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twisted1
18:45:02 Thu
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rotory baja bug?

i am a new member so any help is very much app.

  
twisted1
19:06:50 Thu
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Re: rotory baja bug?

sorry about not quite used to this but anyways i am interrest in doing a baja bug with raised susp. but i am not wanting to do a vw motor and i stumbled across your web site that blew my mind. i have access to pretty much any fabracation tools i think i will need. i have never owned a bug but always liked them minus the motor part, i plan on looking for a junker rx7 and a bug with no motor but everything else to cut down on cost. my question to who ever is: if you wernt really strapped for cash what motor would you put in 12a or 13b or ? also is the a tranny from a certin other vw that will bolt up that is stronger than a stock bug ie:a van or what ever. i am planning on using this on the street (very little) as well as the dirt and sand but not as a daily driver. and since it is going to be a baja i will be gutting the interior and caging it so i will probably be cutting the body also. any help is appreacited:

  
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i also would like to run fuel injection i have a friend that is a wiz with wiring that could help me with that

  
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if you want to go with fuel injection, get an 86+ 13b. These came with fuel injection from the factory and have more torque than the 12a (by the way, all 12a's here in the states are carbed).

With the baja, I would go with a late (70's) bus transmission. you should be able to find these pretty easily at the junk yards. they handle more abuse than the bug trannys in stock form.

when looking for a bug to purchase, you will find that the 65 and older bugs will have better front suspension (king and link pin) than 66 and later. There are more parts available to make this front suspension an awesome off-roader (plus you can get a lot more travel).
Stay away from superbeetles, they have an entirely different front suspension that is not good for offroading.

BUT....the 69 and later bugs have a better rear suspension, which is a true IRS instead of a swing axle. You can get way more suspension travel out of an IRS car than you can with a swing axle car. Good news is that you can convert a swing axle car to an IRS car fairly easily (just buy the brakets). Oh yea, the late bus trannys will only work with the IRS equipped car.

Confused?....:confusedgreen:

I would get a 65 or older, weld on the IRS brackets, bolt on the IRS suspension, throw a late bus tranny and a fuel injected 13b (86+) and have fun.



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thank you very much i for got to add that i am planning on doing a wider beam and 3x6 arm in the rear but you have answered my question nicely.

P.S. this web site kicks ass i am telling everyone i know about it after i do my baja of course

  
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22:08:12 Thu
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so if i was to do a 65 or older and change the rear to irs the bus tranny will work ?

  
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22:51:33 Thu
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yup, you just need to buy the "bus into bug" tranny mount kit. Don't worry, its cheap.



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twisted1
17:58:36 Wed
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Re: rotory baja bug?

i have been to your web site thats how i found this one, yours was very helpful thank you. ok i found a 85 rx7 the guy wants $100 for the whole car its stick so i will need to buy counter weights he said it runs but needs carb work is there any thing i should look for as far as bad sign of wear of the motor. i am also buying a baja bug this weekend i am tring to but one complete so that way i have all the parts i need, but if i find one with out a motor i will probably go for that one to cut down on cost. also is there a place that makes exaust systems for this conversion or is it all custom fabed.

  
zenjoe
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do a compression check, make sure that the compression is good on all 6 combustion chambers. just hook up a compression guage up to a spark plug hole and check to see if the compression is even (it will bounce just make sure that when it bounces it reaches the same point)

I would ditch the carb and put an aftermarket carb on there. If you look at the motor you will see that the stock carb is like half the engine. just pull the carb/intake/rats nest off and throw on a sidedraft or something like that and you will be ready to roll. I would also recommend doing the atf treatment to the engine. go here for instructions on how to do that http://www.mazspeed.com look under the facts section I think.



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Use Marvel Mystery Oil instead. ATF isn't very good.

  
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will a super beetle tranny work in a bug? i got a 73 for like 20 bucks the guy said its the same but i dont know

  
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should work fine, there are basically only 2 transmissions, swing and irs, the super has the irs.



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when i do an after market intake and carb what happens to the oil metering pump? the motor i got is a 84 12a i read the i can put a oil filter mount from a 83 and older on to get rid of the water cooled oil cooler is this true? how much older? will any other years work? on the coolant lines that come out of the side do i cap one off since i wont be using the one that went to the oil cooler?:bricks: any help is greatly app.

  
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for the oil cooler/filter, toss the one you have, and use a 79-83 rx-7 oil filter housing. thats what I did on my 85 engine.

to put an after market intake setup on your car, you can either run the metering pump oil lines into the vacuum bung on the carb or into the floatboal. I have my Weber IDA setup to run the oil into the floatboal. this premixes the gas and I havent had a problem at all with it.

I can't remember what I did with the coolent lines on my car. I know that 2 of the lines are oil lines (those steel ones that come off the bottom of the block in the front and back of the engine) I ran those to a couple of external oil coolers. there is also a water outlet for the heater core (that larger steel outlet on the flywheel side of the block) I just pulled that out and tapped it and put a plug in it.

If I remember correctly, there are oil passages for the oil filter in your cooler thingy. these are separate from the oil cooler lines (which come out of the side of the block), which are also separate from the water lines going into that thing as well. abyways, throw that thing away because it doesn't work very well and its complicated.



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