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boxermad2007
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i have a young boxer not a year yet,and all of a sudden shes trashing the haouse,cushions,pillows,bins,stealing cloths and taking them into the garden,shoes,she never used to be like this and she does this when im in which is weird? never does anything when im home apart from chase the cat which i wish she wouldnt,anyone got any ideas?
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i waited for two years for visa to calm down ! she(unfortunately) still steal rubbish in the bin ! i feed her properly



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Hi
You say she does it when you are in and then say she never does it when you are at home except chase the cat. Do you mean she only does it when you are not at home?

Boxers are known to suffer from seperation anxiety.

Hre is a link for you

http://www.petlibrary.co.uk/dog-training/separation-anxiety-in-dogs-how-to-treat-it.html?Itemid=34

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I don't know if your boxer would settle down in an ex pen,but that's where I put my Chloe.Whenever I'm gone,I mean.She has her food and water bowls,her bed,and toys.I think she mostly sleeps.
Would she flip out in a pen,in the house???

  
boxermad2007
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hi no she only trashes the place when im actually home,which is what i dont understand,had boxers before that did it when i went out but never one that does it when im home and in a different room.

  
boxermad2007
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i dont like the idea of a pen my mate has her dog in one and shes a nightmare when she gets let out,and i have the joy of that next weekend when she goes on her hols for 2weeks lol should be intresting a her dog is also very distructive.

  
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Is their an area of the house that you can eep her in i.e. living room, hallway, kitchen?

We used to use a baby gate to stop the dogs coming into the living room. If you can keep her in one room / area make sure it is dog proof and see if she calms down.

How do you react when she misbehaves? Raise your voice, tell her off etc? If so, maybe she is after attention? Next time she does something wrong, tell her off firmly and put her outside or on her bed with a very firm stay command.

Then clear up whatever mess, do not talk to her or look at her.

It sounds like she possibly is seeking attention or could be bored, if you are in another room, does she have access to that room? Can she see you?

If you are busy doing something try giving her a kong or her favourite toy to play with or a puzzle ball that releases treats etc etc.

How often is she walked and how far??? What other stimulation does she have? Does she go to training classes? Do you train her on a daily basis?

Sorry for all the questions but it could be a case of under-stimulation, boredom, seperaion anxiety, attention seeking or a combination of all the above............. it's hard to tell without more information.

If it were me in your shoes I would be ensuring she had a good walk first thing in a morning, off lead if possible of approx 1 hour, the same in the evening.

Go back to basics with training, by that I mean right back to basics. Try and find a local dog training class, ask your vet if their is one near by. Ensure you do at least 15 - 30 minutes of training per day to ensure that she is up to speed and is rewarded when she does something correctly. Do not give attention or reward undesirable behaviour!

If you haven't already invest in some puzzle toys that stimulate your boxers mind. You know your self that they may appear to be clowns but are infact very intelligent dogs that need lots of stimulation and thrive on problem solving.

Don't know if that helps or not, it's the best advice I can give with the information available, if you let me know a bit more I will try and help.

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It sounds like she is after attention, Gixer used to trash the place when we were out so we bought a cage and left him in that after the sofa was destroyed. He is out of that habit now and we can leave him in the hall, landing stairs and bedroom and a couple of times he's had the whole house as we've forgotten to shut the door and since he was 2 it's been fine - I think he knows e ae coming back and he watches the door for us. However when we are at home he likes to steal things on occasion to get chased around the house and garden - it's always a sock or something from the bin - never his toys - definitiely ewwhen he thinks he's not getting any attention like when I'm doing the housework! Boxers!!



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boxermad2007
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thanks for all the advice,lilly is walked every morning and night,shes not let off the lead as she is deaf,and ive only had her since may,if hse has done something wrong she gets shut outside while i clear up and she hates that as she barks and jumps up at the pation doors.shes left the run of hall stairs landing kitchen when im out,and can let herself into the bedrooms if she wants to ,once shes back in she goes onto her bed and she has to stay there so she knows when she has done something wrong as she also trys to hide from me when i get in by unning up the stairs.depending what room im in she cant always see me but usually follwos me evey where unless i have the hoover as she attacks it.

  
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Can I ask why you do not her off lead on walks?

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Right the problem is when you come back into the room and she has messed it up? If you dont actually catch her doing something wrong she wont understand why she is being punished. Dogs live in the here and now. How long do you leave her outside? She is still very young, a puppy and their attention span at this age is a few minutes or more. She just isnt understanding why you are putting her outside. If she were mine I would show her what she had done and put her out of the room [not outside] for absolute maximum of 5 mins and then bring her back in again and act normally.

You have only had her a few months - do you know what sort of life she had before you got her? You are probably dealing with insecurity problems from her first home. I think you need to go back to basics. Leave her for a few mins and go back and if she has been good - reward her. Over days build the time up from a few mins to half an hour. If she is naughty, no treat. She sounds insecure to me. How soon did this behavious start after you got her?

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boxermad2007
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i dont let her off the lead as she is deaf,ive only had her since the end of may,im her 4th owner in the first 6mths of her life,so shes about 9mths old,her bad behaviour has started the 3 weeks,i go to work early in the morning but get back home several times during the day so its not as though shes left on her own for a long time.from what i was told when i bought her,she came from a lady in reading who gave her to her brother to sell he sold it to a couple who already had a white boxer they had her for a week before selling her to me they did tell me they thought she was deaf which is correct she cant hear a thing.

  
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If Lilly has just started doing this, I would say she is coming out of her shell a little more and testing her boundaries!

Everyone's advice is spot on and I would certainly take a lot of heed in what they say! :respect:

Try and be as firm and consistent as you can with her, and, as far as is possible, ignore the bad behaviour and give her loads of fuss when she is good.

Keeping her on the lead for the time being is probably a good idea, especially if you haven't had her that long. We say 6 weeks at our rescue, but you are always best to do it until you feel comfortable and safe with her coming back.

I would take a long line out with you and practise some recall with her. She will also get a bit more exercise that way too :thumbs:

If you are having any problems with her, perhaps you could call Sheila Dawson on 01772 690458 - tell her I told you to call her!

Other than that, try not to stress or get agitated, Lilly will pick up on it. :flowerkiss:



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boxermad2007
14:04:03 Mon
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hi sashasmum,thanks for that,i dont feel happy about her being off the lead as i livevery close to railway lines and main roads will have to look into getting a extending lead for her and see how she goes on that.

  
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hi sashasmum,thanks for that,i dont feel happy about her being off the lead as i livevery close to railway lines and main roads will have to look into getting a extending lead for her and see how she goes on that.

  
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Just to cheer you up.....look at the history of "Heskey the Terrible" - he is like a reformed character now. Just remember deep breaths and im sure it will all come right in the end.

Liz

  
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Hi Boxermad2007 - drop me a PM with your address, I have a very high quality extending lead that you can have if you like. I no longer use it and it makes sense for somebody like you to have until you are confident that your dog will recall etc.

It's a proper job, suitable for Giant breeds so don't worry it's boxer proof.

It's the one featured in this link:-

http://www.collarsandtags.co.uk/flexi-giant-graphitebr8m-tape-75kg-p-316.html

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boxermad2007
13:55:48 Tue
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will do thank you
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boxermad2007
16:02:37 Tue
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well today has been a gooday,as i work tuesday and wednesday night from 9pm til 7am i get to spend tuesday in bed,well today lilly let me seleep from from 6am til 2.15pm which is a miracle,but only because she spent most the time led on top of me or stamping on me every five mins! bless so i gave up and came down stairs and led on the sofa so did lilly right on top of me,why do boxers have bony elbows? and why do they stick them where you really dont want them?will play count the boxer burises in the morning!

  
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She sounds a typical Boxer!!

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boxermad2007
15:33:12 Wed
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today lilly went for a walk on her new lead(thanks paul) well ive never seen such a tired boxer in my life,bless she didnt no what to do with herself when we got home so tired,lol which is good for me as it means at leasti got some sleep!she spent two hours led on the kitchen floor just panting she could hardly pick her little legs up on the way back!

  
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Aww that's great. :thumbs: That should help with a lot of other things too as she will be more relaxed and calm because she is so knackered!! :banana:

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boxermad2007
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yes thats true shes got another walk tonight after ive got ready for work,i was surprised this morning as she had a little accident during the night which isnt like her at all thats the first time.

  
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Hi Sara

Glad the lead arrived safely, did you figure out the locking mechanism etc?

Glad that Lilly enjoyed her new found freedom, they are a great piece of kit to have. Certainly sounds like you both made the most of it - great stuff. Heres hoping she expels some of that energy she has.

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boxermad2007
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hi paul,yes i sussed out all the buttons,lilly loved including getting herslef wrapped round a lampost within the first 5 mins!but she was well and truly tired which was a big bonus!

  
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lilly has improved so much shes stopped being a naughty boxer and has turned into angel lol how long for i dont no,it does make me laugh though my brother was her yesterday see other post my friends dog,and for the life of him he cant tell lilly off,she gives him the soppy look tale wagging and he laughs and gives up,i have to remind him that she is deaf so wont listen to you any way lol

  
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Awh thats great news.

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That's good news - I think puppies are like children, they just need to test their boundaries every now and then, as long as you keep them right, they soon settle down again :flowers:



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