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1302Steve
11:56:46 Sun
Aug 22 2004

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Sumps

Hi

Has anyone shortened the sumps on subi motors? They are pretty low.

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redshoes
13:58:01 Mon
Aug 30 2004

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Hey Steve,

I am really new to this...just got my engine today. We are getting out kit from Sharpe built, and they have a new aluminium short sump...
I am doing mine with Jak and Paul...

Matt( boof2332)

  
FunBug
01:41:50 Fri
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What is the asking price for the oil pan, and sump from Sharpe? Kennedy Eng is charging around $200.00 USD and that is :confusedgreen:if you send them your items to shorten, and they return them to you. I'm not happy about their turn around time. One would think that they would have some pre-mades on hand? In the mean time one must sit with no pan and sump while your's is in transit and being retyro-fitted by Kennedy, when I spoke with them they wouldn't even give me an estimted turn around time? Heck it could takes weeks, or longer?????????

  
subabeetle
03:41:07 Tue
Sep 21 2004

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Hi,
If any one knows where to find the shortened sump for the subaru engine could you please post it. I have searched like scooby doo after the crew split up and have came back empty. Any reply is greatly appreciated.

Thanks all

  
snyiper
16:34:29 Tue
Sep 21 2004

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Hi, Im a gearhead at heart just kinda new at stuffing different things into a bug. Looking for alt power for a street legal sand rail. As far as a shortened pan goes what is it made from? I would suspect any welding shop could shorten one for you or am I missing something?

Glenn

  
subabeetle
21:09:47 Tue
Sep 21 2004

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Well, The first I had heard of it was here, andmade by "sharp built" along with his adation kit. As for shortening the sump I don't know if the oil that would be lost from shortening the sump would be redistributed or the engine would be fine with a little less oil.

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Roderick

  
snyiper
12:40:23 Wed
Sep 22 2004

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The sump could be lowered as well as widened on the bottom similar to what we used to do to small block Chevy's when added capacity was needed and we could not go lower.
Glenn

  
eureka
02:59:37 Thu
Sep 30 2004

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In Oz:
you could try Brad. He's making shortened sumps that hold the stock oil capacity for $440 exchange per this post
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=24449 and
http://www.customoffroad.com.au/partFull.asp?partid=30


Also Mike Sharp of Sharp Built. He was going to have alloy ones made up that were shorter than stock but the same capacity. I don't know if that eventuated.
http://www.sharpbuilt.com.au/dunebug.htm

If money is no object then go for the fully baffled alloy race version from MRT Rally. http://www.mrtrally.com.au/shop/
The product code is suwe120a , but at $1079.50 + GST I'll have to wait 'till I win the lotto!
[4 edits; Last edit by eureka at 21:10:07 Tue Nov 16 2004]

  
eureka
21:12:40 Tue
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I've spoken to Mike and he will modify the stock sump so it's 2" shorter but with the same capacity for $285.

The alloy design he was doing was for a 3" shortened sump with the same capacity, but that has now been canned because other people have had problems with bearing failure.
Not sure if he is eventually going to get an alloy 2" shortened one made up.
[1 edits; Last edit by eureka at 21:18:10 Tue Nov 2 2004]

  
bonanzace
14:01:24 Tue
Nov 16 2004

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John Edwards of Costa Mesa R&D Automotive machine shop was making a 6qt aluminum shortened pan. I can't get the pic to load but his # is(949)631-6376 it also was about $400







[3 edits; Last edit by bonanzace at 14:56:15 Tue Nov 16 2004]



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subaruboxer
21:54:53 Fri
Dec 31 2004

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There is an 2" shorter alloy sump available over here in Germany.Its a 2piece unit with original oil capacity. The price is 295 EUROS.

  
habib99
22:45:32 Fri
Dec 31 2004

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who is the supplier? and any reported problems?

  
subaruboxer
10:37:14 Sat
Jan 1 2005

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Good news they got the website done. Go to www.bugat5speed.de
It is all german but check it out, click on Angebot and click on Subaru boxer and click on Mehr....


[3 edits; Last edit by subaruboxer at 10:55:34 Sun Jan 2 2005]

  
habib99
14:32:15 Sat
Jan 1 2005

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cool -thanks ,I've tried to look at the site but cant understand a word! :smile:

Do they do a comprehensive 5gear trany fitting service too? Porsche or Berg style?

may get myself one of those sumps -just occured to me though that its a EA82T sump that I need not an EJ -do you know if they're making one for the EA82?

thanks.

  
subaruboxer
17:08:40 Sat
Jan 1 2005

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:newtonguesmile:Yes they do a 5-speed-trans conversion, its a Porsche 901 or a 914.But it is too expensive I think. If you want a 5- speed-trans go for a Porsche 915. I talked to some Porsche folks and read in Porsche websites. They all said that the 901/914 boxes are too weak and even Porsche 914 drivers installed the 915 box. And no they only got the sump for the ej- engines. But you can shorten the original sump 2" and widen it at the bottom. I did it to mine loosing only 0.7 liter oilcapacity. A friend of mine rides his bug like that for more than 4 years without any problem, even in summer.
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bocho
23:16:40 Mon
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bist du auch Hesse?! :wink:

  
subaruboxer
18:48:51 Sun
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No I am not. North-German!!

  
casedawg
06:17:22 Tue
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subaru in a 72 ghia help!!!

hey everyone, this is the first time i've posted on this site. i've been reading quite a bit about putting the subaru engines into bugs and i've seen some radical turboed ghias, but nothing about what it takes to put the engine in. i know i need the adapter kit, radiator in the front(i would like to see some pictures of radiators in ghias), piping for the water, wiring harness and ECU(how do you splice the harnesses together?), are there any suspension issues, oil cooler, what engine to use and does it need to be braced. what will i have to cut to make the engine fit. what tranny can i use for the stock subaru hp? i've seen something about the oil sump, what's up with that? these are a lot of questions, but i appreciate your help. i was looking at the rotary conversion, but motors are too hard to find here for cheap. thanks for your input.

  
vw_legacy
11:29:26 Sun
Mar 27 2005

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i just cut mine and did it all my self last week it took me about three hours to do but overall wasnt really that bad
all i did was copy outbackmotorsports design they sell theirs for like $300 heres there site www.outbackmotors.com they have a bunch of cool stuff

nick

  
balisticmotorscom
04:00:18 Fri
Apr 22 2005

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i have shortend pans instock for $175 with core. will ship within 24 hours of payment

  
Bugmeister
16:47:42 Sat
Jul 16 2005

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Where are you located ?

Also sumps for Ej25 ?

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balisticmotorscom
03:08:46 Fri
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orange ca
they are for ej20 ej22 and ej25
both JDM and American

  
72RSBug
17:30:08 Thu
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Check my thread http://bb.bbboy.net/vwengineconversions-viewthread?forum=3&thread=92&postnum=0#post5

I have the 5 cm (2") shortened sump from Bugat5speed in Germany
http://www.bugat5speed.de/cms/content/view/30/53/

The owner of the shop is German but communicates very well in English via email, took about 2 weeks from payment to arrival.

  
edddees
20:12:17 Thu
Nov 10 2005

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outback motors sells and oil pan (with excange) for $250
http://www.outbackmotors.com/oil_pans_and_fillers.htm

  
subcruiser
07:12:26 Mon
Dec 26 2005

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Last week I cut my sump and this is the result






Here the fully completed sump with cutout for the oilfilter





This sump holds 0.5 liters of oil more than the original

  

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