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Tyranus_Dominus
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Seem like GW is taking a turn for power armies now with marine getting a pretty good boost and now guards have some really freitning rumors.

I am concern that all other codex prior to this will have balancing issues with the newer one's but then again this is only 1 codex and 1 set of rumors so I really hope I am just being paranoid.
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at least with the marines, Yes there is a crap ton of cool options, but they are points heavy, and NOT TROOPS, and in 5th, that is a huge thing..

For example, I played with Kantor, 10 sternguard in a drop pod this weekend vs eldar. While, yes, I annihilated the guardian squad that was concealed with a farseer (no cover ammo) Im sure that unit did not cost the 480 points mine did. It got pasted next turn, and kantor was dead. So yeah, very effective, but it was 1/3 of my army. Luckily, I still won because of my rhinos living (KP mission) but in 4th I would have lost that game.

So again, once guard get all the cool tanks, it will STILL be tough to get scoring units on the enemy objective, since your best scoring units are what? stormtroopers? not exactly gripping your enemy in fear. Time will tell.



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Twinlinked
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As long as the points work i don't see a problem

i would like to see more guard players, i've never played them in a tournament and only a couple times overall

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Guard are good in tournaments, about to get a whole lot better now.

I very much doubt we will see points costs for Leman Russes go up too much. As they are now, you couldn't outfit and use 9 in a game and still have the rest of the army (ok maybe you could but it would be terrible).

I really hope they don't charge as many point for sponsons as Marines and Chaos have to pay, that would be unfortunate, and also their plasma gun stay 10pts, but GW will likely raise that stupidly too...

I think the 4pt guardsmen rumour is for Conscript+1 guardsmen, not the regular troops, which will likely be closer to current rules.

Hell, if anything Guard can be relegated to Apocalypse games from now on, they do large scale war oh so well :smile:

  
Twinlinked
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i did hear a rumour a while back about cheap conscripts, that woul dbe good to give your entire army a cover save, kinda like grots i guess

that was a while ago tho

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Blast the last army my tin men could normally beat is gonna be full of AV 14 ap3 template makers, those last 30 or so warriors are never gonna get painted :sad:
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Looks like I'll have something new to play around with, while I patiently wait for my BA to be update...




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Twinlinked
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didn't the blood angles just get updated?

  
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If you notice the Forgeworld Errata sheet for Chimeras, you see new points costs and weapons options, that HOPEFULLY transfer over to the new IG codex. Its on Bell of Lost Souls.



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Quote: Twinlinked at 17:28:24 Wed Nov 5 2008

didn't the blood angles just get updated?


Pardon me as I digress for one short moment.

WARNING: Rant Ahead
Hey, everyone... IT'S "BLOOD ANGELS... NOT ANGLES!!!

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Ok. That's off my chest. Carry on.



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Not even sure if I ever saw anyone else spelle it 'angles'...

Just need a good flame Corey?

  
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You must be new to the internet because I see it spelled as "angles" all the time. Hence the rant.

It's not a big thing, though. It was meant more for humor than frustration. I don't want to turn Deep Space into one of those places where someone gets jumped on with both feet every time they misspell something.



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Twinlinked
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thats cool,

i believe you are most definately correct

perhaps if i ever start a new marine chapter i will call them Blood Angles.

They will be painted white with red angles painted all over them

some acute angles, some obtuse, some right.

maybe that is how i will differentiate between squads..

Anyhow

keeping with the rumour theme,

i heard that they were not going to be releasing any more subcodexs for marines IE no blood ANGELS or Space wolves.

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WARNING: Rant Ahead
Yes the pdf was updated... but I'm patiently waiting for a real codex to be published, one that contains at least some of the newer stuff that is available, as well as the new common rules (like combat tactics). You would think that a chapter that has existed since the pre-heresy era, a chapter that prides its' self on its armory would have access to the Redeemer and Thunderfire Cannons.  


If the "no more sub codecy" rumor were true, I'm sure we would have seen SW, DA and BA published in the Marine codex as all of the characters were in the Chaos codex.

I am however looking forward to new Guard rules/models...



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Twinlinked
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yeah thats what i figured too

but i heard they were going to be releasing a set of additiona characters that work with the new SM codex that will allow you to play as DA BA SW and BT, or some combination of those.

It would mean fewer codi (i made up a plural of codex) which would make it easier to update the marines in the future, if done well it could be good.

I'm not convinced, but i guess their is potential. Means they could get on to other races faster. Also the space wolves need a huge update i just learned that the SM codex that you are supposed to use with them is from two editions ago.

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