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new highbanking rules ? ( 16:06:12 WedOct 19 2011 )

Lot's of different conversations going on all over the net forums, I am checking to see if there are changes that affect highbanking or booming on our clubs claims.
Seems that we need permits for discharging water even into sediment ponds before the water goes back into the river ?
Hoping someone could shed some light on this as the season is getting short. maybe only one more trip for me.
rick

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 18:05:51 WedOct 19 2011 )

Rick here is the link to DFG and you can read them yourself and determine your own interpretation

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/suctiondredge/

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 00:10:04 FriOct 21 2011 )

It sounds to me as the rules concerning highbanking remain the same. My understanding is that water returning to rivers, creeks, or streams must be clear and free from sediment or mud. That's how I understand it....

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 01:51:26 FriOct 21 2011 )

ok so now we have to spend another $1200 to the regional water board now for at least one permit ? :shrug:

Dave or someone from the office want to way in on this.
I appreciate the replies, and this situation is getting even further to the preposterous side.
Jim, i would like to think nothing has changed, but if I read the other rules correctly they state specifically for high banking that a permit is needed. :confused:

Rick

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 02:17:25 TueNov 8 2011 )

I believe this sums up the answer very well:

http://www.icmj.com/article.php?id=1515&keywords=Are_Permits_Needed_For_Highbanking_In_California?

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 16:09:26 TueNov 8 2011 )

Dave, It is hard for me to believe this new regulation will stand up against the mining laws, but it seems insanity is a requirement for government officials in California. On a personal note, my heart really goes out to you. This is a devestating blow to your (our) club, and it will have a large impact upon the Happy Camp economy if the rule stands.

Even further, this will certainly send a flood of miners into southern Oregon, and of course that will lead to more restrictions and regulations here. I have dreamed and planned to purchase a dredge, but I fear the last dredging season in Oregon could be right around the corner. I had my highbanker for one summer before this new rule took affect. That makes that pretty much a waste of money since I do all my highbanking in Happy Camp. Perhaps I can find another place, but I am filled with pessimism. It would be foolish to spend a large sum on a new dredge now, knowing that it could be banned or restricted before the next season even begins. I fear the California insanity will creep into Oregon.

When everything is against the law we will all be criminals. That is a scary thought......

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 01:20:34 FriNov 11 2011 )

I must be a little dense or something, didn't folks have to pay for permits to dredge? I don't see the difference in this. It looks like the way dredging was regulated before they stopped it all together. that seems to be next.
Different part of the govt' though.
I guess some one will have to be the sacraficial lamb and get cited (maybe) and get this into court before a good straight answer is out there.
Dave, I got the messege from the link, but still pretty grey area.
maybe it is time to say to h#ll with it and dredge and highbank and let :duck: (as it were).
still lots of discussion on this.
Rick

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Re: new highbanking rules ? ( 17:08:16 SatNov 12 2011 )

I see the weekend group prospecting gatherings are still scheduled, so it appears that there is still some hope that highbanking will still be allowed.

I have had a wonderful time highbanking at the mega-hole during the last two summers, and I hope to do much more of it next summer, but a permit would make that impossible. I am sure eager to know more.......

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