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Quote: DUBB at 09:07:19 Mon Sep 5 2011

Although this is a new pic, mine has been around awhile, I had the v2 board, already, so I didn't have to do anything but drop the v3 board in. But lead by example, here's mine.


where did you found this? this is just so amazing..
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I am amazed with that... i appreciate every discussion in this forum... makes me learn a lot of things..
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[quote=Sergey_new_pcb at [unixtime]1316319975[/unixtime]]Greetings Dubb and all.

Please understand I'm not trying to hide any information but your question is not that easy to answer. First of all, I appreciate your idea and initiative to re-design it to 2000 RPM. You gave the board a good kick and many people should be grateful to you for this. I never accumulated and analysed any statistical data on the boards sales. Of course I noticed some obvious demand deviations -- people tend to spend money before Christmas, for example. But there are some "misterious" peculiarities in customers' activity -- it's a riddle for me, both Russians and Western people are subject to some moon phase, Sun spots or something else's influence. I first noticed it when I established my first Russian web-site in 2003. There are periods when people are not active at all and you can't tell why and vice-versa. For example, I had many orders in June, both, from Russia and North America. Three weeks of August were dead on both continents. The last August week and September are different again -- lots of e-mails every day. I'm sure you were asking if going to 2000 RPM gave the board more popularity but, again, it's a matter of something misterious in human nature. Anyway, I do appreciate your understanding and assistance. You actually help me to survive in modern Russia, a country which is not so easy to live in. If anyone of you decides to come to Russia, I'll show you what I mean. It'll be like watching last days of Maya civilisation. Believe it or not, USSR used to be the most progressive state in the world for half a century but modern Russia is going back to Dark Ages. If you decide to take a look at it, please grab Mr. Green Dots and bring him along with you -- he's a great person and I talked to him about it many times. Some things I told him about are so hard to believe so the only way to make sure it wasn't my paranoidal fantasy is to come and see everything with your

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Economic markets are very hard to gauge, I understand that. And you are right about the moon, my own mother was a police dispatcher, and any of them, or even the police themselves will tell you that nights of a full moon are their busiest. Nobody knows why, but it's true about the moon doing that for some reason. I watched some movie about an American tourist in Russia, and there was a scene where they passed a huge, abandoned apartment complex, and he asked the driver about it and the driver says "Soviets". he then asks, "what happened?" and the driver replied "Glastnost" (hope I spelled that right). It's too bad, what most Americans can't understand is that democracy and capitolism simply doesn't work for everyone, everywhere else. Even the Romans couldn't sustain it.



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Thanks. Mysterious.

  
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Your English is good. "Mysterious" Your efferts are much appreciated selling and shipping your board. Im sure all of us here will do what we can when/ if you have the need-Rad

  
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Greetings Dubb and all.

Please understand I'm not trying to hide any information but your question is not that easy to answer. First of all, I appreciate your idea and initiative to re-design it to 2000 RPM. You gave the board a good kick and many people should be grateful to you for this. I never accumulated and analysed any statistical data on the boards sales. Of course I noticed some obvious demand deviations -- people tend to spend money before Christmas, for example. But there are some "misterious" peculiarities in customers' activity -- it's a riddle for me, both Russians and Western people are subject to some moon phase, Sun spots or something else's influence. I first noticed it when I established my first Russian web-site in 2003. There are periods when people are not active at all and you can't tell why and vice-versa. For example, I had many orders in June, both, from Russia and North America. Three weeks of August were dead on both continents. The last August week and September are different again -- lots of e-mails every day. I'm sure you were asking if going to 2000 RPM gave the board more popularity but, again, it's a matter of something misterious in human nature. Anyway, I do appreciate your understanding and assistance. You actually help me to survive in modern Russia, a country which is not so easy to live in. If anyone of you decides to come to Russia, I'll show you what I mean. It'll be like watching last days of Maya civilisation. Believe it or not, USSR used to be the most progressive state in the world for half a century but modern Russia is going back to Dark Ages. If you decide to take a look at it, please grab Mr. Green Dots and bring him along with you -- he's a great person and I talked to him about it many times. Some things I told him about are so hard to believe so the only way to make sure it wasn't my paranoidal fantasy is to come and see everything with your own eyes.

  
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Sure, youtube helps a lot. Thanks Bubb, Camracer, DrozdAndConfused and all. You're a great company.


You are most certainly welcome, my friend! You will always have my support!! What a great engineer you are! ---Cam



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Just out of curiosity, do you mind if I ask how these are doing compared to the old ones? No offense, of course, if you decline to answer, business is business, and there are likely consideratations to complicate a definative determination: business can be like that, I can relate.

I'm going to get a video together, here, shortly, and it might be "tandom" with the other board you just sent out here to the desert. It will make a bitching video, I have saved 2 crt monitors, and one color television set for the event.



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Sure, youtube helps a lot. Thanks Bubb, Camracer, DrozdAndConfused and all. You're a great company.

  
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Congradulations Sergey! Your sales are doing very well!! Do you ask people outside this forum who have bought your boards where they found you?

I would be curious to know if any of my Youtube videos helped you out? ---Cam



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Sucks you never received my money order... Oh well still love the mod !



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I'm making #30 ver.3 board now. It'll travel to California in a couple of days. It's gonna look like this:



Plus some 30+ boards of previous discontinued type with DC-DC converter:



Plus some prehistoric non-Blackbird boards that looked as ugly as that:

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Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 17:03:10 Wed Sep 14 2011

Two more boards are on the way to Canada.


Nice!!

So what's the official count now Sergey???? How many lucky bastards have your ingenuity right now???? I'm too lazy to go back and count 'em up!! :smash:

The "Exclusive Club" is sure getting smaller!!! :tongue: ---Cam



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Two more boards are on the way to Canada.

  
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Yes!! Anyone new here,...... GreenDots has pushed the limits!! He is the Feet Per Second KING!! He certainly has a lot of respect from me and ALL! :tongue:

The new SB-2 2000rpm board will CERTAINLY take some time to get perfect. The Nichibo motor TBkahuna an I have been using in our prototype projects and transitioned to the Blackbird mag with DUBB's trials seems to be on the right direction. It works great in my prototype...

Voltage is key, with that right (Nichibo) motor. If you are pushing 2000 rpm, you will push 21+ volts to get it working right. DO NOT attempt this with the stock Russian dpk25-2-4-12 BB motor! It will die quick. Keep that motor under 16v! ....and that's pushing it's life.

I recommend Trustfire 18650's for batteries. Great battery life. Go external for the battery pack. DrozdandConfusued first made the "dynamite stick" battery pack which I think is great! Ya just can't stuff enough mAh life into the stock battery wells. There are some other great battery pack mods out here to try also. Drill packs are great! --Cam



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Hello 505.You need to take a look at my postings on making a drozd 6mm. It worked real well. I attached a 6mm smooth bore barrel to the 4.5 barrel and added a 175 round AK 47 style mag. It was shooting about 670fps but thee was much more for sure. I was using 6mm .20 gram tracer ammo with a tracer unit attached and every 2 or 3rd round was an explosive round.What a friggen light and sound show.It was pretty loud. Had a round exploded in the mag and that ended that for a little while.I have found a softer mid cap mag, and that should solve the problem. What I haven't tried and I will ,are 6mm steel shot. I ws just using co2 and with hpa at 1600,it would be insane.Maybe throw a tracer and exposive round in for fun. GD. PS. I had a modded valve and 23 inch barrel when I reached 1065fps.The thing was crazy loud and would sahoot through 3/4 inch plywood on single shot.I didn't try 1 inch but for sure it would shoot through.
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my setup is a 15 inch barrel with 1400 psi. some basic pot adjustments and increased voltage with an upgraded valve puts me right in the 900 area. I imagine your setup with 1600 and a 15 or 23 inch barrel would have you in the 1000-1100 fps range which is a beautiful thing. unfortunatley these bbs are so light that they zip off to the side after about 30 yards since they are moving so darn fast.

with 8 grain lead the energy is 15ft pounds :smile: - a bow is about 80 some ft pounds, most handguns deliver a couple hundred pounds per shot - 9mm is around 3-400 per shot, accurately with a little practice you could tap 2 rounds per second.

either way I have always stressed that these things are pnuematic weapons and should be treated as such. let us know if you hit the 2000 mark. 35 shots per second w lead at 15 pounds a shot... 525 ft/lbs per second... that is serious sh*t

  
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Hello Brunell 505.Some very interesting thoughts on the energy thses guns are delivering.WOW. I 've got 4 4.2 lithium rechargeables.I am charging then now. They put togther with 2 1.6 lithiums should give me 20 volts. Your info on the voltage is great news. I also have a charged 1600+psi Hpa tank.I was able to hit 1065fps with this tank with a drill pack putting out 18-20 volts.The thing about the drill pack is when freshly charged,it never fades. GD.

  
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you need more voltage, 14 wont cut it. Try Lithium ion batteries rated at 3.7 you can charge them to 4.2 and they are the same size as AA batteries. I run 18v or so and could jack it up to 20+ if neccesary. at 1400 psi its great. You are going to need higher voltage at higher psi either way due to the increased pressure from the valve that the soleniod will have to open. also, try cutting your pulse setting down. it would be interesting to see if it has any affect. (less millisecond extended leaves more time for more shots)


also I would lean towards gun preservation over performance here. If you can get 1800 I would be happy with that as opposed to potentially ruining something getting that extra 100-200 shots per minute. At 1800, increasing to 1900 is barely a 6% increase. It will probably be unnoticeable seeing as you will only be getting an extra 2-3 shots off every second in addition to the 30 shots you are already getting :smile:

30 shots per second...jesus, just think about that - at 900fps (which is where I am shooting) each bb is delivering roughly 10 ft/lbs of energy concentrated within a 4.5mm area - but the bb is rounded, so initial contact has about a 2mm diameter impact zone. This "toy" of yours has the ability to deliver nearly 300 pounds of energy to your target every second... and to think this thing is 100 percent legal to own unregistered simply because it is pneumatic... wow

  
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Getting my BB with the new board to fire strongly at 1800-2000rpm.Final the mag and board is in my BB and firing and feeding. At above 1800rpm, there is a gaint burrrr but little power. This is with 14 volts. WOULD using HPA at 1600psi help? I will try it in the coming days. Maybe the cold co2 cannot properly change from lequid to gas. Any THOUGHTS OUT THERE? I also have a much stronger motor.The very short time the valve is open may prosper with higher hpa psi. GD.

  
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I still have to say I Love your avatar Sergey. Vleydek Sheybal also was in "From Russia With Love". A GREAT James Bond classic. "Red Dawn" was a great movie also! Go, Wolverines!! ---Cam



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Thanks Dubb.

Right, the detailed explanation is in the very first message.

Sergey.

  
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Thanks for the quick response. Why does the need for the dc-dc go away? Thanks
It doesn't, but Sergey initially kept the motor voltage at 9v, like the factory intended, so he built a switching type regulator, since "buck" regulators simply waste the difference as heat, and 9v is a lot of difference (Sergey's boards can go up to 24v). But I whined for 12v, early on, 1200 wants it, and appearantly, everyone did, and he kept doing it. But to pump 2000 rpm, we need even more power to the motor, so building a switching regulator is a moot point. Sergey used a 7815, 15v buck, with a bypass circuit, in case you don't have 15v, in which case you bypass, and use all of whatever you have. So there is still a regulator, it just doesnt regulate nearly as much, so it can be simple. I love this arrangement, since I modded up the motor, with the Nichibo M24 that can handle 30v, I can violate the rule: I bypass to go over 15v, I'm giving min 5S lithiums, that peak at 21v, and I still get airshots. Anything more than 15v will toast your stock mag motor, don't do it.



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Thanks for the quick response. Why does the need for the dc-dc go away? Thanks

  
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Hey, I know I must be the typical guy asking but... How much does your board cost? Thanks, Evan Toland

Oh, and if I do get the board I will post pics of the install and finished product.

Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 09:16:48 Thu Apr 14 2011

As I don't need to make DC-DC converter any more, the new board price is reduced to USD 120.

Here's my contact info:
E-mail: e-go@inbox.ru
Skype: sergey.pismensky
Phone: +7-950-177-2500.

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Hey, I know I must be the typical guy asking but... How much does your board cost? Thanks, Evan Toland

Oh, and if I do get the board I will post pics of the install and finished product.

  
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Although this is a new pic, mine has been around awhile, I had the v2 board, already, so I didn't have to do anything but drop the v3 board in. But lead by example, here's mine.



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Pictures are a must.



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Quote: Sergey_new_pcb at 16:07:50 Sat Sep 3 2011

St. Petersburg (Russia) and Nevada.

Still waiting for your cool pictures here.

Sergey.


YEAH!! ....Me and everyone else!! Let's see those install photos folks!! :smash: ---Cam



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2010 DROZD TACTICAL ASSAULT RIFLE: 2010 regular Drozd, 23" JimC tactical rifle barrel, JimC AR stock, Leapers 3-9x32 "Bug Buster" scope, Walther tactical laser/light combo, Fab Defense T-Pod tactical foregrip, Sergey's 2000rpm custom full-auto circuit board, Prototype AR style 9500 round dual drum magazine
 
 
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Sergey_new_pcb
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Re: Drozd Blackbird "Sergey's board - 2" (9-24V, 400-2000 RPM, Full auto, 4-12 m

St. Petersburg (Russia) and Nevada.

Still waiting for your cool pictures here.

Sergey.

  
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