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Krago 14:31:56 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 1718 posts
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So, since traits are gone and if I want my Imperial Fists to be Imperial Fists, I'll need to take Lysander to get whatever special traits/rules are associated with the Imperial Fists, correct?
Cool by me, and I'm loving the new Scout transport, may have to paint up the remaining 40 scouts. Also, what is a Conversion Beam? Cheers, Sean.
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Bourgui 14:35:11 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 704 posts
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Marty, why do you think that the marine horde will be nerfed? If anything they'll be better since they'll all have 2 attacks in CC.
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Dead 14:43:23 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 4330 posts
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if they stay the same points they are going to be really powerful. same as a chaos marine but with that no fear thing
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Krago 14:48:15 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 1718 posts
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Never mind, Conversion Beamer [1530 clicks]
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ebiniser 16:58:50 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 847 posts  Reply |
I don't think marines are going to have 2 attacks in CC. The rumours say they will have grenades and bolt pistols only. Chaos marines get 2 attacks because they have those AND the ccw. Maybe the nerf refers to the likely points cost increase on weapons and upgrades like the DA and BA got. It leaves less bodies on the table.
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gahris 21:21:18 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 370 posts Reply |
some weapons get cheaper, some get more points
plasma cannons, meltamelta's seem to go down in cost lascannons go up |
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Matt_Varnish 23:16:04 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 2505 posts GM7 - 3rd Place 2005 GT best painted 2006 40k 12th place The Flesh Wash Adept  Reply |
The new rules come out in july, but the new battle for Black Reach box set (with orks vs marines) comes out in sept-oct time frame, so thats why Oct for the codex.. Rumor has it that the box set WILL NOT have the full rules in miniature form, but im a hardcover kinda guy anyway.
Theres pictures of the new drop pod, i even linked to it on DS last week, so thats not rumorish anymore. Marty: Thanks for looking into that for me anyways.. Ill take anything you have left, what I can do is put em on the front 5 of ten guys. It would be no problem if I had regular marines, since theres billions of holsters, but for RTBs its a little more bleak. I kinda want to know why everyone is raving over the new land raider with the high ap flamers... they arent defensive weapons so...... I think if you arent playing Salamanders, you'd be better off in a crusader, because the Hurricane Bolters ARE defensive  |
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GreatHenshini 23:31:58 Thu May 22 2008 Offline 2707 posts
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The last time I used my Land Raider, I found it very effective. I moved at top speed first turn and popped smoke, then 6" and the contents assaulted. It then sat there in his lines for 2 turns until it popped, laying fire in whichever direction I wanted. That is how it should be used, line breaker.
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Joyous_Oblivion 03:54:27 Fri May 23 2008 Offline 5881 posts
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Aye the Crusader is a scary Mofo tank, great linebreaker...
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LostKnight 09:07:42 Sat May 24 2008 Offline 480 posts
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crusader tank will always be used as line breaker tough i wonder what role the new redeemer will be. Packing flamer on a land raider might seem cool, but as mr Matt said, since they are not defensive, you might be better off using marines in rhino.
Tough if sisters get acces to this raider I would be very happy. (More flamer to joy the burning woot)
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ebiniser 11:34:29 Sat May 24 2008 Offline 847 posts Reply |
The best use of the Redeemer that I can think of is to drive it up to the enemy lines like a crusader, drop off the unit inside and then have it sit there flaming anything in range. Otherwise it is odd having flame weapons you can't move and shoot. Yeah, I know I didn't think too hard
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Zphindar 13:17:07 Sat May 24 2008 Offline 2189 posts
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Actually you can move and shoot one of them, then have the machine spirit shoot the other... no need for BS rolls, so this seems like a good thing.
Ok you wont be able to shoot the assault cannon, but then again after shooting 2 str 6 ap3 templates straight into the ranks of the the enemy, who cares.
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GreatHenshini 14:01:44 Sat May 24 2008 Offline 2707 posts
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You can't shoot them both because the 2 templates can't hit the same unit, unless you're surrounded.
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ebiniser 16:25:12 Sat May 24 2008 Offline 847 posts Reply |
Unless they've given it a special rule to split fire? (pardon the pun)
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The_Yaoitzer 18:02:48 Sat May 24 2008 Offline 616 posts  Reply |
can't machine spirit shoot a different target?
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