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ratt07
08:51:42 Thu
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what drill?

just wondering what types of drills, makes & models, petrol or battery you guys are using.

  
sloper_dan
09:46:31 Thu
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hitachi or hilti are very reliable trust me i used to drill for a living, but if your goona go out and buy a drill to put holes in the rock, i would seriously consider going trad first its worth the extra money to buy some gear rather than put ugly bolts everywhere theres enough of em out there as is.

  
ratt07
10:23:05 Thu
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used to own a ryobi er160about 5 yrs ago,for bolting at nowra, but can't get then now.as for trad, not interested

  
Cragx
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Ignore dan he got lost on his way to chockstone...

I use a Dewalt 24V hammer drill...its lasted ages and still going strong.

  
wyt91t
13:22:43 Thu
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ahh sloper dan do you not clip bolts yourself cause im sure every time we have gone climbing ive never seen you on any trad route. the closest to trad ive seen you do is that dam cliffs climb where you put the sling over the horn.


is macca rubbing off on you

  
wyt91t
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shit i shouldnt talk ive just gone ahead and organised a day of tradding at piddo on anzac day you and brendon are more than welcome to tag along.

just dont forget the trad gear.

  
petey_w
21:19:44 Thu
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Don't buy a cheap one. I did recently and it just doesnt have the battery life (and I havent even taken it to the cliff). Have been keeping an eye on gray's online auctions ever since Lofty and I passed up a petrol hammer drill for $205 about a year or so ago. Bought some no name thing - 24V Hammer Drill - for $65 plus commision plus postage which ended up being ~$90 which I thought was worth a shot (and probably about as much as I was willing to spend). But (based on the experience with rocks in my front yard) Im thinking I would be lucky to get 2-4 bolt holes out of both batteries! Currently thinking about getting a few motocycle batteries to salvage the drill but that could be good money after bad so to speak (and its probably not that good for the drill).

  
hatman
21:33:47 Thu
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The GO is the 24v Dyna Drill by ramset.

It is in truth a Bosch drill re-branded as ramset. I bought it second hand and it had seen better days however it now has done loads of holes at work and for rings and I am very impressed, treats sandstone like butter.

I bought a generic third party 3 amp hour battery and have yet to have it go flat while bolting. The most bolts I have done with it is 8 U bolts and 6 rings on the one bat and it could have done more.

whatever you do don't buy a cheapy, it will not have any guts and no SDS chuck. SDS is the only way to go imo.

I have also used hilti, good but more expensive. I have seen my drill new for just over 1K with 2X1.5ah bats, I got it second hand for $420 and shelled out 200 for a 3ah bat.

BUY GOOD BITS!!!!


  
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BTW see my avatar to the left for image of my drill!!

The dyna drill is basically the bosch drill that gets advertised in the yank climbing mags sometimes. There are even routes named after the bosh drills at my local crags!

  
shawkshaw
02:05:45 Fri
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the bosch gbh24volt is great.

4 of us have one each (10 batteries as well) and they are great. I have been getting at least 12 bolts (I havn't actually yet drained one) out of the batteries in sandstone. they are light and there are sweet deals going around gor $830ish with three batteries.

good value if you ask me.

  
sloper_dan
02:46:53 Fri
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im keen but i wanna get out without brendan for once, i got a little trad gear, but yeah your right i do mostly hop on sport routes or boulder problems but i just think that bolting should be minimised, cos if there wasnt so many bolts i might climb trad more often lol.

  
ratt07
07:54:24 Fri
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when you say 12 bolts, do you mean from each battery?

  
shawkshaw
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yeah sorry at least 12 bolts per battery. As i said ive not actually drained one and have used it to place 12 bolts and it was still going strong when finished.

  
foxmanatwork
03:46:21 Sun
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I drained mine. There again i am used to drilling through 1/63" sheet aluminium!

Bosch is the way forward!

  
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Bosch is Best, mine has been going strong for years now, and with rest of the gang all using the same batteries you never have a flat day at the new crag..

  
sloper_dan
22:37:36 Sun
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friggin hell, is there anyone on this forum that doesnt go out bolting the rock.

  
Cragx
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Nope, its actually a criteria for joining this forum....so how the hell did you slip by our tough filters?????....Hes a chockstone spy!!!...get him....bloody Mexicans.
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oldandbroken
03:26:18 Mon
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I reckon. Some self confessed boulderer, the only reason you don't bolt and dog routes is because you are to bloody lazy to. Climbing is an exploritory activity and bolts aid our explorations. "i would seriously consider going trad first its worth the extra money to buy some gear rather than put ugly bolts everywhere theres enough of em out there as is" , where do i start? rock looks better with bolts in it? do you think bolts are free and the bolters do this as a cheap way out? you don't or haven't climbed much because there are never enough routes out there or maybe you have a small brain and no imagination and don't enjoy that every route is different and each route good or bad is another route that defines all others.

  
oldandbroken
03:30:09 Mon
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Another thing I have in partnership a petrl Ryobi. It must be 15 years old. Its been lent out used abused, lost found and tuned a few times and still goes strong...but.. i hear panasonic, though expensive are very light and have grunt..anecdotal

  
ratt07
04:23:46 Mon
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hows it going dude.i didn't bother responding to sloper dan, to lazy. but it needed to be said

  
oldandbroken
04:28:19 Mon
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Its going good mate. You did some work with that fine Ryobi and Gmans still got it humming. How you?

  
ratt07
04:34:43 Mon
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been good mate. just making a comeback after a 5 or 6 yr layoff. bolted a new route on saturday down nowra way, with hill, used his ryobi, should be about 22/24?.

  
oldandbroken
04:40:41 Mon
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have to catch up soon. too long. does hill still have his original drill you know? them drills are a beast but they love you long time. 8a.nu has a pic of dani andra outside his santa linya cave doing the front lateral test of strength with one. away this weekend talk about catching up soon though

  
ratt07
04:48:32 Mon
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yeah hill still got his trusty old stead. still look like new after about a 1000 bolts. will sort something out about catching up, have a few ales,medicinal purpose only, & bullshit about the old days.

  
sloper_dan
07:22:38 Mon
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lol lazy is definately right, but ive been around the scene since 99 so i know my shit enough to say that we dont need amatuer bolters out there screwing up the rock who think they know what they r on about, when they dont know jack. Fair enough there are plenty of climbs around and there might be room for alot more but that's not to say that everyone with the money and no brains should go out and buy a drill to bolt up a new route. I really hope you guys know what your doin cos i dont wanna be out there one day taking a ground fall cos someone didnt put a bolt in correctly.

  

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