible.

Good luck!!




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SashasMum
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Sorry I forgot to say, my 2 year old girl used to run away when I first got her (I rescued her at 5 months). With patience and training, she now comes back when called - every time!

Its a confidence thing, boxers respond well to love and fuss and DONT respond to shouting or punishment.

What area are you from? We are spread all over the country in here, from north east Scotland to Ireland! I am sure someone will be able to recommend a trainer near you - but I wouldnt bother going back to this chap, he doesnt sound very professional to me!! Yes boxers are harder work, but they are THE best breed of dogs you can get and a happy, well trained boxer will give you a level of love and committment which is not found in any other breed!!

Canine Communication is a very good website to give you an insight into how dogs think and behave.



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Jakes_mum
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Ha, i know someone with retrievers and very little house left!!!!! try getting your wee one use to being left by putting the radio as well when you leave him. You can also get toys that you stuff with food which keeps them occupied for ages. Hesky pulled like a trooper when we got him, but i got one of those Halti-harnesses which works a treat and is less restrictive than the face harness that they do. He still pulls like a real one if just on the lead. Another thing is to get your dog to come back by giving him a treat when he does return so he associates it with good things (bribery and corruption works wonders) Had a lurcher who use to run around in rings and wouldnt come back, but the biscuit treat worked wonders.

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jacquie
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How long have you had your dog? Is it recent?


I would advise all of the above. Keep the house quiet while your at home, (no teenagers whith loud music LOL).

Do you have background on your dog? Its quite common to have this kind of behaviour but it can be worked through. It will take time. Were talking about months here, there are no quick fixes.
If you haven't had your dog for long. Dont involve a trainer ect at the moment. Let him feel safe first. ( a couple of months )



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gingerboy
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Hello Jacks Mum & Dad

I don't envy you at the moment as we had similair problems with our white deaf boxer as far as wrecking the house was concerned. Never had a problem with them not coming back but both our boxers went to training classes from 12 weeks old for 6 months and still keep on top of training now.

When out of the house is Jack confined to one room? and if so for how long?

Do you have a neighbour who can let him out when you are not around?

We made the mistake of keeping our 2 in the kitchen when were out and Tash who was a pup at the time wrecked it, Molly who is 12 months older has always been well behaved in the house so we could not understand what the problem was with Tash.

After much advice, a lot of trial and error and lots of patience and love Tash soon stopped wrecking things. Basically we gave them the run of the down stairs excluding the living room and bedrooms, now thats not to say we just left them for a long period straight away it was a gradual process i.e. 1st time leave them for 5 - 10 minutes and when you walk back in the house ignore Jack completely, no eye contact, talking etc. Repeat the process increasing the period of time he is left on his own but make sure as Karen mentioned that Jack has toys and a piece of clothing that has your scent on it. by the way if he attacks doors whilst out try fitting baby gates as he will be able to see that you are not in that rom and that it is pointless attacking the door and you can leave the door open but the gate shut!

Now you may be thinking "but he's our little baby how can we ignore him when we get back" - Jack needs to know that when you go out and come back he does not need to worry so the less fuss you make the less distressed he will get. I can't promise overnight results and would expect that it could take anything upto a month for him to adjust dependant on how quickly you implement the changes and whether or not you stick rigidly to the same routine every time you leave and return to your house.

If when you return home and Jack has wrecked something completely ignore him don't be tempted to tell him off or be aggressive towards him in anyway (although I'm sure you wouldn't anyway) Jack will soon learn that bad behaviour results in no interaction with his beloved parents!!

I know several of the members on the site use a bottle filled with gravel to stop bad behaviour and know it works myself. If Jack is doing something un desirable whilst you are their simply shake the bottle loudly and he will probably stop immediately, although some dogs aren't bothered by the sound so you may have to find an alternative.

Anyway the above advice is based on my own experience and several other people I know and should I hope help, if you need any more help let us know as we are a friendly bunch and only to happy to help!!

If you are in the South Wales area let me know as it would be great to know that I am not the only person in the S.Wales area who visits the site.

Don' forget hang on in their and try to implement the changes sooner rather than later but once you have stick with it, honestly it will / should work and Jack will I am sure do you proud with a little patience and lots of love.

Good luck

Paul

  
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Sorry Jacks mum and dad forgot to say welcome to the site as I see this is your first time here, It's not often people find us these day so I hope you find the site useful - I know i did and still do, some of the members have years of experience so just shout if you want more advice.

When I say years I mean years - infact I have my suspicisons as to whether some of them are vampires they've been around so long, isn't that right Jacquie ha ha ha (only joking Jacquie)!!!!!

Seriously though many of the members are a great source of advice but watch em as they also have a wicked sense of humour.

Take care, Paul

  
NickiG
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Hello and welcome!!!

Crate training is an option if you are interested? As for off lead. I don't have any experience in that. It is ILLEGAL to have a dog off lead around here. I have never been anywhere with our Eddie off lead. I am to paranoid anyway. I would always be afraid that a cat or something would be to tempting and Eddie would take off. I would rather use the lead and be save than take the chance.
Eddie was a big puller when he was younger, we used the "Gentle Leader", there is one called a "Halti". Then we switched to a harness. All of these usually work really well.

Godo luck and I hope that we can help!



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Agree with you their Nick - we used Haltis on Molly and Tash for a while and they work really well.

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Hi

We used the halti for walking bella, without it I coudn`t of taken her out for a walk alone. now she has a harness she still has her moments (normaly if a cat dares to show it`s face near her) but most of the time she`s fine.

Both myself and my hubby work but we still leave her lots of things to do while we`re out, a stuffed kong, she has one of those balls that when rolled around food drops out, and plenty of toys the trick is always make sure that they have plenty to do.

Boxers are the best dog you`ll ever get so stick in there.



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We use a harness on Sasha and it works a treat. She knows that when she has that on she is "street walking" as opposed to playtime and walks really well. I think because of the strength in their shoulders, it helps the less strong people (like me) control them!

At the end of the day though, its all down to personal choice and what each person finds easiest - lets face it, easiest is the way to go with these babies, they cause enough trouble as it is!! Bless em



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jacquie
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I use a Halti as well. I can walk Blue with one hand. Mind you my son decided to take him off it one day not long ago and had to put it back on as Blue was about to choke himself out!!!!!!



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Training harnesses are good too. Im in the process of transferring our 9 month old puppy onto her proper adult harness.

Never give up - they start to calm down from now on by 18 months you will notice a big difference and from then on in, you wont believe the change in him. He will become a little "gentleman" overnight.

Helen
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jilldemo
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Well Helen, it was 4 year old for Daz, yes, as if overnight he seemed to mature, but, he will always have that puppy frisk. Always "On Point" he feels he must dominate any other dog. No stranger will get between him and me. When he was about 6 months old, he chewed up a small wicker basket, whilst we were out. George held the remains up to Daz's face and ranted a little, wagging his finger. Daz knew he had done wrong. This was the first and last time Daz chewed up anything when left alone.(How lucky are we to have him)

  
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Ha Jill I was trying to be optomistic!

Our first Boxer [my first I should say] always did something until the day she died. Whether it was to get up on benches and clear out the food cupboards or throw the cushions off the sofa onto the floor so that she could lie stretched out in comfort.

Nope, she wasnt naughty, she was expressive and very clever to think these things up in the first place.

See, live with Boxers long enougn and you begin to think Boxer and know everything they do is deeply thought out and intelligent [says she with tongue in cheek:newtonguesmile:] :spinsmile:

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